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Actually it�s not for me and I know that PC and Logic don�t match anymore but since I haven�t really been following anything on the PC side since the Emapple showstopper I would like to know - which motherboard, processor etc would be the right ones to buy now. Oh yeah it�s got to be cheap as well and it doesn�t matter if it�s not the latest fastest one as long as it�s stable and not slow.
Henrik Krogh
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At 06:57 PM 3/15/04 +0100, you wrote:
>Actually it´s not for me and I know that PC and Logic don´t match anymore 
>but since I haven´t really been following anything on the PC side since the 
>Emapple showstopper I would like to know - which motherboard, processor etc 
>would be the right ones to buy now. Oh yeah it´s got to be cheap as well and 
>it doesn´t matter if it´s not the latest fastest one as long as it´s stable 
>and not slow.

If you are going Intel: 
Asus P4P800 is cheap(ish) and good. 
Asus P4C800E Deluxe is widely regarded as one of the best but it is pricier.
Get a P42.8C/3.0C processor and 1 - 2 GB of DDR400 (brand name)
Decent case and powersupply is a very good idea IMHO

If you are going AMD there are a bunch of choices according to processor
(Athlon/Athlon64) 
RME forums - rme-audio.forum on  news.x-networks.de has recommendations
from users on what to choose.
You could also look on www.TomsHardware.com/Anandtech.com for recomendations. 

The choice could depend on your sound hardware and what is working for
people with that card/Interface.

Regards,
M

Hi Guys,

I've been recommended the third party utility Cocktail for OSX system
maintenance. Do I really need that for doing music production on a G5 or is
Cocktail just for "Mac freaks suffering from paranoia"?

Best wishes

Per Boysen
-- 
www.boysen.se
www.looproom.com

> I've been recommended the third party utility Cocktail for OSX system
> maintenance. Do I really need that for doing music production on a G5 
> or is
> Cocktail just for "Mac freaks suffering from paranoia"?

Cocktail is a great system-optimization utility to have... it really 
has nothing to do with whether you're using your machine for audio, 
art, video, writing, whatever... there's nothing paranoid about having 
a "well-groomed" system, is there?


Brian
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Logic Audio Pro 6.4.1
PowerMac G4 933MHz
OS X 10.3.3
1 GB RAM
M-Audio Delta 24/96
   (fed via S/PDIF from a
    Yamaha DSP Factory)

On 04-03-28 18.03,  "Brian Pylant" <bappo@...> wrote:

>> I've been recommended the third party utility Cocktail for OSX system
>> maintenance. Do I really need that for doing music production on a G5
>> or is
>> Cocktail just for "Mac freaks suffering from paranoia"?
> 
> Cocktail is a great system-optimization utility to have... it really
> has nothing to do with whether you're using your machine for audio,
> art, video, writing, whatever... there's nothing paranoid about having
> a "well-groomed" system, is there?


Of course not ;-)  I guess I'll put Cocktail on my shopping list then. Thank
you for the feedback!

Best wishes

Per Boysen
-- 
www.boysen.se
www.looproom.com

> I've been recommended the third party utility Cocktail for OSX system
> maintenance. Do I really need that for doing music production on a G5 
> or is
> Cocktail just for "Mac freaks suffering from paranoia"?

Use Yasu, it's free and does practically the same. And yes, you should 
use it once every couple of weeks or so. It keeps your system healthy.
http://homepage.mac.com/jim.mitchell/yasu/index.html


Remco

> Use Yasu, it's free and does practically the same. And yes, you should
> use it once every couple of weeks or so. It keeps your system healthy.
> http://homepage.mac.com/jim.mitchell/yasu/index.html

As nice as Yasu is, and a price that can't be beat, it really doesn't 
do nearly as much as Cocktail does...


Brian
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Logic Audio Pro 6.4.1
PowerMac G4 933MHz
OS X 10.3.3
1 GB RAM
M-Audio Delta 24/96
   (fed via S/PDIF from a
    Yamaha DSP Factory)

--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, Brian Pylant <bappo@b...> wrote:
> > Use Yasu, it's free and does practically the same. And yes, you should
> > use it once every couple of weeks or so. It keeps your system healthy.
> > http://homepage.mac.com/jim.mitchell/yasu/index.html
> 
> As nice as Yasu is, and a price that can't be beat, it really doesn't 
> do nearly as much as Cocktail does...

just learn some unix and do it in a bash shell. ;)

rob

On 04-03-29 16.52,  "rob" <orbitborn@...> wrote:
 
> just learn some unix and do it in a bash shell. ;)
> 
> rob

Oh man.... Changing guitar strings and backing up data is already stealing
too much time from creating music ;-)  Why can't computers maintain
themselves and just work?

Best wishes

Per Boysen
-- 
www.boysen.se
www.looproom.com

On Mar 29, 2004, at 3:54 AM, logic-ot@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> Subject: Re: OSX maintenance with "Cocktail"?
>
>> Use Yasu, it's free and does practically the same. And yes, you should
>> use it once every couple of weeks or so. It keeps your system healthy.
>> http://homepage.mac.com/jim.mitchell/yasu/index.html
>
> As nice as Yasu is, and a price that can't be beat, it really doesn't
> do nearly as much as Cocktail does...
>
>

How about Onyx?  It does everything that Cocktail does, and it's free.

