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rEalm's Live Set methodology

2003-08-13 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Hey all, some one on the 505 list asked about how I set up my live sets, 
here's a copy of my reply.  Thought it might be interesting for a few 
people, so I posted it here too:
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I know how hard it is to set up a Live PA, and how helpful it can be to 
read other people's methods, so here's mine: 

The XL-7 is the main device, 95% of the tweaking and playing I'm doing 
during my sets are on that machine.  The SP808 really is only functioning 
as a sample playback unit, and occasionally as an effects device for those 
samples too.  It's not even synced via MIDI except to provide MIDI clock 
information for the effects.  As this is largely a hit and miss affair in 
terms of the effects actually syncing to the XL-7's tempo properly, I may 
not even bother with that MIDI cable in the future. 

Tracks 1-7 on the XL-7 are my main percussion parts, BD's, snare's HH's, 
and other drum stuff.  Track 8 is set up to Trigger samples on the SP808 
(more on this in a bit), and tracks 9-16 are my instrumental tracks.  The 
key here is that every Track has the same type of instrument for all of my 
XL-7 Patterns.  This makes it very easy to know what each track is playing 
while doing the live thing, and it also means I can switch to pretty much 
any Pattern and know how it's going to be laid out. 

All of my XL-7 Patterns are 8 measures long, I've tried other lengths, but 
this one seems to work the best for me.  If I make them shorter, I don't 
get to program that much variety into each one.  If I make them longer I 
can add more variety, but it makes switching Patterns that much more 
difficult for me.  I may set up for this really dramatic Pattern change, 
only to find out it still has 8 (or 12, 16, etc) more measures to go 
before the switch.  Then I'm just sitting there waiting, not much fun. 

In addition to the 16 sequenced tracks available in each Pattern, I also 
set up custom Triggers in my XL-7 too.  These are basically like the RPS 
function on the 505's, I have 16 of them that can be Triggered at any time 
during the set, regardless of what Pattern I'm playing.  Most of these are 
simple arpeggiated ethnic and tribal drum sounds, though a few are snare 
and HH based too.  These allow me to drop in different percussive elements 
during the set, which serve two purposes: 

1. They allow me to give the entire set more of a cohesive feel.  Since I 
use a lot of the Triggers more than once in the set, they add a subtle 
background element that helps give the whole thing sort of the same feel. 

2. They help me maintain some semblance of continuity while switching 
Patterns.  Because my Triggers are independent of the Pattern being 
played, I can switch Patterns and have the same percussion sounds still 
being sounded.  Helps to make transitions more seamless IMO. 

The SP808 has two main roles; it plays back sequenced loops and other 
samples that compliment the XL-7 Patterns, and it lets me manually drop in 
vocal samples when I want to.  The sequenced loops were originally 
constructed in Reason, using breaks I've collected or occasionally 
modifying a refill here and there.  Because Reason can act as a MIDI 
slave, I'd set the XL-7 to be the master and create my 8 bar Patterns in 
the Redrum and Dr. Rex modules.  Once I was happy with how the loop was 
complimenting the XL-7 patterns, I would set the L and R locators to 1 
measure, and export these as audio files.  So my 8 bar Reason Pattern, 
would in effect become 8 separate 1 bar audio files.  The downside to this 
is that the tempo of the Reason stuff can't be changed after the fact, so 
you have to decide on your Pattern/set tempo ahead of time.   

At this point, I would use the 808 conversion software with an external 
ZIP drive to transfer the samples to the SP808.  Each SP808 sample bank 
corresponds to an XL-7 Pattern, with the 8 samples forming the loop being 
placed on pads 1-8.  I would also place some random vocal samples on Pads 
9-16 as I saw fit. The last two songs in the set use guitar fills which I 
had recorded in Cubase SX, and then imported to the SP808 on the last 8 
pads for that Sample Pad Bank. 

As mentioned earlier, Track 8 on the XL-7 controls the SP808.  Because 
each Pad Bank in the Sp808 can be recalled via simple program changes, I 
just inserted the appropriate PC message at the beginning of each pattern 
on that track.  The XL-7 has a GREAT feature where events placed at Tick 0 
in the XL-7 are NOT repeated each time the pattern loops, so I didn't have 
to worry about the samples reloading each time the Pattern loops.  This 
way, every time I change patterns, the Sp808 automatically updates to the 
correct Sample Pad Bank.  Then I inserted CC#7 (volume) commands to 
control the volume of the Pad banks, since they varied greatly Pattern to 
Pattern.   

