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OT - Wattson efy-6 fuzz

OT - Wattson efy-6 fuzz

2016-03-29 by Robert

Hi Bernie,

I tried to send you this link directly, but it seems that you no longer have the email
address that I used for you around 4 years ago. 

One of the reasons I am considering this pedal is because the knobs are all on 
the front.  Do you think I'll be "ok" with this as opposed to the Wattson FY-6, or should I stay with your recommendation ?

Also, would you or anyone else care to recommend a current boutique Compressor / Sustainer pedal that is way better than the Boss CS-3 (recent vintage) that I already 
have.

Thanks for your opinion(s)...

Robert

http://www.analoguehaven.com/wattsonclassicelectronics/efy-6/


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On Sat, 3/26/16, tron400@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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 Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Electroharmonix Mel9
 To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com: Saturday, March 26, 2016, 8:11 AM    
       
       
       I recommend the Wattson FY-6 Classic Fuzz. I have
 one of the originals that was labeled "Superfuzz".
 It looks and sounds exactly like my old bluish-grey Univox.
 I've tried some other Superfuzz clones and, to me, they
 didn't make the grade.
 
 Bernie
 
 a
 n a l o g u e h a v e n : w a t t s o n c l a s s i c e l e
 c t r o n i c s  
   
     
    
     a
 n a l o g u e h a v e n : w a t t s o n c l a s s i c
 ...   capturing
 the precise tone of the original classic fuzz pedals from
 shin-ei and univox was our primary goal in designing the
 wattson classic fuzz fy-6.      
   
 
 View on www.analoguehaven...
     
 
 Preview by Yahoo    
    
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
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Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT - Wattson efy-6 fuzz

2016-03-29 by gino wong

With your permission Bernie. Depending on what you are doing compressors vary. If you want a noticeable compression to amp up your lead guitar sound and do the normal stuff, you could look at a Pigtronix Philosophers Tone. It is not the most subtle and true but its workmanlike for the guitar and one of the few circuits that are not copies of the MXR or Ross, If you go boutique there are builders that make great stuff but before you go there you should become a n FX Anorak, Otaku, Nerd. I don't use compressors much myself.

If you need a compressor for recording get an FMR RNC compressor or a Neve Portico or anything Fritz Doddy tells you to.

Re the Watson
I don't use any fuzz that scoops mids cause I'll want to put them back. If they are copying the Shin -E unit Aka Duo Fuzz or Super fuzz, those are classics. They only ever worked for me at volume when I could back off the ambienrt mics. It's all taste.

The best guitar pre - od in my opinion is the Super Gainiac made by Milos Popvic in Serbia at MP Custom FX. I cascade parallel or inverse switch my germanium od - pre with my silicon unit often, I now use a Germaniac by MP. I also have an extended hybrid transistor-diode, optical and diode selectable, octave, boost and sustain unit called Grunfiac. It is all boutique btw.

best

Gino



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On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Robert rmrmax@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi Bernie,

I tried to send you this link directly, but it seems that you no longer have the email
address that I used for you around 4 years ago.

One of the reasons I am considering this pedal is because the knobs are all on
the front. Do you think I'll be "ok" with this as opposed to the Wattson FY-6, or should I stay with your recommendation ?

Also, would you or anyone else care to recommend a current boutique Compressor / Sustainer pedal that is way better than the Boss CS-3 (recent vintage) that I already
have.

Thanks for your opinion(s)...

Robert

http://www.analoguehaven.com/wattsonclassicelectronics/efy-6/

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On Sat, 3/26/16, tron400@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Electroharmonix Mel9
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com: Saturday, March 26, 2016, 8:11 AM


I recommend the Wattson FY-6 Classic Fuzz. I have
one of the originals that was labeled "Superfuzz".
It looks and sounds exactly like my old bluish-grey Univox.
I've tried some other Superfuzz clones and, to me, they
didn't make the grade.

Bernie

a
n a l o g u e h a v e n : w a t t s o n c l a s s i c e l e
c t r o n i c s



a
n a l o g u e h a v e n : w a t t s o n c l a s s i c
... capturing
the precise tone of the original classic fuzz pedals from
shin-ei and univox was our primary goal in designing the
wattson classic fuzz fy-6.


View on www.analoguehaven...


Preview by Yahoo










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--
Gino Wong Birgelo BSComm, BSEE, PhP

ReRed Recording
Girard Hall Studios (ReRed Treehouse)
527 W. Girard Avenue
Philadelphia, PA 19123 USA
215 717 7059

Re: OT - Wattson efy-6 fuzz

2016-03-29 by guajian@yahoo.com

Hi Robert,

I changed my email a couple of days ago.

I saw the Analogue Haven ad for the EFY-6 and have been wondering about it myself. It's certainly cheaper than the FY-6, but I don't know anything about it. It sure sounds good in this video, though: Wattson Classic Electronics EFY-6 Fuzz

I don't use compressors, so I can't give you a recommendation. But if I did, I would follow Gino's recommendations.

