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School or what would you do?

2002-10-03 by Jeremy Martin

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From: Howard Wooten <hwooten@...>
Date: Wed Oct 2, 2002 11:51am
Subject: Re: [OT] School or what would you do?
 >   From: Colin Miller <snoopy@m...>
 >
 >>Allow me to clarify: If you are going to berklee college of music to get a
 >>WELL ROUNDED education you'll be disappointed. the music curriculum there is
 >>certainly fine. If you like a factory atmosphere, it's the place to go.
 >>
 >>teddybut
 >
 >
 >I don't recall much non-musical education there, but supposedly there was.
 >It's certainly not a factory atmosphere, that's a bit ignorant of a comment
 >that could be said about any place. It's just more indepth than most
 >schools and not for those who just want to learn the basics.
 >
 >Colin Miller

Agreed

On the plus side.....

By going to a University with a jazz program I was able to play with
guest artists as diverse as Don Ellis, Ron Carter, Bob Mintzer, Tommy Newsome,
Carla Bley & Steve Swallow,....etc. Spent a week hanging with Joe Pass and
at another time, spent a week with Bill Evans. I consider this experience
invaluable in gaining perspective of what performing at a high level is all
about. This was a music school in the southwest U.S. that only has a
"moderate" Jazz program, their main focus is education.

Yes, much of the atmosphere was academia at it's worst, however, the
experience gained there (especially for an inexperienced 18yr old) was
worth it.

howard

All the best,
Jeremy Martin; sadus@...
http://www.carrollsweb.com/sadus 

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Re: [L-OT] School or what would you do?

2002-10-03 by Colin Miller

At 08:03 PM 10/2/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>Agreed
>
>On the plus side.....
>
>By going to a University with a jazz program I was able to play with
>guest artists as diverse as Don Ellis, Ron Carter, Bob Mintzer, Tommy Newsome,
>Carla Bley & Steve Swallow,....etc. Spent a week hanging with Joe Pass and
>at another time, spent a week with Bill Evans. I consider this experience
>invaluable in gaining perspective of what performing at a high level is all
>about. This was a music school in the southwest U.S. that only has a
>"moderate" Jazz program, their main focus is education.
>
>Yes, much of the atmosphere was academia at it's worst, however, the
>experience gained there (especially for an inexperienced 18yr old) was
>worth it.

Just to add to the ongoing conversation and the comment of it being a 
factory, some of my fellow classmates include Paula Cole, BT, and Able 
Laboriel Jr. Not exactly cookie cutter musicians. They may not have been 
known then, but they were just as talented as they are known to be now. I 
don't know anything about the whole poser issue or what that means. I think 
some people need to be spoon fed and others know how to find what and who 
they need to grow (not referring to anyone in particular, just 
generalization). I think you were like me and managed to go out and find 
the good cats.

Colin Miller

Re: School or what would you do?

2002-10-03 by teddybut

> Paula Cole, BT, and Able
> Laboriel Jr. Not exactly cookie cutter musicians.

one man's cookie cutter is another man's holy grail.

teddybut

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