The last step was to insert note events at the beginning of every measure 
that would trigger each of the 8 loop pads sequentially.  Why 8 pads for 
the loop instead of just one?  Because this way I can mute the drum loop 
from the panel of the XL-7, without having to wait until the pattern loops 
around again before it starts playing again.  The most I have to wait now 
is one measure.  I did have to play with the sample start times in the 
SP808 to get everything to sync up correctly.  I think the data 
compression Roland uses messes with the sample accurate loops I had set up 
in Reason, though I can't confirm this. 

Overall I'm pretty happy with the set up, it's flexible, small, and now 
that the pre-production work is done it's pretty easy to set up and play.

rEalm 


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Re: rEalm's Live Set methodology

2003-08-13 by dwoodaman

since I am still in the throes of trying to make my live thing work 
for me, I much appreciate the details you give here!
dana
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Hey all, some one on the 505 list asked about how I set up my live 
sets, 
> here's a copy of my reply.  Thought it might be interesting for a 
few 
> people, so I posted it here too:
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
> 
> I know how hard it is to set up a Live PA, and how helpful it can 
be to 
> read other people's methods, so here's mine: 
> 
> The XL-7 is the main device, 95% of the tweaking and playing I'm 
doing 
> during my sets are on that machine.  The SP808 really is only 
functioning 
> as a sample playback unit, and occasionally as an effects device 
for those 
> samples too.  It's not even synced via MIDI except to provide MIDI 
clock 
> information for the effects.  As this is largely a hit and miss 
affair in 
> terms of the effects actually syncing to the XL-7's tempo 
properly, I may 
> not even bother with that MIDI cable in the future. 
> 
> Tracks 1-7 on the XL-7 are my main percussion parts, BD's, snare's 
HH's, 
> and other drum stuff.  Track 8 is set up to Trigger samples on the 
SP808 
> (more on this in a bit), and tracks 9-16 are my instrumental 
tracks.  The 
> key here is that every Track has the same type of instrument for 
all of my 
> XL-7 Patterns.  This makes it very easy to know what each track is 
playing 
> while doing the live thing, and it also means I can switch to 
pretty much 
> any Pattern and know how it's going to be laid out. 
> 
> All of my XL-7 Patterns are 8 measures long, I've tried other 
lengths, but 
> this one seems to work the best for me.  If I make them shorter, I 
don't 
> get to program that much variety into each one.  If I make them 
longer I 
> can add more variety, but it makes switching Patterns that much 
more 
> difficult for me.  I may set up for this really dramatic Pattern 
change, 
> only to find out it still has 8 (or 12, 16, etc) more measures to 
go 
> before the switch.  Then I'm just sitting there waiting, not much 
fun. 
> 
> In addition to the 16 sequenced tracks available in each Pattern, 
I also 
> set up custom Triggers in my XL-7 too.  These are basically like 
the RPS 
> function on the 505's, I have 16 of them that can be Triggered at 
any time 
> during the set, regardless of what Pattern I'm playing.  Most of 
these are 
> simple arpeggiated ethnic and tribal drum sounds, though a few are 
snare 
> and HH based too.  These allow me to drop in different percussive 
elements 
> during the set, which serve two purposes: 
> 
> 1. They allow me to give the entire set more of a cohesive feel.  
Since I 
> use a lot of the Triggers more than once in the set, they add a 
subtle 
> background element that helps give the whole thing sort of the 
same feel. 
> 
> 2. They help me maintain some semblance of continuity while 
switching 
> Patterns.  Because my Triggers are independent of the Pattern 
being 
> played, I can switch Patterns and have the same percussion sounds 
still 
> being sounded.  Helps to make transitions more seamless IMO. 
> 
> The SP808 has two main roles; it plays back sequenced loops and 
other 
> samples that compliment the XL-7 Patterns, and it lets me manually 
drop in 
> vocal samples when I want to.  The sequenced loops were originally 
> constructed in Reason, using breaks I've collected or occasionally 
> modifying a refill here and there.  Because Reason can act as a 
MIDI 
> slave, I'd set the XL-7 to be the master and create my 8 bar 
Patterns in 
> the Redrum and Dr. Rex modules.  Once I was happy with how the 
loop was 
> complimenting the XL-7 patterns, I would set the L and R locators 
to 1 
> measure, and export these as audio files.  So my 8 bar Reason 
Pattern, 
> would in effect become 8 separate 1 bar audio files.  The downside 
to this 
> is that the tempo of the Reason stuff can't be changed after the 
fact, so 
> you have to decide on your Pattern/set tempo ahead of time.   
> 
> At this point, I would use the 808 conversion software with an 
external 
> ZIP drive to transfer the samples to the SP808.  Each SP808 sample 
bank 
> corresponds to an XL-7 Pattern, with the 8 samples forming the 
loop being 
> placed on pads 1-8.  I would also place some random vocal samples 
on Pads 
> 9-16 as I saw fit. The last two songs in the set use guitar fills 
which I 
> had recorded in Cubase SX, and then imported to the SP808 on the 
last 8 
> pads for that Sample Pad Bank. 
> 
> As mentioned earlier, Track 8 on the XL-7 controls the SP808.  
Because 
> each Pad Bank in the Sp808 can be recalled via simple program 
changes, I 
> just inserted the appropriate PC message at the beginning of each 
pattern 
> on that track.  The XL-7 has a GREAT feature where events placed 
at Tick 0 
> in the XL-7 are NOT repeated each time the pattern loops, so I 
didn't have 
> to worry about the samples reloading each time the Pattern loops.  
This 
> way, every time I change patterns, the Sp808 automatically updates 
to the 
> correct Sample Pad Bank.  Then I inserted CC#7 (volume) commands 
to 
> control the volume of the Pad banks, since they varied greatly 
Pattern to 
> Pattern.   
> 
> The last step was to insert note events at the beginning of every 
measure 
> that would trigger each of the 8 loop pads sequentially.  Why 8 
pads for 
> the loop instead of just one?  Because this way I can mute the 
drum loop 
> from the panel of the XL-7, without having to wait until the 
pattern loops 
> around again before it starts playing again.  The most I have to 
wait now 
> is one measure.  I did have to play with the sample start times in 
the 
> SP808 to get everything to sync up correctly.  I think the data 
> compression Roland uses messes with the sample accurate loops I 
had set up 
> in Reason, though I can't confirm this. 
> 
> Overall I'm pretty happy with the set up, it's flexible, small, 
and now 
> that the pre-production work is done it's pretty easy to set up 
and play.
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> 
> rEalm 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [xl7] Re: rEalm's Live Set methodology

