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hi again just have a question i took this directly from the manual.
"This option allows you select whether or not the keypad, touchstrip, 
and
footswitch data is transmitted on MIDI output port A or B. When this
option is set to: "don't transmit", the keypads, touchstrip, and 
footswitch
only control the "current" preset. (The current preset is the one 
currently
showing in the Preset View window). Touchstrip data is transmitted as 
the
Pitch Wheel controller. Footswitches are transmitted on the MIDI CC
numbers defined for Footswitch 1 & 2 in the Controllers menu."



does this mean that i can turn it off and just use a preset setting?

to send keyboard messages

hmm from looking in the preset menu probably no. damn why do i keep 
doing this!!

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> to send keyboard messages

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:

[snip]

> does this mean that i can turn it off and just use a preset 
setting?

What do you mean in the above sentence when you say "it"?

If you mean "all that non-knob midi data going to external gear," 
the answer is yes. However, I am not sure this is what "it" really 
means.

If I am right, I hope the following helps:

If all that data is not routed to port A or port B, your built-in 
controllers only affect the internal synth engine, but if your 
sequencer is setup to go out port A or port B, it will still go out 
to external gear.

You have the options to (1) transmit/not transmit keyboard and other 
non-knob on-board controller data and (2) transmit/not transmit knob 
controller data.

There's another function--locaL ON/OFF.  Well, think of KEYBOARD 
OUTPUTS MIDI as LOCAL ONLY (if you have KEYBOARDS [and the other 
local non-knob controllers] OUTPUTS MIDI = don't transmit.

Same thing with KNOBS MIDI OUT.  Think of it as LOCAL ONLY for the 
knobs.

BOTTOM LINE:  I think of it as: I got my tunes going to internal and 
external gear and I want to play along, but I don't want the built-
in stuff (other than the sequencer) going to the external gear 
connected to midi ports a and b.

Hope this helps.

--Steve

contollers menu
 
keyboard channel = basic
local control = on

midi menu

keyboard outputs midi = dont transmit
knobs = dont transmit(just the quick edit knobs)
midi enable = on for all channels
midi mode = multi

pattern menu
channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)

but i cant get it to transmit midi.
i was trying to make a new multisetup lemme just trash it and look 
at a multisetup i use to control live.

ok my normal setup

controllers menu

keyboard channel = basic
local = on

midi menu

keyboard outputs midi = transmit(hmmmm)
lnobs = dont transmit
midi mode = multi

pattern menu
channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)


wierd why did this setup work before? even all the channels set to 
internal still send ext messages when i play on them.
what's going on here...

also i had searched but i couldnt find that thread where you and 
aaron had displayed all the sysex mapping.



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
wrote:
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > does this mean that i can turn it off and just use a preset 
> setting?
> 
> What do you mean in the above sentence when you say "it"?
> 
> If you mean "all that non-knob midi data going to external gear," 
> the answer is yes. However, I am not sure this is what "it" really 
> means.
> 
> If I am right, I hope the following helps:
> 
> If all that data is not routed to port A or port B, your built-in 
> controllers only affect the internal synth engine, but if your 
> sequencer is setup to go out port A or port B, it will still go 
out 
> to external gear.
> 
> You have the options to (1) transmit/not transmit keyboard and 
other 
> non-knob on-board controller data and (2) transmit/not transmit 
knob 
> controller data.
> 
> There's another function--locaL ON/OFF.  Well, think of KEYBOARD 
> OUTPUTS MIDI as LOCAL ONLY (if you have KEYBOARDS [and the other 
> local non-knob controllers] OUTPUTS MIDI = don't transmit.
> 
> Same thing with KNOBS MIDI OUT.  Think of it as LOCAL ONLY for the 
> knobs.
> 
> BOTTOM LINE:  I think of it as: I got my tunes going to internal 
and 

> external gear and I want to play along, but I don't want the built-
> in stuff (other than the sequencer) going to the external gear 
> connected to midi ports a and b.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> --Steve

hmm well it seems that if i want the keyboard to send midi out i 
will always have to have keyboart utputs midi to transmit and use 
the channel assign feature to filter whats goin on internaly.

bummer

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> contollers menu
>  
> keyboard channel = basic
> local control = on
> 
> midi menu
> 
> keyboard outputs midi = dont transmit
> knobs = dont transmit(just the quick edit knobs)
> midi enable = on for all channels
> midi mode = multi
> 
> pattern menu
> channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> 
> but i cant get it to transmit midi.
> i was trying to make a new multisetup lemme just trash it and look 
> at a multisetup i use to control live.
> 
> ok my normal setup
> 
> controllers menu
> 
> keyboard channel = basic
> local = on
> 
> midi menu
> 
> keyboard outputs midi = transmit(hmmmm)
> lnobs = dont transmit
> midi mode = multi
> 
> pattern menu
> channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> 
> 
> wierd why did this setup work before? even all the channels set to 
> internal still send ext messages when i play on them.
> what's going on here...
> 
> also i had searched but i couldnt find that thread where you and 
> aaron had displayed all the sysex mapping.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
> wrote:
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > > does this mean that i can turn it off and just use a preset 
> > setting?
> > 
> > What do you mean in the above sentence when you say "it"?
> > 
> > If you mean "all that non-knob midi data going to external 
gear," 
> > the answer is yes. However, I am not sure this is what "it" 
really 
> > means.
> > 
> > If I am right, I hope the following helps:
> > 
> > If all that data is not routed to port A or port B, your built-
in 
> > controllers only affect the internal synth engine, but if your 
> > sequencer is setup to go out port A or port B, it will still go 
> out 
> > to external gear.
> > 
> > You have the options to (1) transmit/not transmit keyboard and 
> other 
> > non-knob on-board controller data and (2) transmit/not transmit 
> knob 
> > controller data.
> > 
> > There's another function--locaL ON/OFF.  Well, think of KEYBOARD 
> > OUTPUTS MIDI as LOCAL ONLY (if you have KEYBOARDS [and the other 
> > local non-knob controllers] OUTPUTS MIDI = don't transmit.
> > 
> > Same thing with KNOBS MIDI OUT.  Think of it as LOCAL ONLY for 
the 
> > knobs.
> > 
> > BOTTOM LINE:  I think of it as: I got my tunes going to internal 
> and 
> > external gear and I want to play along, but I don't want the 
built-

