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Re: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P

Re: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P

2003-08-09 by beatz

I don't think the EXSP transition would be as smooth as one could hope. The main reason being that many modulation features are missing on the EXSP. Can't say exactly what will be missing, but any heavily modulated EXS pgm's will definitely sound wrong on the EXSP. Correct me if i'm wrong anyone and maybe i'll get the EXSP myself :o)

Regards

Tom
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Morrell 
  To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 11:51 PM
  Subject: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P


  Hi all, 

  I see now that an AU version of the exsp24 is available. I am a 
  recent convert to Logic from DP, but I still have clients who are 
  DP-ers (and so I have to use it from time to time). I have a rather 
  large collection of custom instruments for the exs and I'm 
  wondering if there is seamless translation from the exs to the 
  exsp. , ie are there any aspects of the playback parameters 
  (velocity, filters, key switches) which would cause variants in 
  playback between the two different versions. Just to be perfectly 
  clear: when I load a patch created in the exs into the exsp will it 
  sound and behave the same?? Thanks.

  Steve


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Re: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P

2003-08-09 by Gregory Anderson

I can't exactly correct you, because I have only the EXSP so can't compare
the two, but my understanding is that the only differences are that the EXSP
cannot create instruments from samples, and that it is multi-channel.  I
remember researching this when I first purchased it, and was told that if I
wasn't going to be creating my own instruments, then the EXSP would do
everything else just like the EXS.

If it helps any, I have uploaded a screenshot of the EXSP to the PHOTOS
section of this group so you can compare sliders, etc. with your exs.

Gregory
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From: "beatz" <beatz@...>
Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 04:05:47 +0200
To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P


I don't think the EXSP transition would be as smooth as one could hope. The
main reason being that many modulation features are missing on the EXSP.
Can't say exactly what will be missing, but any heavily modulated EXS pgm's
will definitely sound wrong on the EXSP. Correct me if i'm wrong anyone and
maybe i'll get the EXSP myself :o)

Regards

Tom
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Steve Morrell
 To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 11:51 PM
 Subject: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P


 Hi all, 

 I see now that an AU version of the exsp24 is available. I am a
 recent convert to Logic from DP, but I still have clients who are
 DP-ers (and so I have to use it from time to time). I have a rather
 large collection of custom instruments for the exs and I'm
 wondering if there is seamless translation from the exs to the
 exsp. , ie are there any aspects of the playback parameters
 (velocity, filters, key switches) which would cause variants in
 playback between the two different versions. Just to be perfectly
 clear: when I load a patch created in the exs into the exsp will it
 sound and behave the same?? Thanks.

 Steve


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Re: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P

2003-08-09 by beatz

You're probably right, but i know that you can create instruments from samples! The EXS instrument editor is available in Logic whether your EXS sampler demo has run out or not ;). All you have to do is create your instruments, via the menu (can't remember which one, probably "Audio"?). Then you play them with your player! Bear in mind however, that if you are looking for extensive modulation routing facilities, the Player lacks the sophisticated features that you will find on the EXS24II. This is why i presume complex patches will not port to the player without loss of programming. If all you need is velocity modulating volume, or filters, then you're up and running! (even though the filters sound better and present more options on the EXS24)
Personally, i would recommend the EXS24 if you're into heavy tweaking, and the player for milder modulation of pgm's. By the way, if you get the EXSP to work as a multichannel in logic, please let me know! Thanks

Regards

Tom  
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gregory Anderson 
  To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 4:20 AM
  Subject: Re: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P


  I can't exactly correct you, because I have only the EXSP so can't compare
  the two, but my understanding is that the only differences are that the EXSP
  cannot create instruments from samples, and that it is multi-channel.  I
  remember researching this when I first purchased it, and was told that if I
  wasn't going to be creating my own instruments, then the EXSP would do
  everything else just like the EXS.

  If it helps any, I have uploaded a screenshot of the EXSP to the PHOTOS
  section of this group so you can compare sliders, etc. with your exs.

