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That's a really good point, and sums up how I use mine exactly.  SX is 
nothing more than a glorified tape deck for me, but the PX-7, that thing 
you can actually play....

rEalm



 computer sequencers are really just glorified tape recorders, in my 
opinion, as opposed to a well-designed hardware sequencer, which is more 
like a musical instrument.



 






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Many thanks. Haven't thought that there were any values below zero. I'll 
look for that when I get home.

>>>Many menus in the Command Stations do this (but not the LFO rate menu, 
grrr!), not just the Delay menu BTW. ,<<

Great tip. Is that in the files section here already?

>>>No, but there's a lot more in the Tips and Tricks Document. <<<

The delay between pattern changing has been fixed? Hmm, so that's a way to 
arrange complete productions on the XX-7.

>>>Yes, I do live sets this way. <<<

There is no way to quickly experiment on the XX-7 as the one octave 
keyboard is too few to experiment.

>>>You just need to appraoch it differently than you would with Fruity 
Loops.  Trying to compare a computer sequencer to the XX-7's sequencer 
will only get you confused, or wishing it could do things it can't.  Best 
if you just appraoch it for what it is, and then learn to work it the way 
it's intended to be worked.  Just keep practicing and having fun, you'll 
get it soon enough. :) <<<

rEalm
 






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LFO1 and LFO2 (layer level controllers) use 25 values below zero to 
sync LFO to BPM clock from 1/32 [-1] to 8/1 [-25].

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:

> Many thanks. Haven't thought that there were any values below zero.
> I'll look for that when I get home.
> 
> >>>Many menus in the Command Stations do this (but not the LFO rate
> menu, grrr!), not just the Delay menu BTW. ,<<

QUOTE:
I still haven't figured out 
> how to play loops of different lengths simultaenously on the e-mu 
> sequencer. 


Let me know if you do!! 
That, and not being able to switch between pattern variations 
quickly are the downsides of the XX-7 sequencers. I dont want to 
have just one pattern per track, and I dont wanna have to wait till 
the end of the loop for it to change ... I want to do quick pattern 
switching for fills and variations. 



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
wrote:
> Anyone remember Dr. T's KCS [Keyboard Controlled Sequencer] for 
the 
> Commodore 64 (circa 1985)?  Although limited by the technology of 
the 
> time, you could start and stop tracks [loops/patterns] at will, 
have 
> overlapping tracks [loops/patterns] with different lengths, 
transpose 
> tracks on the fly, record and send  sysex, etc.
> 
> Of course, you had to use your own ear-hand coordination to start 
> loops properly--no BPM sync. 
> 
> Now that I am taking the time to develop a realtime performance 
> modality based on the e-mu, I am glad my first sequencer was the 
KCS, 
> not a software tape recorder.  Of oourse, I still haven't figured 
out 
> how to play loops of different lengths simultaenously on the e-mu 
> sequencer. 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > That's a really good point, and sums up how I use mine exactly.
> > SX is nothing more than a glorified tape deck for me, but the 
> > PX-7, that thing you can actually play....
> > 
> > rEalm
> > 
> > computer sequencers are really just glorified tape recorders, in
> > my opinion, as opposed to a well-designed hardware sequencer, 
which
> > is more like a musical instrument.

> QUOTE:
> I still haven't figured out 
> > how to play loops of different lengths simultaenously on the e-mu
> > sequencer. 
> 
> 
> Let me know if you do!! 

Use the arp. It's the only way.

-m@

You can change patterns at any time by pressing the play and stop 
button at the same time.  Or hold down the play button and then just 
tap the stop button when you want the pattern to change.


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "elemental" <adz32@y...> wrote:
> 
> QUOTE:
> I still haven't figured out 
> > how to play loops of different lengths simultaenously on the e-
mu 
> > sequencer. 
> 
> 
> Let me know if you do!! 
> That, and not being able to switch between pattern variations 
> quickly are the downsides of the XX-7 sequencers. I dont want to 
> have just one pattern per track, and I dont wanna have to wait 
till 
> the end of the loop for it to change ... I want to do quick 
pattern 
> switching for fills and variations. 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
> wrote:
> > Anyone remember Dr. T's KCS [Keyboard Controlled Sequencer] for 
> the 
> > Commodore 64 (circa 1985)?  Although limited by the technology 
of 
> the 
> > time, you could start and stop tracks [loops/patterns] at will, 
> have 
> > overlapping tracks [loops/patterns] with different lengths, 
> transpose 
> > tracks on the fly, record and send  sysex, etc.
> > 
> > Of course, you had to use your own ear-hand coordination to 
start 
> > loops properly--no BPM sync. 
> > 
> > Now that I am taking the time to develop a realtime performance 
> > modality based on the e-mu, I am glad my first sequencer was the 
> KCS, 
> > not a software tape recorder.  Of oourse, I still haven't 
figured 
> out 
> > how to play loops of different lengths simultaenously on the e-
mu 
> > sequencer. 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > > That's a really good point, and sums up how I use mine exactly.
> > > SX is nothing more than a glorified tape deck for me, but the 
> > > PX-7, that thing you can actually play....
> > > 
> > > rEalm
> > > 
> > > computer sequencers are really just glorified tape recorders, 
in

> > > my opinion, as opposed to a well-designed hardware sequencer, 
> which
> > > is more like a musical instrument.

If you have a pattern "queued up" you can just press PLAY + STOP to jump 
immediately to the next pattern.

rEalm



... and I dont wanna have to wait till the end of the loop for it to change
 






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That's how I made my own RPS's in the XX-7's.  I have the triggers firing 
off percussion parts that use odd time signatures (ala the arps) for 
interesting variations.

rEalm





Hmmmmm.  32 arp sequencers--different lengths; some synced, some not; 
triggered by some or all of the 16 buttons (as notes) . . . .

Hmmmm. lotsa potential there--if I ever get back into making music!

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Picone" <matman@m...> wrote:
> > QUOTE:
> > I still haven't figured out 
> > > how to play loops of different lengths simultaneously on the
> > > e-mu sequencer. 
> > 
> > 
> > Let me know if you do!! 
> 
> Use the arp. It's the only way.
> 
> -m@




 
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Excellent!!!

When I get back into designing my performance modality, this will be 
on my list to explore.  Any tips, a small tutorial, setup/design 
considerations, warnings, etc. would be appreciated.

The gears are churning--backing tracks with midi sax noodling
 + foot pedal sonic manipulations!

Gotta find .wrk file for the dance tune in 7 and do some 
deconstruction/reconstruction with arped poly rhythms!!!!

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:

> That's how I made my own RPS's in the XX-7's.  I have the triggers
> firing off percussion parts that use odd time signatures (ala the
> arps) for interesting variations.
> 
> rEalm
> 
>
> Hmmmmm.  32 arp sequencers--different lengths; some synced, some
> not; triggered by some or all of the 16 buttons (as notes) . . . .
> 
> Hmmmm. lotsa potential there--if I ever get back into making music!
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Picone" <matman@m...> wrote:
> > > QUOTE:
> > > I still haven't figured out 
> > > > how to play loops of different lengths simultaneously on the
> > > > e-mu sequencer. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Let me know if you do!! 
> > 
> > