Sequential circuits samplers

Hi all

My first post but I think it is a bit of a tricky issue. I am trying 
to setup up a Doepfer Pocketdial to control the filter, envelope and 
LFO. The reason behind this is simply to defeat the one parameter at a 
time limitation of the 2k. However this is where things got tricky. I 
am not a midi genius. I am used to using cc numbers when mapping 
controllers. However the 2k does not seems to respond to all the 
appropriate CC nos. For example cc7 works for volume but 74 does not 
seem to work for filter cutoff. A quick check of the manual shows vast 
chunks of hexadecimal stuff around parameters. All over my head really.

So I suppose the question is, how can I work out which CCs correlate 
to each parameter, avoiding complete trial and error of course. 

If this is something that we can work out, I would of course be more 
than happy to post the resultant map.

Many thanks all

Craig

My recollection is that the P2000 does not support CCs except a few 
basics like vol, mod, pitchbend , see section 8 of the manual for 
MIDI ....you can download from the files section of this group ...the 
P2K was a very early MIDI device...you MIGHT be able to get sysex 
strings to do what you want , but you need a controller that can send 
sysex , like a Peavey 1600X, 

I'm content to do it from the Matrix and with the single dial, if you 
want the filter to move let the LFO do it 

hey those real analog filters and "stacked" samples are great, it's 
the only reason i keep this monstrosity

Peace 
Brian

>>I think you're right. Volume- pitchbend and mod might be its limits.<<

don't forget "aftertouch".... I think you can map channel pressure to
a couple of things... it's been a while, but I suspect it's mapped to
the same destination(s) as the mod wheel though.
[digs out manual...]
yes, controller numbers 01 (mod wheel), 02 (breath controller), 03
(channel pressure) & 04 (foot pedal) all seem to be mapped onto
whatever the mod wheel is doing. 
other recognised controllers are 07 (obviously- over-rides front panel
volume, which may not be so obvious), 40 (hold), 45 (alternate
release) & 7A (local on/off). these are all in hex. oh, & the usual
preset selection & pitch wheel.

it's limited, yes, but sometimes this is a good thing. for instance, I
made a lot of patches with velocity crossfades in them.....

>>For a 20 yr old sampler it still is great sounding.<<

it is, after all, almost equivalent to a prophet five in it's main
architecture, only with a sample-playback front-end instead of
oscillators. I have stacks of emu stuff, but the p2k & p2002 just
sound better. every time I load a floppy into it, I am amazed by the
musicality of the noise that comes out.

duncan.

I know this is an old thread but I was curious if it is possible to route say the filter 
frequency to the aftertouch or modwheel?  Or map the FF to any other controller(breath, 
footpedal) for that matter?  If so how would you do it?

Thanks
Brian



--- In prophet2000@yahoogroups.com, "ferrograph632" <ferrograph@...> wrote:

>
> >>I think you're right. Volume- pitchbend and mod might be its limits.<<
> 
> don't forget "aftertouch".... I think you can map channel pressure to
> a couple of things... it's been a while, but I suspect it's mapped to
> the same destination(s) as the mod wheel though.
> [digs out manual...]
> yes, controller numbers 01 (mod wheel), 02 (breath controller), 03
> (channel pressure) & 04 (foot pedal) all seem to be mapped onto
> whatever the mod wheel is doing. 
> other recognised controllers are 07 (obviously- over-rides front panel
> volume, which may not be so obvious), 40 (hold), 45 (alternate
> release) & 7A (local on/off). these are all in hex. oh, & the usual
> preset selection & pitch wheel.
> 
> it's limited, yes, but sometimes this is a good thing. for instance, I
> made a lot of patches with velocity crossfades in them.....
> 
> >>For a 20 yr old sampler it still is great sounding.<<
> 
> it is, after all, almost equivalent to a prophet five in it's main
> architecture, only with a sample-playback front-end instead of
> oscillators. I have stacks of emu stuff, but the p2k & p2002 just
> sound better. every time I load a floppy into it, I am amazed by the
> musicality of the noise that comes out.
> 
> duncan.
>

Brian 

the whole manual is in the Files section - I've read it several times, 
you should too !!

CC controllers are way limited on this sampler..that is disappointning 
and there is no magic for what it can not do.....but it is still a fun 
device.....that's why i keep mine, its more than nostalgia
 

Brian

skylab001 wrote:
 > I know this is an old thread but I was curious if it is possible to 
route say the filter frequency to the aftertouch or modwheel?  Or map 
the FF to any other controller(breath, footpedal) for that matter?  If 
so how would you do it?
 >
 > Thanks
 > Brian
 >

you can map FF to the modwheel, then just use modwheel cc to control the 
  filter. how to map FF->Modwheel mapping is in the manual

regards,
chris

StudioGroups wrote:
 > skylab001 wrote:
 >  > I know this is an old thread but I was curious if it is possible 
to route say the filter frequency to the aftertouch or modwheel?  Or map 
the FF to any other controller(breath, footpedal) for that matter?  If 
so how would you do it?
 >  >
 >  > Thanks
 >  > Brian
 >  >
 >
 > you can map FF to the modwheel, then just use modwheel cc to control 
the   filter. how to map FF->Modwheel mapping is in the manual
 >
 > regards,
 > chris
 >
.....actually, mapping isn't really the right word. should be.. set up the 
lfo to be controllable from the modwheel, set the lfo to filter 
frequency modulation, then set the lfo frequency to "dc"..

i think i remembered that right.. not used my 2000 in 2 years or so.

cheers,
chhris