> > in stuff (other than the sequencer) going to the external gear 
> > connected to midi ports a and b.
> > 
> > Hope this helps.
> > 
> > --Steve

hmm no it doesnt matter if i have it set to internal or external it 
still sends a messagee. whats going on here


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> hmm well it seems that if i want the keyboard to send midi out i 
> will always have to have keyboart utputs midi to transmit and use 
> the channel assign feature to filter whats goin on internaly.
> 
> bummer
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > contollers menu
> >  
> > keyboard channel = basic
> > local control = on
> > 
> > midi menu
> > 
> > keyboard outputs midi = dont transmit
> > knobs = dont transmit(just the quick edit knobs)
> > midi enable = on for all channels
> > midi mode = multi
> > 
> > pattern menu
> > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > 
> > but i cant get it to transmit midi.
> > i was trying to make a new multisetup lemme just trash it and 
look 
> > at a multisetup i use to control live.
> > 
> > ok my normal setup
> > 
> > controllers menu
> > 
> > keyboard channel = basic
> > local = on
> > 
> > midi menu
> > 
> > keyboard outputs midi = transmit(hmmmm)
> > lnobs = dont transmit
> > midi mode = multi
> > 
> > pattern menu
> > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > 
> > 
> > wierd why did this setup work before? even all the channels set 
to 
> > internal still send ext messages when i play on them.
> > what's going on here...
> > 
> > also i had searched but i couldnt find that thread where you and 
> > aaron had displayed all the sysex mapping.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > [snip]
> > > 
> > > > does this mean that i can turn it off and just use a preset 
> > > setting?
> > > 
> > > What do you mean in the above sentence when you say "it"?
> > > 
> > > If you mean "all that non-knob midi data going to external 
> gear," 
> > > the answer is yes. However, I am not sure this is what "it" 
> really 
> > > means.
> > > 
> > > If I am right, I hope the following helps:
> > > 
> > > If all that data is not routed to port A or port B, your built-
> in 
> > > controllers only affect the internal synth engine, but if your 
> > > sequencer is setup to go out port A or port B, it will still 
go 
> > out 
> > > to external gear.
> > > 
> > > You have the options to (1) transmit/not transmit keyboard and 
> > other 
> > > non-knob on-board controller data and (2) transmit/not 
transmit 
> > knob 
> > > controller data.
> > > 
> > > There's another function--locaL ON/OFF.  Well, think of 
KEYBOARD 
> > > OUTPUTS MIDI as LOCAL ONLY (if you have KEYBOARDS [and the 
other 
> > > local non-knob controllers] OUTPUTS MIDI = don't transmit.
> > > 
> > > Same thing with KNOBS MIDI OUT.  Think of it as LOCAL ONLY for 
> the 
> > > knobs.
> > > 
> > > BOTTOM LINE:  I think of it as: I got my tunes going to 
internal 

> > and 
> > > external gear and I want to play along, but I don't want the 
> built-
> > > in stuff (other than the sequencer) going to the external gear 
> > > connected to midi ports a and b.
> > > 
> > > Hope this helps.
> > > 
> > > --Steve

You forgot the all-important "RECHANNELIZE INPUT To Track Dest: always"
parameter in the MIDI menu.  Make sure it's always "always".  =)  Turn
keyboard and knobs transmit MIDI to off.  Let the sequencer reroute
stuff.

-Aaron

--- malik <malik_martin@...> wrote:

