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Re: New poll for logic-ot

Re: New poll for logic-ot

2002-10-23 by Zeek Duff

logic-ot@yahoogroups.com wrote:

>Message: 20
>   Date: 22 Oct 2002 20:53:57 -0000
>   From: logic-ot
>Subject: New poll for logic-ot
>
>
>Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the 
>logic-ot group:
>
>Should the Logic-OT list only focus on 
>issues that relate to music in some 
>way, or can any subject at all be 
>discussed here (politics, religion, 
>food, etc)?
> 
>
>  o Keep the Logic-OT list related to music, and create a separate list for Logic-users to hold general discussions not related to music at all. 
>  o Let the Logic-OT list talk about whatever it wants, and do not create any additional lists. 
>
>
>To vote, please visit the following web page:
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-ot/surveys?id=993090 
>

Well "moderators," I sure don't know how you're going to decide what's 
"related to music" and what isn't.  As far as I'm concerned, everything 
in life is "related to music."  Or, "Music is life, the rest is 
details."  However, in regards to what started this "debate," Waves 
plugs are made in Israel, at one point on another list, a boycott was 
suggested, not in support of Palestinians, but in protest of the Israeli 
government's recent actions against other human beings.  I thought about 
it, and decided to postpone my purchase of the Waves Bundle.  We just 
had the American Congress give our "President" unprecedented power to 
make a preemptive strike on another sovereign nation, while our economy 
is in shambles, partly because people are more concerned with an 
impending "war" than creating work, or creating anything, for that 
matter.  Then, we find out that another country, North Korea, has had 
nukes in the oven for some time and our "President" knew that a full 2 
weeks before Congress voted to give him his requested, unprecedented 
"power."  A secret his administration kept until after the vote, events 
certainly worthy of at least a 3 chord Folk Song, recorded in Logic 
Audio Platinum.

So, how does all this relate to Logic Audio?  I'll tell you; in my case, 
I won't be buying a Logic upgrade until things settle down.  I won't be 
buying Waves until things settle down.  I won't be buying a new Mac 
until things settle down.  I won't always have an opinion to offer, but 
I'll have one, and it will be influenced by what other people think 
about the same things that affect me.  But, find all this on yet another 
list?  Not worth the effort.  Jeremy notes we have 608 LUGgers on this 
list and I'll note that only 27 of them voted in the last poll.  I'd say 
that indicates an overwhelming majority who don't give a fat rat's ass 
WHAT is discussed on this list, by a margin of 596 to 12.  The ratio of 
LUG on topic subscribers to LUG-OT subscribers suggests that this is the 
only list needed to preserve the interest of those who have  "related" 
interests beyond the actual care and feeding of Logic Audio, itself.  At 
608 to 9265, I'm shown that less than 1/10th of the Logic Users know 
about this list or care about it and how it relates to their craft.  I 
could construe that imbalance as due to people who don't vote or don't 
care about anything else, but that would be as silly as assuming 12 
people should "legitimately" decide what 596 others discuss.

The rest of this discussion has been about personal idiosyncrasies, and 
is the most irrelevant discussion of all.  I care more about what 
someone thinks than how they express it or their opinion of how someone 
else expressed theirs, idiot, asshole, or "nice guy."  So, skip the 
bullshit, forget the insults, they aren't REALLY personal because no one 
REALLY knows anyone else here, and get on with the "debates," whatever 
the "topic."  It's all food for thought and certainly something to write 
about, both words and music.  :)

Regards,
...z


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Re: New poll for logic-ot

2002-10-23 by kumpy105

zeek duff wrote:
> Well "moderators," I sure don't know how you're going to 
decide what's 
> "related to music" and what isn't.  As far as I'm concerned, 
everything 
> in life is "related to music."  Or, "Music is life, the rest is 
> details."  

right on rainbow brother

>  We just 
> had the American Congress give our "President" 
unprecedented power to 
> make a preemptive strike on another sovereign nation, while 
our economy 
> is in shambles, partly because people are more concerned 
with an 
> impending "war" than creating work, or creating anything, for 
that 
> matter.  Then, we find out that another country, North Korea, 
has had 
> nukes in the oven for some time and our "President" knew that 
a full 2 
> weeks before Congress voted to give him his requested, 
unprecedented 
> "power."  A secret his administration kept until after the vote, 
events 
> certainly worthy of at least a 3 chord Folk Song, recorded in 
Logic 
> Audio Platinum.

are you suggesting that our "moderators" have a secret agenda 
they aren't telling us about? how dramatic! nice way to sneek 
politics in without being deleted.  ; )

>But, find all this on yet another 
> list?  Not worth the effort.  Jeremy notes we have 608 LUGgers 
on this 
> list and I'll note that only 27 of them voted in the last poll.  I'd 
say 
> that indicates an overwhelming majority who don't give a fat 
rat's ass 
> WHAT is discussed on this list, by a margin of 596 to 12.  


Even the US public has a higher voting ratio! At least the yahoo 
voting machine works and the ballot is understandable.

>The ratio of 
> LUG on topic subscribers to LUG-OT subscribers suggests 
that this is the 
> only list needed to preserve the interest of those who have  
"related" 
> interests beyond the actual care and feeding of Logic Audio, 
itself.  At 
> 608 to 9265, I'm shown that less than 1/10th of the Logic 
Users know 
> about this list or care about it and how it relates to their craft.  I 
> could construe that imbalance as due to people who don't vote 
or don't 
> care about anything else, but that would be as silly as 
assuming 12 
> people should "legitimately" decide what 596 others discuss.
> 
> The rest of this discussion has been about personal 
idiosyncrasies, and 
> is the most irrelevant discussion of all.  I care more about what 
> someone thinks than how they express it or their opinion of 
how someone 
> else expressed theirs, idiot, asshole, or "nice guy."  So, skip 
the 
> bullshit, forget the insults, they aren't REALLY personal 
because no one 
> REALLY knows anyone else here, and get on with the 
"debates," whatever 
> the "topic." 
> 
> Regards,
> ...z

thank you Zeek for your words of wisdom.

teddybut

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