K5synth

I'm new to this group, so wanted to share my experience with the K5. 

I bought my K5m module on '93 in Buenos Aires, used it for two 
years, then moved to Caracas. 9 years it lay on a box, until I dug 
it up. It was all perfect except the LCD was dead. I opened it up 
and saw a loose flat cable connector (Whew!). I then had trouble 
using it in multitimbral mode, since I forgot I had to put it in 
MULTI mode, selecting the individual patches and channels from the 
synth, not the PC sequencer.

Really exciting moment when it all worked fine. I have a Boss DR550 
drum module, and a Kawai KC-10 midi controller. Actually, the KC-10 
is still in Buenos Aires, so I'm now using a lame Casio CT480 to 
control the K5m (no velocity, aftertouch, pathetic.) I also got a 
little 5 channel mixer to mmix audio. No effects, PC can do that. 
I've written a couple of new age/techo songs with this improvised 
studio. I'm not much of a professional musician, but composing with 
this Kawai jewel is completely relaxing.

I'm using Turtle Beach USB MIDI cable, and Voyetra's  Record 
Producer MIDI. I have copies of Cakewalk, Cubase, etc, but I believe 
RPMidi is enough, unless you want to add MIDI echo and stuff.

I also installed an Atari emulator and K5 Wave and K5 Pro software, 
also the K5 Wave creator. All amazing software, really controls the 
K5 realtime, letting you hear the sound evolve as you change the 
parameters from the PC. Highly recommended!!, besides the K5 buttons 
are really uncomfortable to use. 

I got about 4 banks of single patches, but I'm sure there are a lot 
more. 

How about we all share out patches with each other? Could be using 
sysex, but I really recommend using the K5 Pro format (*.K5s). I'll 
try uploading the three banks I have to the Files folder. For those 
who don't have K5 Pro, it's really easy to use, you can get all you 
need from kfuenf.org. I got a lot of help from Klaus there.


A final question: my sustain pedal doesn't seem to work. I plugged 
it into the Hold jack and nothing happens. Anything else to do on 
the K5 or is the pedal plan broken?

Bye!

Capezzani, (I don't know your first name, so I hope that it doesn't sound
disrespectful to call you by your last name).

I tried out K5 edit Pro last night and Caged Artist K5 editor. I must say
that K5 editor seems to be easier to use - but I probably missed something -
K5 edit pro doesn't seem to send my edits as I make them, but I have to tell
it to send after I edit, and also, it overwrites patches instead of using an
edit buffer... but I'm sort of new to the Atari GEM thing.  I probably
missed something.


---- My Atari History-----
I spent my entire teenage home life during the first half of the 1980's
writing games and graphic editors and sound makers for my Atari 400 in Basic
and 6502 assembler (anyone remember Display List Interrupts?, but I never
upgraded to the newer Atari's when they came out, and wound up as a Database
Programmer...
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The K5 Wave Creator - is that something that will convert .wav files to k5
spectra? I had heard of some Atari software that would do that, but I
haven't had any luck in my web searches.

Thanks

Joel

The name is Mariano, I thought I'd appear automatically beside my 
nick. ;)

You're right about the K5 Editor, it is a bit better than the K5 Pro 
in that it let's you try the patch you're modifying by just clicking 
the mouse on the screen (high to low from right to left, nice). The 
good thing about the K5 Pro though, is that you can send a single 
patch to a specific location, not always SIA-12.

Oh, and it's not K5 Wave Creator, but K5 Wave Maker (little mistake 
there). You can get if from kfuenf.org, I think. It's a bit limited, 
but it has some interesting features. You can even generate 
waveforms based on the legendary DX7 FM synthesis. If only I could 
understand the way it's done, I'm lost with those operators, and 
feedback...It's not a wav-to-K5 translator (I'm still on the quest 
for that filosopher's stone), and it only gives you information 
related to harmonic intensity (DHG), nothing else. 

Regarding my experience with Atari: only the game board, the one you 
interted cartridges in (Combat, Space Invaders, etc.) I'm from '76, 
so my first PC was the IBM.

Ok, see you all.