2003-08-13 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Glad it was helpful!  I know that when I first was toying with the idea of 
doing a live pa years ago, it was incredibly furstrating.  I knew what I 
wanted to do, I just didn't know how I was GOING to do it.  Reading 
interviews with other live acts definitely helped me out, hopefully this 
will help some people too...

rEalm




since I am still in the throes of trying to make my live thing work for 
me, I much appreciate the details you give here!
dana








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[xl7] Re: rEalm's Live Set methodology

2003-08-13 by Oscar Finch

Ditto too that one Dana .Thankyou for the info Realm very handy.I'm actually replacing my RS7000 w/ 2 SP808EX's and an MP7 with the roms I mentioned.So this reply was actually very handy for me.I already have 2 parallel midi out boxes , 1 into 4 parallel midi outs each so I'll have no troubles driving the Micro Q + Elevata at the same time.It will also mean no DAW in a live set (very handy).Can't wait ,two weeks to go and I get my Command Station (brand new OS 2.0 preloaded for $1600 AUD) - a damn site cheaper than my $3400 AUD RS7000 ever was BTW .I use to own the 808's so I know them very well already.Still haven't found a buyer in Oz for my RS7000 (mint cond. full ram etc etc so if any Oz residents are ineterested let me know as it's never been gigged) - $2000 AUD with 64 SM card ,SCSI type 1 cable 64 meg ,manuals ,TWE ,acid express etc etc etc oh and ColdCut's Bits & Pieces sample CD .Just thought I'd throw that one in.Once again thanks for the info.Great programming on the rythms Realm that Command station has a nice rythmic vibe.Excellent Stuff.--- On Wed 08/13, dwoodaman < dwoodaman@... > wrote:From: dwoodaman [mailto: dwoodaman@...]To: xl7@yahoogroups.comDate: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 18:03:34 -0000Subject: [xl7] Re: rEalm's Live Set methodologysince I am still in the throes of trying to make my live thing work for me, I much appreciate the details you give here!dana


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Re: rEalm's Live Set methodology

2003-08-14 by robotchas

Yeah, that's nice and all, but let's stay on topic here: are you a 
hot young blonde who's honest, yet daring and wild, and do you have a 
huge RACK?