  Gregory

  From: "beatz" <beatz@...>
  Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 04:05:47 +0200
  To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
  Subject: Re: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P


  I don't think the EXSP transition would be as smooth as one could hope. The
  main reason being that many modulation features are missing on the EXSP.
  Can't say exactly what will be missing, but any heavily modulated EXS pgm's
  will definitely sound wrong on the EXSP. Correct me if i'm wrong anyone and
  maybe i'll get the EXSP myself :o)

  Regards

  Tom
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Steve Morrell
  To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 11:51 PM
  Subject: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P


  Hi all, 

  I see now that an AU version of the exsp24 is available. I am a
  recent convert to Logic from DP, but I still have clients who are
  DP-ers (and so I have to use it from time to time). I have a rather
  large collection of custom instruments for the exs and I'm
  wondering if there is seamless translation from the exs to the
  exsp. , ie are there any aspects of the playback parameters
  (velocity, filters, key switches) which would cause variants in
  playback between the two different versions. Just to be perfectly
  clear: when I load a patch created in the exs into the exsp will it
  sound and behave the same?? Thanks.

  Steve


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Re: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P

2003-08-09 by Steve Morrell

Thanks guys for the input. I suppose my needs are fairly modest. 
I just need the velocity to amplitude, and keyswitching to work . 
Sounds like from what you guys are saying that I'm probably in 
business - having one (exs) library being able to be shared 
between Logic and DP-- cool!

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "beatz" <beatz@w...> wrote:
> You're probably right, but i know that you can create 
instruments from samples! The EXS instrument editor is 
available in Logic whether your EXS sampler demo has run out 
or not ;). All you have to do is create your instruments, via the 
menu (can't remember which one, probably "Audio"?). Then you 
play them with your player! Bear in mind however, that if you are 
looking for extensive modulation routing facilities, the Player 
lacks the sophisticated features that you will find on the EXS24II. 
This is why i presume complex patches will not port to the player 
without loss of programming. If all you need is velocity 
modulating volume, or filters, then you're up and running! (even 
though the filters sound better and present more options on the 
EXS24)
> Personally, i would recommend the EXS24 if you're into heavy 
tweaking, and the player for milder modulation of pgm's. By the 
way, if you get the EXSP to work as a multichannel in logic, 
please let me know! Thanks
> 
> Regards
> 
> Tom  
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Gregory Anderson 
>   To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 4:20 AM
>   Subject: Re: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P
> 
> 
>   I can't exactly correct you, because I have only the EXSP so 
can't compare
>   the two, but my understanding is that the only differences are 
that the EXSP
>   cannot create instruments from samples, and that it is 
multi-channel.  I
>   remember researching this when I first purchased it, and was 
told that if I
>   wasn't going to be creating my own instruments, then the 
EXSP would do
>   everything else just like the EXS.
> 
>   If it helps any, I have uploaded a screenshot of the EXSP to 
the PHOTOS
>   section of this group so you can compare sliders, etc. with 
your exs.
> 
>   Gregory
> 
>   From: "beatz" <beatz@w...>
>   Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
>   Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 04:05:47 +0200
>   To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
>   Subject: Re: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P
> 
> 
>   I don't think the EXSP transition would be as smooth as one 
could hope. The
>   main reason being that many modulation features are 
missing on the EXSP.
>   Can't say exactly what will be missing, but any heavily 
modulated EXS pgm's
>   will definitely sound wrong on the EXSP. Correct me if i'm 
wrong anyone and
>   maybe i'll get the EXSP myself :o)
> 
>   Regards
> 
>   Tom
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Steve Morrell
>   To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 11:51 PM
>   Subject: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P
> 
> 
>   Hi all, 
> 
>   I see now that an AU version of the exsp24 is available. I am a
>   recent convert to Logic from DP, but I still have clients who are
>   DP-ers (and so I have to use it from time to time). I have a 
rather
>   large collection of custom instruments for the exs and I'm
>   wondering if there is seamless translation from the exs to the
>   exsp. , ie are there any aspects of the playback parameters
>   (velocity, filters, key switches) which would cause variants in
>   playback between the two different versions. Just to be 
perfectly
>   clear: when I load a patch created in the exs into the exsp will 
it
>   sound and behave the same?? Thanks.
> 
>   Steve
> 
> 
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Re: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P

2003-08-09 by beatz

In that case, happy sequencing! :o)
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Morrell 
  To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 8:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P


  Thanks guys for the input. I suppose my needs are fairly modest. 
  I just need the velocity to amplitude, and keyswitching to work . 
  Sounds like from what you guys are saying that I'm probably in 
  business - having one (exs) library being able to be shared 
  between Logic and DP-- cool!