Bernie

OT - Wattson efy-6 fuzz

2016-03-29 by Robert

Thanks for your suggestions, Gino.  I will look into all of them.

A little over a year ago, I purchased a Black Cat OD-Boost because I did not have an overdrive pedal and thought I would add one to the board.  I was surprised on how much I liked it; may because of the Boost.

When the subject came up about Fuzz pedals, it got me thinking because all I have is a EH Big Muff, and thought maybe there is something a lot better available.  To tell you the truth, I don't have a problem with it, but as everybody admits, it's all a matter of taste.

 
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On Tue, 3/29/16, gino wong wonggster@gmail.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
 Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] OT - Wattson efy-6 fuzz
 To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2016, 12:45 AM
       
       
       With your permission Bernie. 
 Depending on what you are doing compressors vary.  If you
 want a noticeable compression to amp up your lead guitar
 sound and do the normal stuff, you could look at a Pigtronix
 Philosophers Tone. It is not the most subtle and true but
 its workmanlike for the guitar and one of the few circuits
 that are not copies of the MXR or Ross, If you go boutique
 there are builders that make great stuff but before you go
 there you should become a n FX Anorak, Otaku, Nerd.  I
 don't use compressors much myself.
 If you need a compressor for
 recording get an FMR RNC compressor or a Neve Portico or
 anything Fritz Doddy tells you to. 
 Re the WatsonI don't
 use any fuzz that scoops mids cause I'll want to put
 them back. If they are copying the Shin -E unit  Aka Duo
 Fuzz or Super fuzz, those are classics. They only ever
 worked for me at volume when I could back off the ambienrt
 mics.  It's all taste.
 The best guitar pre - od in my
 opinion is the Super Gainiac made by Milos Popvic in
 Serbia at MP Custom FX.  I cascade parallel or inverse
 switch my germanium od - pre with my silicon unit often, I
 now use a Germaniac by MP.  I also have an extended
 hybrid transistor-diode, optical and diode
 selectable, octave, boost and sustain unit called
 Grunfiac.  It is all boutique btw. 
 best
 Gino
 
 
 
 On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at
 9:52 PM, Robert rmrmax@yahoo.com
 [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       Hi Bernie,
 
 
 
 I tried to send you this link directly, but it seems that
 you no longer have the email
 
 address that I used for you around 4 years ago. 
 
 
 
 One of the reasons I am considering this pedal is because
 the knobs are all on 
 
 the front.  Do you think I'll be "ok" with
 this as opposed to the Wattson FY-6, or should I stay with
 your recommendation ?
 
 
 
 Also, would you or anyone else care to recommend a current
 boutique Compressor / Sustainer pedal that is way better
 than the Boss CS-3 (recent vintage) that I already 
 
 have.
 
 
 
 Thanks for your opinion(s)...
 
 
 
 Robert
 
 
 
 http://www.analoguehaven.com/wattsonclassicelectronics/efy-6/
 
 
 
 --------------------------------------------
 
 On Sat, 3/26/16, tron400@yahoo.com
 [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Electroharmonix Mel9
 
  To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com:
 Saturday, March 26, 2016, 8:11 AM    
 
        
 
        
 
        I recommend the Wattson FY-6 Classic Fuzz. I have
 
  one of the originals that was labeled
 "Superfuzz".
 
  It looks and sounds exactly like my old bluish-grey
 Univox.
 
  I've tried some other Superfuzz clones and, to me,
 they
 
  didn't make the grade.
 
  
 
  Bernie
 
  
 
  a
 
  n a l o g u e h a v e n : w a t t s o n c l a s s i c e l
 e
 
  c t r o n i c s  
 
    
 
      
 
     
 
      a
 
  n a l o g u e h a v e n : w a t t s o n c l a s s i c
 
  ...   capturing
 
  the precise tone of the original classic fuzz pedals
 from
 
  shin-ei and univox was our primary goal in designing the
 
  wattson classic fuzz fy-6.      
 
    
 
  
 
  View on www.analoguehaven...
 
      
 
  
 
  Preview by Yahoo    
 
     
 
  
 
      
 
       
 
  
 
      
 
      
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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OT - Wattson efy-6 fuzz

2016-03-29 by Robert

Thanks, Bernie...  Maybe I will place a call to Analogue Haven...

Thanks,

Robert


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On Tue, 3/29/16, guajian@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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 Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: OT - Wattson efy-6 fuzz
 To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2016, 6:19 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       Hi Robert,
 
 I
 changed my email a couple of days ago.
 
 I saw the Analogue Haven ad for the EFY-6 and
 have been wondering about it myself. It's certainly
 cheaper than the FY-6, but I don't know anything about
 it. It sure sounds good in this video, though: Wattson
 Classic Electronics EFY-6 Fuzz  
   
     
    
     Wattson
 Classic Electronics EFY-6 Fuzz   $149.00
 http://www.prymaxevintage.com/wattson-classic-electronics-efy-6-fuzz/
 Wattson Classic Electronics EFY-6 Fuzz The Wattson EFY-6
 Fuzz is an enhanc...     
   