> hmm no it doesnt matter if i have it set to internal or external it 
> still sends a messagee. whats going on here
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > hmm well it seems that if i want the keyboard to send midi out i 
> > will always have to have keyboart utputs midi to transmit and use 
> > the channel assign feature to filter whats goin on internaly.
> > 
> > bummer
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > contollers menu
> > >  
> > > keyboard channel = basic
> > > local control = on
> > > 
> > > midi menu
> > > 
> > > keyboard outputs midi = dont transmit
> > > knobs = dont transmit(just the quick edit knobs)
> > > midi enable = on for all channels
> > > midi mode = multi
> > > 
> > > pattern menu
> > > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > > 
> > > but i cant get it to transmit midi.
> > > i was trying to make a new multisetup lemme just trash it and 
> look 
> > > at a multisetup i use to control live.
> > > 
> > > ok my normal setup
> > > 
> > > controllers menu
> > > 
> > > keyboard channel = basic
> > > local = on
> > > 
> > > midi menu
> > > 
> > > keyboard outputs midi = transmit(hmmmm)
> > > lnobs = dont transmit
> > > midi mode = multi
> > > 
> > > pattern menu
> > > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > wierd why did this setup work before? even all the channels set 
> to 
> > > internal still send ext messages when i play on them.
> > > what's going on here...
> > > 
> > > also i had searched but i couldnt find that thread where you and 
> > > aaron had displayed all the sysex mapping.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > [snip]
> > > > 
> > > > > does this mean that i can turn it off and just use a preset 
> > > > setting?
> > > > 
> > > > What do you mean in the above sentence when you say "it"?
> > > > 
> > > > If you mean "all that non-knob midi data going to external 
> > gear," 
> > > > the answer is yes. However, I am not sure this is what "it" 
> > really 
> > > > means.
> > > > 
> > > > If I am right, I hope the following helps:
> > > > 
> > > > If all that data is not routed to port A or port B, your built-
> > in 
> > > > controllers only affect the internal synth engine, but if your 
> > > > sequencer is setup to go out port A or port B, it will still 
> go 
> > > out 
> > > > to external gear.
> > > > 
> > > > You have the options to (1) transmit/not transmit keyboard and 
> > > other 
> > > > non-knob on-board controller data and (2) transmit/not 
> transmit 
> > > knob 
> > > > controller data.
> > > > 
> > > > There's another function--locaL ON/OFF.  Well, think of 
> KEYBOARD 
> > > > OUTPUTS MIDI as LOCAL ONLY (if you have KEYBOARDS [and the 
> other 
> > > > local non-knob controllers] OUTPUTS MIDI = don't transmit.
> > > > 
> > > > Same thing with KNOBS MIDI OUT.  Think of it as LOCAL ONLY for 
> > the 
> > > > knobs.
> > > > 
> > > > BOTTOM LINE:  I think of it as: I got my tunes going to 
> internal 
> > > and 
> > > > external gear and I want to play along, but I don't want the 
> > built-
> > > > in stuff (other than the sequencer) going to the external gear 
> > > > connected to midi ports a and b.
> > > > 
> > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > 
> > > > --Steve
> 
> 
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interesting!! never tried that but was thinking about it. will have to check 
that out wheni get back from work cause im getting ready to go now. thanks!!