--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "jbrave" <onephatcat@e...> wrote:
> Capezzani, (I don't know your first name, so I hope that it 
doesn't sound
> disrespectful to call you by your last name).
> 
> I tried out K5 edit Pro last night and Caged Artist K5 editor. I 
must say
> that K5 editor seems to be easier to use - but I probably missed 
something -
> K5 edit pro doesn't seem to send my edits as I make them, but I 
have to tell
> it to send after I edit, and also, it overwrites patches instead 
of using an
> edit buffer... but I'm sort of new to the Atari GEM thing.  I 
probably
> missed something.
> 
> 
> ---- My Atari History-----
> I spent my entire teenage home life during the first half of the 
1980's
> writing games and graphic editors and sound makers for my Atari 
400 in Basic
> and 6502 assembler (anyone remember Display List Interrupts?, but 
I never
> upgraded to the newer Atari's when they came out, and wound up as 
a Database
> Programmer...
> -------------------------------
> 
> The K5 Wave Creator - is that something that will convert .wav 
files to k5
> spectra? I had heard of some Atari software that would do that, 
but I

> haven't had any luck in my web searches.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Joel

--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "capezzani" <capezzani@y...> wrote:
> The name is Mariano, I thought I'd appear automatically beside my 
> nick. ;)

<snip>
 
> Oh, and it's not K5 Wave Creator, but K5 Wave Maker (little 
mistake 
> there). You can get if from kfuenf.org, I think. It's a bit 
limited, 
> but it has some interesting features. You can even generate 
> waveforms based on the legendary DX7 FM synthesis. If only I could 
> understand the way it's done, 

Hi!

I'm the author of the program. :-) I wrote it going on 6 years ago 
now (man, how time is flying!). It worked by generating a single 
cycle waveform using FM synthesis and performing a Fourier analysis 
on the waveform to generate a harmonic spectrum that could then be 
transmitted to the K5. It also had functions for creating basic 
analog type waveforms, saw, pulse, triangle, etc.

This being my first post, just like to say hello to everyone and 
that I'm glad to see this group formed to support the Kawai K5. I 
still have mine, and it really is an amazing synth.

Hi,

Great to hear this group now counts with someone who has delved into 
the deepness of the K5's programming!

I've listened to your vectorsample.mp3. Awesome!! That type of 
control could be added to the filter's envelope, sort of a dymanic 
filter you could apply to a playing pattern. Cheap version of an 
effect's console. =(

Do you think you could share the patch your made us hear(or any 
other patch bank you might have)? I've uploaded the patches I could 
gather some time ago, in Dr T.'s format. (I think it's the easiest 
way to edit patches).

Regarding spectrum analysis, which you program does to generate the 
K5's harmonics, I've been looking for a decent software that could 
take a wave sample, spectrum-analyze it, and return the intensities 
of harmonics, but haven't found any. Do you know of any?

Thank you
Best regards, 

--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "Les" <jabberdabber@h...> wrote:
> --- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "capezzani" <capezzani@y...> wrote:
> > The name is Mariano, I thought I'd appear automatically beside 
my 
> > nick. ;)
> 
> <snip>
>  
> > Oh, and it's not K5 Wave Creator, but K5 Wave Maker (little 
> mistake 
> > there). You can get if from kfuenf.org, I think. It's a bit 
> limited, 
> > but it has some interesting features. You can even generate 
> > waveforms based on the legendary DX7 FM synthesis. If only I 
could 
> > understand the way it's done, 
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I'm the author of the program. :-) I wrote it going on 6 years ago 
> now (man, how time is flying!). It worked by generating a single 
> cycle waveform using FM synthesis and performing a Fourier 
analysis 

> on the waveform to generate a harmonic spectrum that could then be 
> transmitted to the K5. It also had functions for creating basic 
> analog type waveforms, saw, pulse, triangle, etc.
> 
> This being my first post, just like to say hello to everyone and 
> that I'm glad to see this group formed to support the Kawai K5. I 
> still have mine, and it really is an amazing synth.

>Great to hear this group now counts with someone who has delved into
>the deepness of the K5's programming!

Thanks!

>Do you think you could share the patch your made us hear(or any
>other patch bank you might have)? I've uploaded the patches I could
>gather some time ago, in Dr T.'s format. (I think it's the easiest
>way to edit patches).

I'll try to get some patches up over the next coupla weeks. I need to clean 
up the two vector patches, then I'll be happy to put them up.

>Regarding spectrum analysis, which you program does to generate the
>K5's harmonics, I've been looking for a decent software that could
>take a wave sample, spectrum-analyze it, and return the intensities
>of harmonics, but haven't found any. Do you know of any?

I don't know of any program that will do this. I'm considering writing a 
program like this myself. It would be fairly simple by taking a wave file 
that has been edited down to a single cycle. That would make it much more 
manageable. It may take me awhile before I can start work on it, but it 
would be a great tool for us additive synthesis aficionados. :-)

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