(Seriously, do you use outboard gear or is it just the XL and SP?)


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Glad it was helpful!  I know that when I first was toying with the 
idea of 
> doing a live pa years ago, it was incredibly furstrating.  I knew 
what I 
> wanted to do, I just didn't know how I was GOING to do it.  Reading 
> interviews with other live acts definitely helped me out, hopefully 
this 
> will help some people too...
> 
> rEalm
>  
> 
> since I am still in the throes of trying to make my live thing work 
for 
> me, I much appreciate the details you give here!
> dana

Re: rEalm's Live Set methodology

2003-08-14 by sincultura13

Thanks! I have a Sp-505 and am planning my setup right know... You 
just gave me some really useful organizational tips that I'm 
definitelly incorporating... For what I'm doing the Sp-505 is not 
enough though. I have an ESi and an alesis, but haven't had time to 
actually run everything together... I might drop one of the last two 
in favor of a DJ cd player for scratch effects and dj like rhythm 
freedom when I feel like it... Do you have additional roms on your Xl-
7? What kind of music do you do? 



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "robotchas" <robotchas@y...> wrote:
> Yeah, that's nice and all, but let's stay on topic here: are you a 
> hot young blonde who's honest, yet daring and wild, and do you have 
a 
> huge RACK?
> 
> (Seriously, do you use outboard gear or is it just the XL and SP?)
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > Glad it was helpful!  I know that when I first was toying with 
the 
> idea of 
> > doing a live pa years ago, it was incredibly furstrating.  I knew 
> what I 
> > wanted to do, I just didn't know how I was GOING to do it.  
Reading 
> > interviews with other live acts definitely helped me out, 
hopefully 
> this 
> > will help some people too...
> > 
> > rEalm
> >  
> > 
> > since I am still in the throes of trying to make my live thing 
work 
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> for 
> > me, I much appreciate the details you give here!
> > dana

Re: [xl7] Re: rEalm's Live Set methodology

2003-08-14 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Yeah, that's nice and all, but let's stay on topic here: are you a 
hot young blonde who's honest, yet daring and wild, and do you have a 
huge RACK?

>>>No, but I play one on TV. <<<

(Seriously, do you use outboard gear or is it just the XL and SP?)

>>>Just the XL-7 and the SP808. <<<

rEalm


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Re: [xl7] Re: rEalm's Live Set methodology

2003-08-14 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Do you have additional roms on your Xl-7? 

>>>Yes, the Proteus Pop ROM and the new Proteus Drums ROM. <<<

What kind of music do you do? 

>>No idea, take a listen and you tell me:

http://rEalm.iuma.com
http://www.acme.dj/rEalm.html   <<<

rEalm



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rEalm's Live Set methodology & re: music style... & Some "?"sss

2003-08-20 by sincultura13

Your music is pretty cool... I like the logical way you develop ideas 
and the samples from a comedian (which remind me of Bill Cosby 
on "Himself") on 'jello speak' and the guitar-like melody on last 
track which hits me in a similar way to one of U2's old songs. I 
don't know what too call your music... Sort of electronic all the way 
through but with really varied nonelectronic influences? I don't know 
much about electronic music, so pardon if I stated the obvious...

My music is going in a different direction... I use alot of acoustic-
like sounds, build/develop ideas harmonically (instead of in a lineal 
way)and use drums more sparingly. I guess more like ambient? In any 
case I layer a lot and sometimes use really long samples... So I 
built on your idea and started to not only do what you do in reason 
with logic, but also straight on the Sp-505 (the sp-505 is cool that 
way, chopping and resampling is really easy and effective). Now, I'm 
going to get a Scsi card so I can load long samples to my ESi more 
effectively and am experimenting with building 32 bars patterns. I 
also plan to get two (or atleast one) cheap & flexible effect unit to 
tweak things live... It should work out beautifully... Well, atleast 
it doesin my head it does! :)


Any suggestions for a CHEAP & flexible effect unit for "live" use? I 
really wanted the Line 6 unit with all the delay/echo effects... but 
is more than what I have (or would want to since for not much more I 
could get a basic laptop and use vsts) to spend... I like delays, 
tape delay and echos the most...

