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My son wants a keyboard with a decent piano. He is 17 and a pretty good player. He is a guitar player but he wants to expand his business and at the moment he uses a Roland U20 but he's restricted to 61 keys and a very light keyboard which I think is great for some things but not for piano. I have found that Ensoniq keyboards are sold second hand for a lot less than the competition and I think that's mainly because they never really did as well commercially as critically. What I would like to ask is how good/bad are KT76 and KS32 and how old are they. I checked Harmonycentral and they love them but compared to what.

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I've owned snd stil have an old Ensoniq SQ-1 PLUS keyboard and a new Korg bought last year and I still prefer the sound and feel of the Ensoniq it just doesn't have all the bells and whistle and complications of the new ones. Ensoniq is quite preferable to me in my opinion but like you said the resale value is low. I don't know why.

HKC <hkc@...> wrote:          My son wants a keyboard with a decent piano. He is 17 and a pretty good player. He is a guitar player but he wants to expand his business and at the moment he uses a Roland U20 but he's restricted to 61 keys and a very light keyboard which I think is great for some things but not for piano. I have found that Ensoniq keyboards are sold second hand for a lot less than the competition and I think that's mainly because they never really did as well commercially as critically. What I would like to ask is how good/bad are KT76 and KS32 and how old are they. I checked Harmonycentral and they love them but compared to what.

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Jemery wrote: I've owned and stil have an old Ensoniq SQ-1 PLUS keyboard and a new Korg bought last year. Ensoniq is quite preferable to me in my opinion 

Paul Najar wrote: My 0.02 cents worth: Stay away. Their sounds were not great by today's standards. 


I guess there are no simple answers. My son plays in a band and will mainly be using the keyboard during rehearsals in a rehearsal room and I'm sure he doesn't want to bring his computer to that place everytime so a soft solution probably won't cut it. I have a Roland RD600 which he would love to use but that's placed in my studio and resale on them is quite high so we're really after something similar but cheaper. 76-88 decent weighted keys, a fair selection of sounds....all in all what Ensoniq has to offer but I have to check the local service before I go in. 

BTW I know the Alesis QS series quite well but they are rarely for sale but I guess they could be a good bet as well.

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If your going for organic natural true real life sound probably latest and greatest is best but for 80's pop, industrial and alternative style music. The old and cheap Ensoniq's are the best in my opinion. 

HKC <hkc@...> wrote:          Jemery wrote: I've owned and stil have an old Ensoniq SQ-1 PLUS keyboard and a new Korg bought last year. Ensoniq is quite preferable to me in my opinion 

Paul Najar wrote: My 0.02 cents worth: Stay away. Their sounds were not great by today's standards. 

I guess there are no simple answers. My son plays in a band and will mainly be using the keyboard during rehearsals in a rehearsal room and I'm sure he doesn't want to bring his computer to that place everytime so a soft solution probably won't cut it. I have a Roland RD600 which he would love to use but that's placed in my studio and resale on them is quite high so we're really after something similar but cheaper. 76-88 decent weighted keys, a fair selection of sounds....all in all what Ensoniq has to offer but I have to check the local service before I go in. 

BTW I know the Alesis QS series quite well but they are rarely for sale but I guess they could be a good bet as well.

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If your going for organic natural true real life sound probably latest and greatest is best but for 80's pop, industrial and alternative style music. The old and cheap Ensoniq's are the best in my opinion. 

HKC <hkc@...> wrote:          Jemery wrote: I've owned and stil have an old Ensoniq SQ-1 PLUS keyboard and a new Korg bought last year. Ensoniq is quite preferable to me in my opinion 

Paul Najar wrote: My 0.02 cents worth: Stay away. Their sounds were not great by today's standards. 

I guess there are no simple answers. My son plays in a band and will mainly be using the keyboard during rehearsals in a rehearsal room and I'm sure he doesn't want to bring his computer to that place everytime so a soft solution probably won't cut it. I have a Roland RD600 which he would love to use but that's placed in my studio and resale on them is quite high so we're really after something similar but cheaper. 76-88 decent weighted keys, a fair selection of sounds....all in all what Ensoniq has to offer but I have to check the local service before I go in. 

BTW I know the Alesis QS series quite well but they are rarely for sale but I guess they could be a good bet as well.

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On 09/12/2006, at 10:33 PM, HKC wrote:
> I guess there are no simple answers. My son plays in a band and  
> will mainly be using the keyboard during rehearsals in a rehearsal  
> room and I'm sure he doesn't want to bring his computer to that  
> place everytime so a soft solution probably won't cut it. I have a  
> Roland RD600 which he would love to use but that's placed in my  
> studio and resale on them is quite high so we're really after  
> something similar but cheaper. 76-88 decent weighted keys, a fair  
> selection of sounds....all in all what Ensoniq has to offer but I  
> have to check the local service before I go in.

There were also some reasonable Yamaha weighted keys with decent  
piano sounds around this time also...


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Message posted by Drleer <drleer@...>:

Hi - I have an Ensoniq KS32 (about 5 years old) and recently shopped 
and then bought a Yamaha P-90. I was looking not so much for many 
synth tricks as the best sounding piano and best FEELING piano - - I 
think this Yamaha is the best out there  - - as a piano player - - 
the only 2 things better, are my Yamaha CP80 (baby-grand that is 
old and heavier than a truck) - - and of course a REAL piano - the 
Yamaha P's (there's another version with bells and tricks for synth 
fans) are my favorite. Also, it's VERY LIGHT - - which is great for 
carrying around - even with 88 nicely weighted keys (also has built 
in speaker you can disengage anytime).

GOOD LUCK!