  --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, "beatz" <beatz@w...> wrote:
  > You're probably right, but i know that you can create 
  instruments from samples! The EXS instrument editor is 
  available in Logic whether your EXS sampler demo has run out 
  or not ;). All you have to do is create your instruments, via the 
  menu (can't remember which one, probably "Audio"?). Then you 
  play them with your player! Bear in mind however, that if you are 
  looking for extensive modulation routing facilities, the Player 
  lacks the sophisticated features that you will find on the EXS24II. 
  This is why i presume complex patches will not port to the player 
  without loss of programming. If all you need is velocity 
  modulating volume, or filters, then you're up and running! (even 
  though the filters sound better and present more options on the 
  EXS24)
  > Personally, i would recommend the EXS24 if you're into heavy 
  tweaking, and the player for milder modulation of pgm's. By the 
  way, if you get the EXSP to work as a multichannel in logic, 
  please let me know! Thanks
  > 
  > Regards
  > 
  > Tom  
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: Gregory Anderson 
  >   To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com 
  >   Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 4:20 AM
  >   Subject: Re: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P
  > 
  > 
  >   I can't exactly correct you, because I have only the EXSP so 
  can't compare
  >   the two, but my understanding is that the only differences are 
  that the EXSP
  >   cannot create instruments from samples, and that it is 
  multi-channel.  I
  >   remember researching this when I first purchased it, and was 
  told that if I
  >   wasn't going to be creating my own instruments, then the 
  EXSP would do
  >   everything else just like the EXS.
  > 
  >   If it helps any, I have uploaded a screenshot of the EXSP to 
  the PHOTOS
  >   section of this group so you can compare sliders, etc. with 
  your exs.
  > 
  >   Gregory
  > 
  >   From: "beatz" <beatz@w...>
  >   Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
  >   Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 04:05:47 +0200
  >   To: <exs-users@yahoogroups.com>
  >   Subject: Re: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P
  > 
  > 
  >   I don't think the EXSP transition would be as smooth as one 
  could hope. The
  >   main reason being that many modulation features are 
  missing on the EXSP.
  >   Can't say exactly what will be missing, but any heavily 
  modulated EXS pgm's
  >   will definitely sound wrong on the EXSP. Correct me if i'm 
  wrong anyone and
  >   maybe i'll get the EXSP myself :o)
  > 
  >   Regards
  > 
  >   Tom
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Steve Morrell
  >   To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com
  >   Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 11:51 PM
  >   Subject: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P
  > 
  > 
  >   Hi all, 
  > 
  >   I see now that an AU version of the exsp24 is available. I am a
  >   recent convert to Logic from DP, but I still have clients who are
  >   DP-ers (and so I have to use it from time to time). I have a 
  rather
  >   large collection of custom instruments for the exs and I'm
  >   wondering if there is seamless translation from the exs to the
  >   exsp. , ie are there any aspects of the playback parameters
  >   (velocity, filters, key switches) which would cause variants in
  >   playback between the two different versions. Just to be 
  perfectly
  >   clear: when I load a patch created in the exs into the exsp will 
  it
  >   sound and behave the same?? Thanks.
  > 
  >   Steve
  > 
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Re: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P

2003-08-27 by Gregory Anderson

Well, it took me a long time to verify my statement, but I do indeed have
the EXSP AU working as a multichannel plugin.  There is an CHA dropdown, and
you load different instruments into each of the 16 slots, then connect a
multichannel instrument to the audio instrument and voila.

The reason that it took me so long to verify is that I used to be able to
this with the VST version in OS9 but can't seem to get that CHA menu to come
down anymore - I have no idea why.  I just got OSX up and running again on
my laptop so was able to test out the AU version this morning.

Sampletank Free as well does this in OS9.

Gregory
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From: "beatz" <beatz@...>

Personally, i would recommend the EXS24 if you're into heavy tweaking, and
the player for milder modulation of pgm's. By the way, if you get the EXSP
to work as a multichannel in logic, please let me know! Thanks

Regards

Tom 



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Re: [EXS] EXS vs. EXS-P

2003-09-06 by gijsje2

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Gregory Anderson <ggaslp@p...> wrote:
> Well, it took me a long time to verify my statement, but I do indeed have
> the EXSP AU working as a multichannel plugin.  There is an CHA dropdown, and
> you load different instruments into each of the 16 slots, then connect a
> multichannel instrument to the audio instrument and voila.
> 
> The reason that it took me so long to verify is that I used to be able to
> this with the VST version in OS9 but can't seem to get that CHA menu to come
> down anymore - I have no idea why. 

Works fine for me, put the MIDI channel to all, to switch from external controler, or 
put the the channel to 1-16 to pick the instrument.
No problems having the CHA(nnel) to drop down.
marc

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