BTW, Anybody here using a command station with a dj cd player live? 

thanks...



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
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> Do you have additional roms on your Xl-7? 
> 
> >>>Yes, the Proteus Pop ROM and the new Proteus Drums ROM. <<<
> 
> What kind of music do you do? 
> 
> >>No idea, take a listen and you tell me:
> 
> http://rEalm.iuma.com
> http://www.acme.dj/rEalm.html   <<<
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: rEalm's Live Set methodology & re: music style... & Some "?"sss

2003-08-20 by dwoodaman

I have a TC electronics M300, really really great box
dana
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sincultura13" <sincultura13@y...> wrote:
> Your music is pretty cool... I like the logical way you develop 
ideas 
> and the samples from a comedian (which remind me of Bill Cosby 
> on "Himself") on 'jello speak' and the guitar-like melody on last 
> track which hits me in a similar way to one of U2's old songs. I 
> don't know what too call your music... Sort of electronic all the 
way 
> through but with really varied nonelectronic influences? I don't 
know 
> much about electronic music, so pardon if I stated the obvious...
> 
> My music is going in a different direction... I use alot of 
acoustic-
> like sounds, build/develop ideas harmonically (instead of in a 
lineal 
> way)and use drums more sparingly. I guess more like ambient? In any 
> case I layer a lot and sometimes use really long samples... So I 
> built on your idea and started to not only do what you do in reason 
> with logic, but also straight on the Sp-505 (the sp-505 is cool 
that 
> way, chopping and resampling is really easy and effective). Now, 
I'm 
> going to get a Scsi card so I can load long samples to my ESi more 
> effectively and am experimenting with building 32 bars patterns. I 
> also plan to get two (or atleast one) cheap & flexible effect unit 
to 
> tweak things live... It should work out beautifully... Well, 
atleast 
> it doesin my head it does! :)
> 
> 
> Any suggestions for a CHEAP & flexible effect unit for "live" use? 
I 
> really wanted the Line 6 unit with all the delay/echo effects... 
but 
> is more than what I have (or would want to since for not much more 
I 
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> could get a basic laptop and use vsts) to spend... I like delays, 
> tape delay and echos the most...
> 
> BTW, Anybody here using a command station with a dj cd player live? 
> 
> thanks...
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > Do you have additional roms on your Xl-7? 
> > 
> > >>>Yes, the Proteus Pop ROM and the new Proteus Drums ROM. <<<
> > 
> > What kind of music do you do? 
> > 
> > >>No idea, take a listen and you tell me:
> > 
> > http://rEalm.iuma.com
> > http://www.acme.dj/rEalm.html   <<<
> > 
> > rEalm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: rEalm's Live Set methodology & re: music style... & Some "?"sss

2003-08-20 by Justin Grimley

> 
> Any suggestions for a CHEAP & flexible effect unit for "live" use? 
I 

I recently got a Korg Kaoss Pad 2, and man that thing rocks!  To be 
honest, I haven;t actually used it yet in any of my own tunes, 
because I have been having so much fun running vinyl through it, I 
keep losing track of time.  I have a send bus from my mixer going 
into the line-in, and a Numark TT200 running straight into the phono 
ins.  You can then toggle between inputs (has a mic input as well) 
with a switch on the front panel.
-grimley

Re: [xl7] rEalm's Live Set methodology & re: music style... & Some "?"sss

2003-08-20 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Your music is pretty cool... I like the logical way you develop ideas and 
the samples from a comedian (which remind me of Bill Cosby on "Himself") 
on 'jello speak' 

>>>Yeah, ummm...certainly my samples never came from that record. 
Definitely not, I mean that wouldn't be right huh?  Definitely not from 
that record, even though I have it in my collection and it sounds 
amazingly similar to what I used.  Yeah, um.... sure. :) <<<<

and the guitar-like melody on last track which hits me in a similar way to 
one of U2's old songs. 

>>>Thanks, there's a different rendition of that song in my live set too, 
more info on that shortly.  I started out playing the guitar, so it's 
always nice when I can use that in one of my songs. <<<

I don't know what too call your music... Sort of electronic all the way 
through but with really varied nonelectronic influences? I don't know much 
about electronic music, so pardon if I stated the obvious...