>From: Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...>
>Reply-To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Keyboard Outputs(again)
>Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:19:03 -0700 (PDT)
>
>You forgot the all-important "RECHANNELIZE INPUT To Track Dest: always"
>parameter in the MIDI menu.  Make sure it's always "always".  =)  Turn
>keyboard and knobs transmit MIDI to off.  Let the sequencer reroute
>stuff.
>
>-Aaron
>
>--- malik <malik_martin@...> wrote:
>
> > hmm no it doesnt matter if i have it set to internal or external it
> > still sends a messagee. whats going on here
> >
> >
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > hmm well it seems that if i want the keyboard to send midi out i
> > > will always have to have keyboart utputs midi to transmit and use
> > > the channel assign feature to filter whats goin on internaly.
> > >
> > > bummer
> > >
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > > contollers menu
> > > >
> > > > keyboard channel = basic
> > > > local control = on
> > > >
> > > > midi menu
> > > >
> > > > keyboard outputs midi = dont transmit
> > > > knobs = dont transmit(just the quick edit knobs)
> > > > midi enable = on for all channels
> > > > midi mode = multi
> > > >
> > > > pattern menu
> > > > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > > >
> > > > but i cant get it to transmit midi.
> > > > i was trying to make a new multisetup lemme just trash it and
> > look
> > > > at a multisetup i use to control live.
> > > >
> > > > ok my normal setup
> > > >
> > > > controllers menu
> > > >
> > > > keyboard channel = basic
> > > > local = on
> > > >
> > > > midi menu
> > > >
> > > > keyboard outputs midi = transmit(hmmmm)
> > > > lnobs = dont transmit
> > > > midi mode = multi
> > > >
> > > > pattern menu
> > > > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > wierd why did this setup work before? even all the channels set
> > to
> > > > internal still send ext messages when i play on them.
> > > > what's going on here...
> > > >
> > > > also i had searched but i couldnt find that thread where you and
> > > > aaron had displayed all the sysex mapping.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > [snip]
> > > > >
> > > > > > does this mean that i can turn it off and just use a preset
> > > > > setting?
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you mean in the above sentence when you say "it"?
> > > > >
> > > > > If you mean "all that non-knob midi data going to external
> > > gear,"
> > > > > the answer is yes. However, I am not sure this is what "it"
> > > really
> > > > > means.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I am right, I hope the following helps:
> > > > >
> > > > > If all that data is not routed to port A or port B, your built-
> > > in
> > > > > controllers only affect the internal synth engine, but if your
> > > > > sequencer is setup to go out port A or port B, it will still
> > go
> > > > out
> > > > > to external gear.
> > > > >
> > > > > You have the options to (1) transmit/not transmit keyboard and
> > > > other
> > > > > non-knob on-board controller data and (2) transmit/not
> > transmit
> > > > knob
> > > > > controller data.
> > > > >
> > > > > There's another function--locaL ON/OFF.  Well, think of
> > KEYBOARD
> > > > > OUTPUTS MIDI as LOCAL ONLY (if you have KEYBOARDS [and the
> > other
> > > > > local non-knob controllers] OUTPUTS MIDI = don't transmit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Same thing with KNOBS MIDI OUT.  Think of it as LOCAL ONLY for
> > > the
> > > > > knobs.
> > > > >
> > > > > BOTTOM LINE:  I think of it as: I got my tunes going to
> > internal
> > > > and
> > > > > external gear and I want to play along, but I don't want the
> > > built-
> > > > > in stuff (other than the sequencer) going to the external gear
> > > > > connected to midi ports a and b.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > >
> > > > > --Steve
> >
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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> You forgot the all-important "RECHANNELIZE INPUT To Track Dest: 
always"
> parameter in the MIDI menu.  Make sure it's always "always".  =)  
Turn
> keyboard and knobs transmit MIDI to off.  Let the sequencer reroute
> stuff.
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> 
> > hmm no it doesnt matter if i have it set to internal or external 
it 
> > still sends a messagee. whats going on here
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > hmm well it seems that if i want the keyboard to send midi out 
i 
> > > will always have to have keyboart utputs midi to transmit and 
use 
> > > the channel assign feature to filter whats goin on internaly.
> > > 
> > > bummer
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > > contollers menu
> > > >  
> > > > keyboard channel = basic
> > > > local control = on
> > > > 
> > > > midi menu
> > > > 
> > > > keyboard outputs midi = dont transmit
> > > > knobs = dont transmit(just the quick edit knobs)
> > > > midi enable = on for all channels
> > > > midi mode = multi
> > > > 
> > > > pattern menu
> > > > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > > > 
> > > > but i cant get it to transmit midi.
> > > > i was trying to make a new multisetup lemme just trash it 
and 
> > look 
> > > > at a multisetup i use to control live.
> > > > 
> > > > ok my normal setup
> > > > 
> > > > controllers menu
> > > > 
> > > > keyboard channel = basic
> > > > local = on
> > > > 
> > > > midi menu
> > > > 
> > > > keyboard outputs midi = transmit(hmmmm)
> > > > lnobs = dont transmit
> > > > midi mode = multi
> > > > 
> > > > pattern menu
> > > > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > wierd why did this setup work before? even all the channels 
set 
> > to 
> > > > internal still send ext messages when i play on them.
> > > > what's going on here...
> > > > 
> > > > also i had searched but i couldnt find that thread where you 
and 
> > > > aaron had displayed all the sysex mapping.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-
mail@p...> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> 
wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > [snip]
> > > > > 
> > > > > > does this mean that i can turn it off and just use a 
preset 
> > > > > setting?
> > > > > 
> > > > > What do you mean in the above sentence when you say "it"?
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you mean "all that non-knob midi data going to external 
> > > gear," 
> > > > > the answer is yes. However, I am not sure this is 
what "it" 
> > > really 
> > > > > means.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If I am right, I hope the following helps:
> > > > > 
> > > > > If all that data is not routed to port A or port B, your 
built-
> > > in 
> > > > > controllers only affect the internal synth engine, but if 
your 
> > > > > sequencer is setup to go out port A or port B, it will 
still 
> > go 
> > > > out 
> > > > > to external gear.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You have the options to (1) transmit/not transmit keyboard 
and 
> > > > other 
> > > > > non-knob on-board controller data and (2) transmit/not 
> > transmit 
> > > > knob 
> > > > > controller data.
> > > > > 
> > > > > There's another function--locaL ON/OFF.  Well, think of 
> > KEYBOARD 
> > > > > OUTPUTS MIDI as LOCAL ONLY (if you have KEYBOARDS [and the 
> > other 
> > > > > local non-knob controllers] OUTPUTS MIDI = don't transmit.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Same thing with KNOBS MIDI OUT.  Think of it as LOCAL ONLY 
for 
> > > the 
> > > > > knobs.
> > > > > 
> > > > > BOTTOM LINE:  I think of it as: I got my tunes going to 
> > internal 
> > > > and 
> > > > > external gear and I want to play along, but I don't want 
the 
> > > built-
> > > > > in stuff (other than the sequencer) going to the external 
gear 
> > > > > connected to midi ports a and b.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --Steve
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Um, yes?

--- malik <malik_martin@...> wrote:

