Kawai Synthesizers group photo

Yahoo Groups archive

Kawai Synthesizers

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 23:25 UTC

Thread

K1 and Rhythm Rascal

K1 and Rhythm Rascal

2006-07-06 by gazzanewpy

I now have my K1 working completely but for one curious thing. I am 
testing out Rhythm Rascal, which allows you to create drum patterns 
and then export them as MIDI. When I import the MIDI file into CBase 
SX3 the K1 ignores them completely.

All other MIDI sections play fine, the channel is set to 10 yet 
nothing. If I swap the channel to, say, 7 and select Bank 0, programme 
3 then I hear the pattern via the strings section but reset it to 
channel 10 and nothing.

What am I doing wrong? I know the K1 was pre-GM so the GM Drum Map 
won't work but should I remap the drum setup for the K1?

Re: K1 and Rhythm Rascal

2006-07-10 by jazamatasktic

--- In kawaisynths@yahoogroups.com, "gazzanewpy" <gazzanewpy@...> 
wrote:
>
> I now have my K1 working completely but for one curious thing. I am 
> testing out Rhythm Rascal, which allows you to create drum patterns 
> and then export them as MIDI. When I import the MIDI file into 
CBase 
> SX3 the K1 ignores them completely.
> 
> All other MIDI sections play fine, the channel is set to 10 yet 
> nothing. If I swap the channel to, say, 7 and select Bank 0, 
programme 
> 3 then I hear the pattern via the strings section but reset it to 
> channel 10 and nothing.
> 
> What am I doing wrong? I know the K1 was pre-GM so the GM Drum Map 
> won't work but should I remap the drum setup for the K1?
>

I am not an expert in no way at all.  I have a k1 II, and all my 
drums/percution (sp) is all set up on the 'lower-end' of the 
keyboard.  
one note for one type of sound.  It is my guess that the rythem 
porgram 
your using is setting the notes too high on the musical scale.  drop 
the input to the synth an octive or two possiably 3, and see what you 
get on chanel 10.  and well, I'm also thinking that a 'symbal' on the 
rythem program may not be a symbel on the kawai unless it was 
standaredized.  hehhe... so your base drum may turn out to be a silly 
little triangle!
reconfigering... I think that it might be eaiser to reconfiger the 
program with the rythem machine or what ever your using to fit to the 
kawai.  if the keys are standardized it may only need to be 
transposed 
to the right octive.  if not then you may need to change the 
insturments around in the rythem program to match up with the kawai.  
changing the kawai to match the rythem program I think would be a lot 
more work then needed.

Question????   I posted a message on here like monthes ago about this 
and got no responce.  what are you using for a computer with your 
kawai? and what midi tonebank and sound patch editor are you using?? 
I 
need one realy bad. the closer you can get to FREE the better. I"m 
poor! :(  I had like 3,000 sounds for my kawai k1 II on my old amiga, 
but then I upgraded the software years ago and the sound editor 
didn't 
work after that.  I still have the amiga, but no way to port them off 
to the IBM.  another question. is a sound file a sound file a sound 
file regardless of what the editor your using?  I have found the old 
amiga sound bank tone patch editor, and a way to decompress the files 
onto the IBM, within that archive there are 1,000's of tone patches 
and banks. I'm just wondering if I can use them with the IBM???? If 
and when I ever find a good sound editor for the IBM.

Re: K1 and Rhythm Rascal

2006-07-11 by jusufzemplin

Hi,

you can do it according manual in Files section  http://f6.grp.
yahoofs.com/v1/
YD6zRFf3Mc_SN6jY_5EAVR8eflyE_ltEULfOU9RrL9Iz7XR_9oZh4zVwuLAao3y10ufohL
PvdNCHm3UTf9VsaAEznLk9NPTjk2B3/K1%20series/Kawai%20K1-II.zip  page 45 
(resp. 47).

- press SYSTEM button
- with +/- or joystick change SYS to DRUM
- press again SYSTEM and you can set Drum Channel to 10 (+/- or 
joystick)

Then you can set for example GM-like mapping of drum instruments:
- press SYSTEM several times to get to DRUM-6 INST
- press the key you want to map (from C1 to C3)
- select instrument (+/- or joystick) what you want map to selected 
key
I hope thats it, what do you need.

Jusuf

Re: K1 and Rhythm Rascal

2006-07-13 by gazzanewpy

Thanks for the reply. In fact I have now found that if I import the 
drum pattern into CuBase it is easier and more realistic to use a 
VST to create the sound. However, I have now found that CuBase has a 
VST and editors that allow the drum pattern to be created within the 
program itself; therefore no need for Rhythm Rascal!

I have the K1 connected to my MIDI ports on the breakout box on my 
audio card (DMX 6Fire), I am using CuBase as my music editor and to 
be honest now have found that the VSTs give me the range of sounds 
without the need to edit the K1 at all. I do occasionally use the 
built in sounds but they are a little dated in many cases and I have 
now found a whole host of free VSTs that have fantastic sounds.

As a continuation of this free theme, there is a piece of software 
called Kristal that is a really good (legally) free music editor. At 
present it does not have MIDI channels (and so is why I moved to 
CuBase) but otherwise it is excellent. 
http://www.kreatives.org/kristal/

I know this does not answer your questions directly but hope it 
helps in some small way. :)

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.