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Re: Keyboard Outputs(again)

2005-11-07 by malik

aron you're a freakin genious!
i just set the track to both. wich is good anyway cause i will be 
recording midi into the tracl later for live use to trigger the 
loops in my external sequencer.

i find it better to do anything in the mp7.
if i could wrote a score in a text editor i'd make a song for you 
now! :P
thanks!

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
>
> Hmm, that sounds like it might be a bug.  Is the track that you're
> currently on (and therefore getting rechannelized/reported to) an
> "internal" track?  If it's not, that might be your problem (as that
> would theoretically cause the sysex to get reported out the back
> instead of to the internal synth.)
> 
> -Aaron x 32.
> 
> --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> 
> > dug this thread  back up. new problem.
> > it seems that when i have rechannelize inputs set to always my 
mp7 
> > wont receive sysex. it recievs the message just never actualy 
> > changes the multisetup(thats what i have the sysex set to do).
> > but if i have it off then it does work.
> > 
> > any ideas?
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > >
> > > lol was a cheer!!
> > > thanks!
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > Um, yes?
> > > > 
> > > > --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > > > > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > > > > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > > > > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito 
<synthesis77@y...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > You forgot the all-important "RECHANNELIZE INPUT To 
Track 
> > > Dest: 
> > > > > always"
> > > > > > parameter in the MIDI menu.  Make sure it's 
> > always "always".  
> > > =)  
> > > > > Turn
> > > > > > keyboard and knobs transmit MIDI to off.  Let the 
sequencer 
> > > reroute
> > > > > > stuff.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -Aaron
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > hmm no it doesnt matter if i have it set to internal 
or 
> > > external 
> > > > > it 
> > > > > > > still sends a messagee. whats going on here
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" 
<malik_martin@h...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > hmm well it seems that if i want the keyboard to 
send 
> > midi 
> > > out 
> > > > > i 
> > > > > > > > will always have to have keyboart utputs midi to 
> > transmit 
> > > and 
> > > > > use 
> > > > > > > > the channel assign feature to filter whats goin on 
> > > internaly.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > bummer
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" 
<malik_martin@h...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > contollers menu
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > keyboard channel = basic
> > > > > > > > > local control = on
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > midi menu
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > keyboard outputs midi = dont transmit
> > > > > > > > > knobs = dont transmit(just the quick edit knobs)
> > > > > > > > > midi enable = on for all channels
> > > > > > > > > midi mode = multi
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > pattern menu
> > > > > > > > > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > but i cant get it to transmit midi.
> > > > > > > > > i was trying to make a new multisetup lemme just 
trash 
> > > it 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > > > look 
> > > > > > > > > at a multisetup i use to control live.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > ok my normal setup
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > controllers menu
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > keyboard channel = basic
> > > > > > > > > local = on
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > midi menu
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > keyboard outputs midi = transmit(hmmmm)
> > > > > > > > > lnobs = dont transmit
> > > > > > > > > midi mode = multi
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > pattern menu
> > > > > > > > > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > wierd why did this setup work before? even all the 
> > > channels 
> > > > > set 
> > > > > > > to 
> > > > > > > > > internal still send ext messages when i play on 
them.
> > > > > > > > > what's going on here...
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > also i had searched but i couldnt find that thread 
> > where 
> > > you 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > > aaron had displayed all the sysex mapping.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" 
<smw-
> > > > > mail@p...> 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" 
> > > <malik_martin@h...> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > [snip]
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > does this mean that i can turn it off and just 
use 
> > a 
> > > > > preset 
> > > > > > > > > > setting?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > What do you mean in the above sentence when you 
> > > say "it"?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > If you mean "all that non-knob midi data going 
to 
> > > external 
> > > > > > > > gear," 
> > > > > > > > > > the answer is yes. However, I am not sure this 
is 
> > > > > what "it" 
> > > > > > > > really 
> > > > > > > > > > means.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > If I am right, I hope the following helps:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > If all that data is not routed to port A or port 
B, 
> > > your 
> > > > > built-
> > > > > > > > in 
> > > > > > > > > > controllers only affect the internal synth 
engine, 
> > but 
> > > if 
> > > > > your 
> > > > > > > > > > sequencer is setup to go out port A or port B, 
it 
> > will 
> > > > > still 
> > > > > > > go 
> > > > > > > > > out 
> > > > > > > > > > to external gear.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > You have the options to (1) transmit/not 
transmit 
> > > keyboard 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > > other 
> > > > > > > > > > non-knob on-board controller data and (2) 
> > transmit/not 
> > > > > > > transmit 
> > > > > > > > > knob 
> > > > > > > > > > controller data.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > There's another function--locaL ON/OFF.  Well, 
think 
> > > of 
> > > > > > > KEYBOARD 
> > > > > > > > > > OUTPUTS MIDI as LOCAL ONLY (if you have 
KEYBOARDS 
> > [and 
> > > the 
> > > > > > > other 
> > > > > > > > > > local non-knob controllers] OUTPUTS MIDI = don't 
> > > transmit.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Same thing with KNOBS MIDI OUT.  Think of it as 
> > LOCAL 
> > > ONLY 
> > > > > for 
> > > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > > knobs.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > BOTTOM LINE:  I think of it as: I got my tunes 
going 
> > > to 
> > > > > > > internal 
> > > > > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > > > external gear and I want to play along, but I 
don't 
> > > want 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > built-
> > > > > > > > > > in stuff (other than the sequencer) going to the 
> > > external 
> > > > > gear 
> > > > > > > > > > connected to midi ports a and b.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > --Steve
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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