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> AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> > You forgot the all-important "RECHANNELIZE INPUT To Track Dest: 
> always"
> > parameter in the MIDI menu.  Make sure it's always "always".  =)  
> Turn
> > keyboard and knobs transmit MIDI to off.  Let the sequencer reroute
> > stuff.
> > 
> > -Aaron
> > 
> > --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > 
> > > hmm no it doesnt matter if i have it set to internal or external 
> it 
> > > still sends a messagee. whats going on here
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > > hmm well it seems that if i want the keyboard to send midi out 
> i 
> > > > will always have to have keyboart utputs midi to transmit and 
> use 
> > > > the channel assign feature to filter whats goin on internaly.
> > > > 
> > > > bummer
> > > > 
> > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > > > contollers menu
> > > > >  
> > > > > keyboard channel = basic
> > > > > local control = on
> > > > > 
> > > > > midi menu
> > > > > 
> > > > > keyboard outputs midi = dont transmit
> > > > > knobs = dont transmit(just the quick edit knobs)
> > > > > midi enable = on for all channels
> > > > > midi mode = multi
> > > > > 
> > > > > pattern menu
> > > > > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > > > > 
> > > > > but i cant get it to transmit midi.
> > > > > i was trying to make a new multisetup lemme just trash it 
> and 
> > > look 
> > > > > at a multisetup i use to control live.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ok my normal setup
> > > > > 
> > > > > controllers menu
> > > > > 
> > > > > keyboard channel = basic
> > > > > local = on
> > > > > 
> > > > > midi menu
> > > > > 
> > > > > keyboard outputs midi = transmit(hmmmm)
> > > > > lnobs = dont transmit
> > > > > midi mode = multi
> > > > > 
> > > > > pattern menu
> > > > > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > wierd why did this setup work before? even all the channels 
> set 
> > > to 
> > > > > internal still send ext messages when i play on them.
> > > > > what's going on here...
> > > > > 
> > > > > also i had searched but i couldnt find that thread where you 
> and 
> > > > > aaron had displayed all the sysex mapping.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-
> mail@p...> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> 
> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > [snip]
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > does this mean that i can turn it off and just use a 
> preset 
> > > > > > setting?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What do you mean in the above sentence when you say "it"?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If you mean "all that non-knob midi data going to external 
> > > > gear," 
> > > > > > the answer is yes. However, I am not sure this is 
> what "it" 
> > > > really 
> > > > > > means.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If I am right, I hope the following helps:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If all that data is not routed to port A or port B, your 
> built-
> > > > in 
> > > > > > controllers only affect the internal synth engine, but if 
> your 
> > > > > > sequencer is setup to go out port A or port B, it will 
> still 
> > > go 
> > > > > out 
> > > > > > to external gear.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You have the options to (1) transmit/not transmit keyboard 
> and 
> > > > > other 
> > > > > > non-knob on-board controller data and (2) transmit/not 
> > > transmit 
> > > > > knob 
> > > > > > controller data.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > There's another function--locaL ON/OFF.  Well, think of 
> > > KEYBOARD 
> > > > > > OUTPUTS MIDI as LOCAL ONLY (if you have KEYBOARDS [and the 
> > > other 
> > > > > > local non-knob controllers] OUTPUTS MIDI = don't transmit.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Same thing with KNOBS MIDI OUT.  Think of it as LOCAL ONLY 
> for 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > knobs.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > BOTTOM LINE:  I think of it as: I got my tunes going to 
> > > internal 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > > external gear and I want to play along, but I don't want 
> the 
> > > > built-
> > > > > > in stuff (other than the sequencer) going to the external 
> gear 
> > > > > > connected to midi ports a and b.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --Steve



		
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lol was a cheer!!
thanks!

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> Um, yes?
> 
> --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> 
> > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> 
wrote:
> > > You forgot the all-important "RECHANNELIZE INPUT To Track 
Dest: 
> > always"
> > > parameter in the MIDI menu.  Make sure it's always "always".  
=)  
> > Turn
> > > keyboard and knobs transmit MIDI to off.  Let the sequencer 
reroute
> > > stuff.
> > > 
> > > -Aaron
> > > 
> > > --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > hmm no it doesnt matter if i have it set to internal or 
external 
> > it 
> > > > still sends a messagee. whats going on here
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> 
wrote:
> > > > > hmm well it seems that if i want the keyboard to send midi 
out 
> > i 
> > > > > will always have to have keyboart utputs midi to transmit 
and 
> > use 
> > > > > the channel assign feature to filter whats goin on 
internaly.
> > > > > 
> > > > > bummer
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> 
wrote:
> > > > > > contollers menu
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > keyboard channel = basic
> > > > > > local control = on
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > midi menu
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > keyboard outputs midi = dont transmit
> > > > > > knobs = dont transmit(just the quick edit knobs)
> > > > > > midi enable = on for all channels
> > > > > > midi mode = multi
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > pattern menu
> > > > > > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > but i cant get it to transmit midi.
> > > > > > i was trying to make a new multisetup lemme just trash 
it 
> > and 
> > > > look 
> > > > > > at a multisetup i use to control live.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ok my normal setup
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > controllers menu
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > keyboard channel = basic
> > > > > > local = on
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > midi menu
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > keyboard outputs midi = transmit(hmmmm)
> > > > > > lnobs = dont transmit
> > > > > > midi mode = multi
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > pattern menu
> > > > > > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > wierd why did this setup work before? even all the 
channels 
> > set 
> > > > to 
> > > > > > internal still send ext messages when i play on them.
> > > > > > what's going on here...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > also i had searched but i couldnt find that thread where 
you 
> > and 
> > > > > > aaron had displayed all the sysex mapping.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-
> > mail@p...> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" 
<malik_martin@h...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > [snip]
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > does this mean that i can turn it off and just use a 
> > preset 
> > > > > > > setting?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > What do you mean in the above sentence when you 
say "it"?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > If you mean "all that non-knob midi data going to 
external 
> > > > > gear," 
> > > > > > > the answer is yes. However, I am not sure this is 
> > what "it" 
> > > > > really 
> > > > > > > means.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > If I am right, I hope the following helps:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > If all that data is not routed to port A or port B, 
your 
> > built-
> > > > > in 
> > > > > > > controllers only affect the internal synth engine, but 
if 
> > your 
> > > > > > > sequencer is setup to go out port A or port B, it will 
> > still 
> > > > go 
> > > > > > out 
> > > > > > > to external gear.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > You have the options to (1) transmit/not transmit 
keyboard 
> > and 
> > > > > > other 
> > > > > > > non-knob on-board controller data and (2) transmit/not 
> > > > transmit 
> > > > > > knob 
> > > > > > > controller data.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > There's another function--locaL ON/OFF.  Well, think 
of 
> > > > KEYBOARD 
> > > > > > > OUTPUTS MIDI as LOCAL ONLY (if you have KEYBOARDS [and 
the 
> > > > other 
> > > > > > > local non-knob controllers] OUTPUTS MIDI = don't 
transmit.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Same thing with KNOBS MIDI OUT.  Think of it as LOCAL 
ONLY 
> > for 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > > knobs.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > BOTTOM LINE:  I think of it as: I got my tunes going 
to 
> > > > internal 
> > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > external gear and I want to play along, but I don't 
want 
> > the 
> > > > > built-
> > > > > > > in stuff (other than the sequencer) going to the 
external 