 
 
 View on www.youtube.com 
    
   
   
 
 Preview by Yahoo    
    I don't use
 compressors, so I can't give you a recommendation. But
 if I did, I would follow Gino's recommendations.
 
 Bernie
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
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Re: OT - Wattson efy-6 fuzz

2016-04-03 by Hank Smith

I agree about the Philosopher's Tone. Right now I've got mine set pretty extreme, and I use an Orange Squeezer (from Build YourOwn Clone) for subtler stuff.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: OT - Wattson efy-6 fuzz

2016-04-04 by gino wong

Ok, you use the compressor only as needed, I often put it in uncoventional places in the fx chain, I don't follow the orthodoxy of using it first every time

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On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Hank Smith millardnews@gmail.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>; wrote:

I agree about the Philosopher's Tone. Right now I've got mine set pretty extreme, and I use an Orange Squeezer (from Build YourOwn Clone) for subtler stuff.





--
Gino Wong Birgelo BSComm, BSEE, PhP

ReRed Recording
Girard Hall Studios (ReRed Treehouse)
527 W. Girard Avenue
Philadelphia, PA 19123 USA
215 717 7059

Re: OT - Wattson efy-6 fuzz

2016-04-05 by Berington Van Campen

Hi Gino, et al,
It's fine to experiment with your compressor placement; there's no hard rule as to what should go where in a signal chain. The "conventional wisdom" though, IF you're at all concerned with noise, is that anything in the chain before the compressor that creates "system noise" or anything else (Heaven help you if it's a distortion or overdrive!), will be exacerbated greatly and uncontrollably when it hits the compressor.  IF that's effect you want, absolutely go for it, but it may also be a good way to empty a club or cost you a session!  Just sayin'...  (-:

Cheers,Berington

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: OT - Wattson efy-6 fuzz

2016-04-05 by gino wong

That is true. Never do what I do if you expect to get paid. My last known use of a comressor outside of the house was in a loop by itself with a Gizmotron.

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On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Berington Van Campen vcmusicorp1@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi Gino, et al,

It's fine to experiment with your compressor placement; there's no hard rule as to what should go where in a signal chain. The "conventional wisdom" though, IF you're at all concerned with noise, is that anything in the chain before the compressor that creates ";system noise" or anything else (Heaven help you if it's a distortion or overdrive!), will be exacerbated greatly and uncontrollably when it hits the compressor. IF that's effect you want, absolutely go for it, but it may also be a good way to empty a club or cost you a session! Just sayin'... (-:

Cheers,
Berington




--
Gino Wong Birgelo BSComm, BSEE, PhP

ReRed Recording
Girard Hall Studios (ReRed Treehouse)
527 W. Girard Avenue
Philadelphia, PA 19123 USA
215 717 7059

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: OT - Wattson efy-6 fuzz

2016-04-05 by guajian@yahoo.com

I really don't understand the need for compressors in general. Other bass players have told me that a compressor is a must have for bass guitars, but I've never used one for bass because they seem to be nothing more than tools to cover up sloppy technique. I've tried compressors on my Mellotron and the only thing they do is introduce noise into the signal path. I think there must be a use for them simply because they exist in the professional recording world, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why.

Bernie

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: OT - Wattson efy-6 fuzz

2016-04-05 by John Wright

I use a lot of compression on my Rickenbacker 370/12. Gives it that extra "Byrds" sound.

John
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On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 3:06 PM, guajian@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I really don't understand the need for compressors in general. Other bass players have told me that a compressor is a must have for bass guitars, but I've never used one for bass because they seem to be nothing more than tools to cover up sloppy technique. I've tried compressors on my Mellotron and the only thing they do is introduce noise into the signal path. I think there must be a use for them simply because they exist in the professional recording world, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why.

Bernie


Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: OT - Wattson efy-6 fuzz

2016-04-05 by Fritz Doddy

Bernie, I'd be happy to show you how I use compressors..someday:)

They are an essential tool for me! Could not do what I do without them. That being said , I have never compressed a tron. No need to, unless you using it for effect. I love what compressors do for individual tracks and full mixes. I have 2 compressors just for bass. 

After compressors, EQ is my next favorite tool. Only when I have EQ and compression solved for a track do I think about artificial ambience and fx.


Sorry for the brevity, as I am replying from a remote region of iPhonekstan.
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> On Apr 5, 2016, at 12:06 PM, guajian@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> I really don't understand the need for compressors in general. Other bass players have told me that a compressor is a must have for bass guitars, but I've never used one for bass because they seem to be nothing more than tools to cover up sloppy technique. I've tried compressors on my Mellotron and the only thing they do is introduce noise into the signal path. I think there must be a use for them simply because they exist in the professional recording world, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why.
> 
> Bernie
> 
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