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/11582

>> Use Yasu, it's free and does practically the same. And yes, you should
>> use it once every couple of weeks or so. It keeps your system healthy.
>> http://homepage.mac.com/jim.mitchell/yasu/index.html
>
> As nice as Yasu is, and a price that can't be beat, it really doesn't
> do nearly as much as Cocktail does...
>

Ok, but what does Cocktail do that Yasu doesn't that is essential to 
keep your Mac healthy? I mean, sure it's nice you can custimize the 
Finder and the Dock, but do you need Cocktail for that? On the other 
hand, it's nice the app does it and it's not so expensive.

Remco

> >> Use Yasu, it's free and does practically the same. And yes, you 
> >> should use it once every couple of weeks or so. It keeps 
> your system 
> >> healthy. http://homepage.mac.com/jim.mitchell/yasu/index.html
> >
> > As nice as Yasu is, and a price that can't be beat, it 
> really doesn't 
> > do nearly as much as Cocktail does...
> >
> 
> Ok, but what does Cocktail do that Yasu doesn't that is essential to 
> keep your Mac healthy? I mean, sure it's nice you can custimize the 
> Finder and the Dock, but do you need Cocktail for that? On the other 
> hand, it's nice the app does it and it's not so expensive.
> 

I highly recommend Macaroni for automatically maintaining your mac.  Its
$10.

> How about Onyx?  It does everything that Cocktail does, and it's free.
>
> http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/11582

Never heard of it, but thanks for the lead - I'll have to d/l it and 
give it a whirl...


Brian
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Logic Audio Pro 6.4.1
PowerMac G4 933MHz
OS X 10.3.3
1 GB RAM
M-Audio Delta 24/96
   (fed via S/PDIF from a
    Yamaha DSP Factory)

> Ok, but what does Cocktail do that Yasu doesn't that is essential to
> keep your Mac healthy? I mean, sure it's nice you can custimize the
> Finder and the Dock, but do you need Cocktail for that? On the other
> hand, it's nice the app does it and it's not so expensive.

Take another look at the Cocktail feature list - the UI section is but 
one small portion of the list. Networking, cache cleaning, unlocking 
files... Cocktail does quite a bit, and well.


Brian
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Logic Audio Pro 6.4.1
PowerMac G4 933MHz
OS X 10.3.3
1 GB RAM
M-Audio Delta 24/96
   (fed via S/PDIF from a
    Yamaha DSP Factory)

On 04-03-30 06.38,  "Brian Pylant" <bappo@...> wrote:

>> Ok, but what does Cocktail do that Yasu doesn't that is essential to
>> keep your Mac healthy? I mean, sure it's nice you can custimize the
>> Finder and the Dock, but do you need Cocktail for that? On the other
>> hand, it's nice the app does it and it's not so expensive.
> 
> Take another look at the Cocktail feature list - the UI section is but
> one small portion of the list. Networking, cache cleaning, unlocking
> files... Cocktail does quite a bit, and well.


Fine. But the question still remains: "which system maintenance function do
we need for using G5:s for music production"? Usually a computer is getting
better with audio if you keep the system slim and tidy.

Best wishes

Per Boysen
-- 
www.boysen.se
www.looproom.com

<quote>
------------------------------
**<Bleep>ing GarageBand!** Apple Computer today announced the
  availability of Bleeper, a free innovative Audio Units plug-in for
  use with Apple's entry-level digital music program, GarageBand.
  In a technological first for a plug-in designed for a music-
  creation program, Bleeper integrates with Mac OS X's built-in
  Speech Recognition technology to detect and "bleep" potentially
  profane or obscene language in speech or singing in real time.
  Bleeper can be applied either to existing audio tracks (to create
  "radio mixes" of your GarageBand songs) or to vocals being
  recorded in real time (so parents and teachers don't have to
  worry about children creating potentially offensive material
  with GarageBand). You can even apply Bleeper to instrumental
  tracks, although the results can be a little unpredictable.
  Bleeper itself is highly configurable, enabling music creators
  to insert silence, a wide variety of substitution tones, or even
  vanity noises whenever Bleeper detects a potentially offensive
  word.
------------------------------
</quote>


I guess this funny app would work with Logic as well. I wonder if you can
edit the list of "bad words"? Don't have the time to check it out right now
so I thought I should see if someone here on the list have tried Bleeper?

Best wishes

Per Boysen
-- 
www.boysen.se
www.looproom.com

At 13:53 Uhr +0200 01.04.2004, Per Boysen wrote:
>**<Bleep>ing GarageBand!** Apple Computer today announced the
>   availability of Bleeper,

snip

What day is today?

...

Exactly

Cheers
Hans

On 04-04-01 15.03,  "Hans Hafner" <hanshafner@...> wrote:

> At 13:53 Uhr +0200 01.04.2004, Per Boysen wrote:
>> **<Bleep>ing GarageBand!** Apple Computer today announced the
>>   availability of Bleeper,
> 
> snip
> 
> What day is today?


L-O-L!!!!

Whatever happened to those PowerBooks with a built in toaster? And the
desktops with coffee cup warmer/holder? ;-)

Best wishes

Per Boysen
-- 
www.boysen.se
www.looproom.com

--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, Per Boysen <per@b...> wrote:
> L-O-L!!!!
> 
> Whatever happened to those PowerBooks with a built in toaster? And the
> desktops with coffee cup warmer/holder? ;-)

you can buy the USB-powered coffee warmer at ThinkGeek.com!

rob