> > gear 
> > > > > > > connected to midi ports a and b.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 		
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dug this thread  back up. new problem.
it seems that when i have rechannelize inputs set to always my mp7 
wont receive sysex. it recievs the message just never actualy 
changes the multisetup(thats what i have the sysex set to do).
but if i have it off then it does work.

any ideas?


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
>
> lol was a cheer!!
> thanks!
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> 
wrote:
> > Um, yes?
> > 
> > --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > 
> > > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> 
> wrote:
> > > > You forgot the all-important "RECHANNELIZE INPUT To Track 
> Dest: 
> > > always"
> > > > parameter in the MIDI menu.  Make sure it's 
always "always".  
> =)  
> > > Turn
> > > > keyboard and knobs transmit MIDI to off.  Let the sequencer 
> reroute
> > > > stuff.
> > > > 
> > > > -Aaron
> > > > 
> > > > --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > hmm no it doesnt matter if i have it set to internal or 
> external 
> > > it 
> > > > > still sends a messagee. whats going on here
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> 
> wrote:
> > > > > > hmm well it seems that if i want the keyboard to send 
midi 
> out 
> > > i 
> > > > > > will always have to have keyboart utputs midi to 
transmit 
> and 
> > > use 
> > > > > > the channel assign feature to filter whats goin on 
> internaly.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > bummer
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> 
> wrote:
> > > > > > > contollers menu
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > keyboard channel = basic
> > > > > > > local control = on
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > midi menu
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > keyboard outputs midi = dont transmit
> > > > > > > knobs = dont transmit(just the quick edit knobs)
> > > > > > > midi enable = on for all channels
> > > > > > > midi mode = multi
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > pattern menu
> > > > > > > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > but i cant get it to transmit midi.
> > > > > > > i was trying to make a new multisetup lemme just trash 
> it 
> > > and 
> > > > > look 
> > > > > > > at a multisetup i use to control live.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ok my normal setup
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > controllers menu
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > keyboard channel = basic
> > > > > > > local = on
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > midi menu
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > keyboard outputs midi = transmit(hmmmm)
> > > > > > > lnobs = dont transmit
> > > > > > > midi mode = multi
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > pattern menu
> > > > > > > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > wierd why did this setup work before? even all the 
> channels 
> > > set 
> > > > > to 
> > > > > > > internal still send ext messages when i play on them.
> > > > > > > what's going on here...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > also i had searched but i couldnt find that thread 
where 
> you 
> > > and 
> > > > > > > aaron had displayed all the sysex mapping.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-
> > > mail@p...> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" 
> <malik_martin@h...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > [snip]
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > does this mean that i can turn it off and just use 
a 
> > > preset 
> > > > > > > > setting?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > What do you mean in the above sentence when you 
> say "it"?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > If you mean "all that non-knob midi data going to 
> external 
> > > > > > gear," 
> > > > > > > > the answer is yes. However, I am not sure this is 
> > > what "it" 
> > > > > > really 
> > > > > > > > means.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > If I am right, I hope the following helps:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > If all that data is not routed to port A or port B, 
> your 
> > > built-
> > > > > > in 
> > > > > > > > controllers only affect the internal synth engine, 
but 
> if 
> > > your 
> > > > > > > > sequencer is setup to go out port A or port B, it 
will 
> > > still 
> > > > > go 
> > > > > > > out 
> > > > > > > > to external gear.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > You have the options to (1) transmit/not transmit 
> keyboard 
> > > and 
> > > > > > > other 
> > > > > > > > non-knob on-board controller data and (2) 
transmit/not 
> > > > > transmit 
> > > > > > > knob 
> > > > > > > > controller data.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > There's another function--locaL ON/OFF.  Well, think 
> of 
> > > > > KEYBOARD 
> > > > > > > > OUTPUTS MIDI as LOCAL ONLY (if you have KEYBOARDS 
[and 
> the 
> > > > > other 
> > > > > > > > local non-knob controllers] OUTPUTS MIDI = don't 
> transmit.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Same thing with KNOBS MIDI OUT.  Think of it as 
LOCAL 

> ONLY 
> > > for 
> > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > knobs.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > BOTTOM LINE:  I think of it as: I got my tunes going 
> to 
> > > > > internal 
> > > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > external gear and I want to play along, but I don't 
> want 
> > > the 
> > > > > > built-
> > > > > > > > in stuff (other than the sequencer) going to the 
> external 
> > > gear 
> > > > > > > > connected to midi ports a and b.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --Steve
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 		
> > __________________________________ 
> > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
>

Hmm, that sounds like it might be a bug.  Is the track that you're
currently on (and therefore getting rechannelized/reported to) an
"internal" track?  If it's not, that might be your problem (as that
would theoretically cause the sysex to get reported out the back
instead of to the internal synth.)