>>>No problem, I actually take it as one of the best compliments when 
people say they can't define my music, or that I have my own style. That's 
one of the msot important things to me, and the reason why I never took 
any lessons.<<<

Any suggestions for a CHEAP & flexible effect unit for "live" use? 

>>>I really like the Korg Kaoss pad, don't have one myself, but it's a 
really cool unit for fairly cheap. <<<

I like delays, tape delay and echos the most...

>>>I like delays a lot too, by far my favorite effect category.  Mmm...Ohm 
Force OhmBoyz can keep me entertained for hours.... <<<

BTW, Anybody here using a command station with a dj cd player live? 

>>>Not yet, but I've been itching to get that new Denon CD deck really 
bad.  I use one with regular tables though, so if you have any integration 
questions, fire away. <<<

rEalm


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Re: [xl7] rEalm's Live Set methodology & re: music style... & Some "?"sss

2003-08-20 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

I have been using my command station with two cd dj decks live with a regular dj mixer for a few weeks now. Very simple, I mix in live work back to back with tracks. I will improve a bit with X-mix then when I bore myself, I will go back to a cd and play a few of those then go back to the command station. Most listeners don't even know what is going on. I have also brought in a guitarist to jam along. Often we will also play on top of the cds for the hell of it. I think I want to get a kaoss pad for this purpose as well just to have some overall hard effects . . .
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  Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:52 AM
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  BTW, Anybody here using a command station with a dj cd player live? 

  >>>Not yet, but I've been itching to get that new Denon CD deck really 
  bad.  I use one with regular tables though, so if you have any integration 
  questions, fire away. <<<


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Re: [xl7] rEalm's Live Set methodology & re: music style... & Some "?"sss

2003-08-21 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Ditto, it would be cool to morph the whoel mix to hell and back, and I 
think the KP2 is a pretty cool little box for this.  Have you played with 
one yet Ravi?  I just like looking at them, IMO by far one of the coolest 
looking boxes ever made...

rEalm



I think I want to get a kaoss pad for this purpose as well just to have 
some overall hard effects . . .









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Re: [xl7] rEalm's Live Set methodology & re: music style... & Some "?"sss

2003-08-22 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

no I haven't tried one yet, but that is exactly what I had in mind, I would run it as an insert to the final output so I could warp the command station allong with the guitarist or whatever else all at the same time . . 
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  Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 7:55 AM
  Subject: Re: [xl7] rEalm's Live Set methodology & re: music style... & Some "?"sss


  Ditto, it would be cool to morph the whoel mix to hell and back, and I 
  think the KP2 is a pretty cool little box for this.  Have you played with 
  one yet Ravi?  I just like looking at them, IMO by far one of the coolest 
  looking boxes ever made...

  rEalm



  I think I want to get a kaoss pad for this purpose as well just to have 
  some overall hard effects . . .









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Re: [xl7] rEalm's Live Set methodology & re: music style... & Some "?"sss

2003-08-22 by biz

I've played around with one. Definitely cool. A couple of friends of mine have them as the last chain in their rigs.

Have you seen the video one they've been showing on H-C?


bIz

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  From: Ravi Ivan Sharma 
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  Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 5:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [xl7] rEalm's Live Set methodology & re: music style... & Some "?"sss


  no I haven't tried one yet, but that is exactly what I had in mind, I would run it as an insert to the final output so I could warp the command station allong with the guitarist or whatever else all at the same time . . 
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    Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 7:55 AM
    Subject: Re: [xl7] rEalm's Live Set methodology & re: music style... & Some "?"sss


    Ditto, it would be cool to morph the whoel mix to hell and back, and I 
    think the KP2 is a pretty cool little box for this.  Have you played with 
    one yet Ravi?  I just like looking at them, IMO by far one of the coolest 
    looking boxes ever made...

    rEalm



    I think I want to get a kaoss pad for this purpose as well just to have 
    some overall hard effects . . .









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Re: rEalm's Live Set methodology & re: music style... & Some "?"sss

2003-08-25 by sincultura13

The Kaoss 2 looks ideal for what I want... Has anyone tried the 
scratch and/or echo delay effects on it? The reason I wanted a dj cd 
player was for the scratching effect, if I can get that with the 
Kaoss pad I'm almost sold on it...


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> think the KP2 is a pretty cool little box for this.  Have you 
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coolest 
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have 
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