Lpc2000

Hi - can someone reveal if other members are planned with more internal flash memory ? Is there a roadmap that can be shared ?
Will Philips support the Cortex ARM7 family with MMU and internal Digital Rights Management ?
We are looking for members with more flash and very low power standby current, whilst RTC is running for (high volume) POS-application ...
What will happen with the older LPC members, will they also get a fix in order to upgrade GPIO speed ?
What about the intro of the LPC3000 family ?

Thanks,

Michel

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  Subject: [lpc2000] LPC2101/02/03 Datasheet


  The datasheet for the LPC2101/02/03 can be found at;

  www.standardics.philipa.com/products/lpc2000/pdf/lpc2101_2102_2103.pdf

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Hi Michel,

why am I not surprised that questions about planned devices are some 
of the first comments when announcing new ones ;-)

Some answers some question will remain unanswered.
- More internal Flash, well, have a look at the LPC214x which is 
rather similar in features but goes up to 512 KB Flash.
- Philips and Cortex?  Let's discuss that one sometime in 2006
- Older LPC members will get fixed, expect fixed devices in Q1/06 
for LPC211x, LPC212x, LPC22xx, and Q2 for the LPC2104/5/6
- Intro LPC3000 as high performance number cruncher with Floating 
Point later this year.

Hope this helps, Robert

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Gazelle" <michel.heuts@t...> wrote:
> Hi - can someone reveal if other members are planned with more 
internal flash memory ? Is there a roadmap that can be shared ?
> Will Philips support the Cortex ARM7 family with MMU and internal 
Digital Rights Management ?
> We are looking for members with more flash and very low power 
standby current, whilst RTC is running for (high volume) POS-
application ...
> What will happen with the older LPC members, will they also get a 
fix in order to upgrade GPIO speed ?
> What about the intro of the LPC3000 family ?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Michel
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: philips_marketing_usa 
>   To: lpc2000@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 7:34 PM
>   Subject: [lpc2000] LPC2101/02/03 Datasheet
> 
> 
>   The datasheet for the LPC2101/02/03 can be found at;
> 
>   
www.standardics.philipa.com/products/lpc2000/pdf/lpc2101_2102_2103.pd
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> 
>   See Message number #9057 for the Press Release.
>   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lpc2000/message/9057
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I was pleased to see the announcement of the 2101/2/3. What it means to 
me is that there is little reason to use an 8-bitter in a new design any 
more. I've been watching the ARM uC field develop for the last few years 
I've recently decided that the LPC2xxx will do nicely as my next 
bread-n-butter processor. However, on the low end the need for an 
external 1.8V regulator, external reset, and clock add another buck to 
the BOM. If you look at the low end 8-pin AVRs and PICs 8-bitters they 
have all three built in. IMHO, that's half of their charm.

philips_apps wrote:

>Hi Michel,
>
>why am I not surprised that questions about planned devices are some 
>of the first comments when announcing new ones ;-)
>
>Some answers some question will remain unanswered.
>- More internal Flash, well, have a look at the LPC214x which is 
>rather similar in features but goes up to 512 KB Flash.
>- Philips and Cortex?  Let's discuss that one sometime in 2006
>- Older LPC members will get fixed, expect fixed devices in Q1/06 
>for LPC211x, LPC212x, LPC22xx, and Q2 for the LPC2104/5/6
>- Intro LPC3000 as high performance number cruncher with Floating 
>Point later this year.
>
>Hope this helps, 
>

Rick <rfarmer@...> schrieb am Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:48:25 -0700:

>  I was pleased to see the announcement of the 2101/2/3. What it means to
> me is that there is little reason to use an 8-bitter in a new design any
> more. I've been watching the ARM uC field develop for the last few years
> I've recently decided that the LPC2xxx will do nicely as my next
> bread-n-butter processor. However, on the low end the need for an
> external 1.8V regulator, external reset, and clock add another buck to

I'd like to see a Philips application note, about the simplest way to
build such a system. E.g. no 1.8V regulator but just a voltage divider
(not sure if this is the right term).

> the BOM. If you look at the low end 8-pin AVRs and PICs 8-bitters they
> have all three built in. IMHO, that's half of their charm.

IHMO also, uC cost is not everything. I guess most of the design out there
are still 5V TTL designs.

-- 
42Bastian Schick

Hi

>I'd like to see a Philips application note, about the simplest way to
>build such a system. E.g. no 1.8V regulator but just a voltage divider
>(not sure if this is the right term).

This will probertly never happen ... a resistor divider will never work in
such a setting ... a 1,8V zener diode with a low percentage might though.

Regards
Lasse

Em Seg 26 Set 2005 23:48, Rick escreveu:
>  I was pleased to see the announcement of the 2101/2/3. What it means to
> me is that there is little reason to use an 8-bitter in a new design any
> more. I've been watching the ARM uC field develop for the last few years
> I've recently decided that the LPC2xxx will do nicely as my next
> bread-n-butter processor. However, on the low end the need for an
> external 1.8V regulator, external reset, and clock add another buck to
> the BOM. If you look at the low end 8-pin AVRs and PICs 8-bitters they
> have all three built in. IMHO, that's half of their charm.
>

You are right, but they have different uses. 
For example, I developed a complete car alarm system using a PIC 12F629, wich 
is a 8 pin microcontroller with 6 I/Os, 1k of ROM, 256 bytes of RAM and a 
very good price. My alarm is very very cheap and the sales is going well.
Of course, in such a product, I dont need highspeed, memory, etc.
But when you need highspeed, you cant count with a internal oscilator. For 
example, with internal oscillator it becomes a big problem to use a USART at 
115200 kps. You cant make a internal clock, so it is better to have a 
external cristal.
The power supply, I think is so low because of the high speed of the 
processor. 
And the reset, well, I think is a good idea to have a pin exclusive for this.
When you think in a 6 IOs MCU, using a cristal and external reset, makes you 
lost 50% os the pins (you will have only 3 IOs). But when you have more than 
32 IOs, losing 3 pins is not a big problem.

> philips_apps wrote:
> >Hi Michel,
> >
> >why am I not surprised that questions about planned devices are some
> >of the first comments when announcing new ones ;-)
> >
> >Some answers some question will remain unanswered.
> >- More internal Flash, well, have a look at the LPC214x which is
> >rather similar in features but goes up to 512 KB Flash.
> >- Philips and Cortex?  Let's discuss that one sometime in 2006
> >- Older LPC members will get fixed, expect fixed devices in Q1/06
> >for LPC211x, LPC212x, LPC22xx, and Q2 for the LPC2104/5/6
> >- Intro LPC3000 as high performance number cruncher with Floating
> >Point later this year.
> >
> >Hope this helps,

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "philips_apps" <philips_apps@y...> 
wrote:
> - More internal Flash, well, have a look at the LPC214x which is 
> rather similar in features but goes up to 512 KB Flash.

Plus USB, larger footprint, and more $.

> - Older LPC members will get fixed, expect fixed devices in Q1/06 
> for LPC211x, LPC212x

While I am certainly in favor of fixing all bugs, I wonder about the 
viability of LPC2114 and LPC2124.  Why would one not use LPC2134 and 
LPC2136 instead?