-Aaron x 32.

--- malik <malik_martin@...> wrote:

> dug this thread  back up. new problem.
> it seems that when i have rechannelize inputs set to always my mp7 
> wont receive sysex. it recievs the message just never actualy 
> changes the multisetup(thats what i have the sysex set to do).
> but if i have it off then it does work.
> 
> any ideas?
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> >
> > lol was a cheer!!
> > thanks!
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> 
> wrote:
> > > Um, yes?
> > > 
> > > --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > > > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > > > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > > > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > > > 
> > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > You forgot the all-important "RECHANNELIZE INPUT To Track 
> > Dest: 
> > > > always"
> > > > > parameter in the MIDI menu.  Make sure it's 
> always "always".  
> > =)  
> > > > Turn
> > > > > keyboard and knobs transmit MIDI to off.  Let the sequencer 
> > reroute
> > > > > stuff.
> > > > > 
> > > > > -Aaron
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > hmm no it doesnt matter if i have it set to internal or 
> > external 
> > > > it 
> > > > > > still sends a messagee. whats going on here
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > hmm well it seems that if i want the keyboard to send 
> midi 
> > out 
> > > > i 
> > > > > > > will always have to have keyboart utputs midi to 
> transmit 
> > and 
> > > > use 
> > > > > > > the channel assign feature to filter whats goin on 
> > internaly.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > bummer
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > contollers menu
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > keyboard channel = basic
> > > > > > > > local control = on
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > midi menu
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > keyboard outputs midi = dont transmit
> > > > > > > > knobs = dont transmit(just the quick edit knobs)
> > > > > > > > midi enable = on for all channels
> > > > > > > > midi mode = multi
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > pattern menu
> > > > > > > > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > but i cant get it to transmit midi.
> > > > > > > > i was trying to make a new multisetup lemme just trash 
> > it 
> > > > and 
> > > > > > look 
> > > > > > > > at a multisetup i use to control live.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > ok my normal setup
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > controllers menu
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > keyboard channel = basic
> > > > > > > > local = on
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > midi menu
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > keyboard outputs midi = transmit(hmmmm)
> > > > > > > > lnobs = dont transmit
> > > > > > > > midi mode = multi
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > pattern menu
> > > > > > > > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > wierd why did this setup work before? even all the 
> > channels 
> > > > set 
> > > > > > to 
> > > > > > > > internal still send ext messages when i play on them.
> > > > > > > > what's going on here...
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > also i had searched but i couldnt find that thread 
> where 
> > you 
> > > > and 
> > > > > > > > aaron had displayed all the sysex mapping.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-
> > > > mail@p...> 
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" 
> > <malik_martin@h...> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > [snip]
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > does this mean that i can turn it off and just use 
> a 
> > > > preset 
> > > > > > > > > setting?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > What do you mean in the above sentence when you 
> > say "it"?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > If you mean "all that non-knob midi data going to 
> > external 
> > > > > > > gear," 
> > > > > > > > > the answer is yes. However, I am not sure this is 
> > > > what "it" 
> > > > > > > really 
> > > > > > > > > means.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > If I am right, I hope the following helps:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > If all that data is not routed to port A or port B, 
> > your 
> > > > built-
> > > > > > > in 
> > > > > > > > > controllers only affect the internal synth engine, 
> but 
> > if 
> > > > your 
> > > > > > > > > sequencer is setup to go out port A or port B, it 
> will 
> > > > still 
> > > > > > go 
> > > > > > > > out 
> > > > > > > > > to external gear.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > You have the options to (1) transmit/not transmit 
> > keyboard 
> > > > and 
> > > > > > > > other 
> > > > > > > > > non-knob on-board controller data and (2) 
> transmit/not 
> > > > > > transmit 
> > > > > > > > knob 
> > > > > > > > > controller data.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > There's another function--locaL ON/OFF.  Well, think 
> > of 
> > > > > > KEYBOARD 
> > > > > > > > > OUTPUTS MIDI as LOCAL ONLY (if you have KEYBOARDS 
> [and 
> > the 
> > > > > > other 
> > > > > > > > > local non-knob controllers] OUTPUTS MIDI = don't 
> > transmit.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Same thing with KNOBS MIDI OUT.  Think of it as 
> LOCAL 
> > ONLY 
> > > > for 
> > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > knobs.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > BOTTOM LINE:  I think of it as: I got my tunes going 
> > to 
> > > > > > internal 
> > > > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > > external gear and I want to play along, but I don't 
> > want 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > > built-
> > > > > > > > > in stuff (other than the sequencer) going to the 
> > external 
> > > > gear 
> > > > > > > > > connected to midi ports a and b.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --Steve
> > > 
> > > 
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aron you're a freakin genious!
i just set the track to both. wich is good anyway cause i will be 
recording midi into the tracl later for live use to trigger the 
loops in my external sequencer.

i find it better to do anything in the mp7.
if i could wrote a score in a text editor i'd make a song for you 
now! :P
thanks!

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
>
> Hmm, that sounds like it might be a bug.  Is the track that you're
> currently on (and therefore getting rechannelized/reported to) an
> "internal" track?  If it's not, that might be your problem (as that
> would theoretically cause the sysex to get reported out the back
> instead of to the internal synth.)
> 
> -Aaron x 32.
> 
> --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> 
> > dug this thread  back up. new problem.
> > it seems that when i have rechannelize inputs set to always my 
mp7 
> > wont receive sysex. it recievs the message just never actualy 
> > changes the multisetup(thats what i have the sysex set to do).
> > but if i have it off then it does work.
> > 
> > any ideas?
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > >
> > > lol was a cheer!!
> > > thanks!
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > Um, yes?
> > > > 
> > > > --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > > > > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > > > > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > > > > AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON! AARON!
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito 
<synthesis77@y...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > You forgot the all-important "RECHANNELIZE INPUT To 
Track 
> > > Dest: 
> > > > > always"
> > > > > > parameter in the MIDI menu.  Make sure it's 
> > always "always".  
> > > =)  
> > > > > Turn
> > > > > > keyboard and knobs transmit MIDI to off.  Let the 
sequencer 
> > > reroute
> > > > > > stuff.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -Aaron
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > hmm no it doesnt matter if i have it set to internal 
or 
> > > external 
> > > > > it 
> > > > > > > still sends a messagee. whats going on here
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" 
<malik_martin@h...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > hmm well it seems that if i want the keyboard to 
send 
> > midi 
> > > out 
> > > > > i 
> > > > > > > > will always have to have keyboart utputs midi to 
> > transmit 
> > > and 
> > > > > use 
> > > > > > > > the channel assign feature to filter whats goin on 
> > > internaly.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > bummer
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" 
<malik_martin@h...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > contollers menu
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > keyboard channel = basic
> > > > > > > > > local control = on
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > midi menu
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > keyboard outputs midi = dont transmit
> > > > > > > > > knobs = dont transmit(just the quick edit knobs)
> > > > > > > > > midi enable = on for all channels
> > > > > > > > > midi mode = multi
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > pattern menu
> > > > > > > > > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > but i cant get it to transmit midi.
> > > > > > > > > i was trying to make a new multisetup lemme just 
trash 
> > > it 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > > > look 
> > > > > > > > > at a multisetup i use to control live.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > ok my normal setup
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > controllers menu
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > keyboard channel = basic
> > > > > > > > > local = on
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > midi menu
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > keyboard outputs midi = transmit(hmmmm)
> > > > > > > > > lnobs = dont transmit
> > > > > > > > > midi mode = multi
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > pattern menu
> > > > > > > > > channel assign = 1a ext(all others int)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > wierd why did this setup work before? even all the 
> > > channels 
> > > > > set 
> > > > > > > to 
> > > > > > > > > internal still send ext messages when i play on 
them.
> > > > > > > > > what's going on here...
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > also i had searched but i couldnt find that thread 
> > where 
> > > you 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > > aaron had displayed all the sysex mapping.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" 
<smw-
> > > > > mail@p...> 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" 
> > > <malik_martin@h...> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > [snip]
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > does this mean that i can turn it off and just 
use 
> > a 
> > > > > preset 
> > > > > > > > > > setting?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > What do you mean in the above sentence when you 
> > > say "it"?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > If you mean "all that non-knob midi data going 
to 
> > > external 
> > > > > > > > gear," 
> > > > > > > > > > the answer is yes. However, I am not sure this 
is 
> > > > > what "it" 
> > > > > > > > really 
> > > > > > > > > > means.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > If I am right, I hope the following helps:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > If all that data is not routed to port A or port 
B, 
> > > your 
> > > > > built-
> > > > > > > > in 
> > > > > > > > > > controllers only affect the internal synth 
engine, 
> > but 
> > > if 
> > > > > your 
> > > > > > > > > > sequencer is setup to go out port A or port B, 
it 
> > will 
> > > > > still 
> > > > > > > go 
> > > > > > > > > out 
> > > > > > > > > > to external gear.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > You have the options to (1) transmit/not 
transmit 
> > > keyboard 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > > other 
> > > > > > > > > > non-knob on-board controller data and (2) 
> > transmit/not 
> > > > > > > transmit 
> > > > > > > > > knob 
> > > > > > > > > > controller data.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > There's another function--locaL ON/OFF.  Well, 
think 
> > > of 
> > > > > > > KEYBOARD 
> > > > > > > > > > OUTPUTS MIDI as LOCAL ONLY (if you have 
KEYBOARDS 
> > [and 
> > > the 
> > > > > > > other 
> > > > > > > > > > local non-knob controllers] OUTPUTS MIDI = don't 
> > > transmit.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Same thing with KNOBS MIDI OUT.  Think of it as 
> > LOCAL 
> > > ONLY 
> > > > > for 
> > > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > > knobs.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > BOTTOM LINE:  I think of it as: I got my tunes 
going 
> > > to 
> > > > > > > internal 
> > > > > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > > > external gear and I want to play along, but I 
don't 
> > > want 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > built-
> > > > > > > > > > in stuff (other than the sequencer) going to the 
> > > external 
> > > > > gear 
> > > > > > > > > > connected to midi ports a and b.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > --Steve
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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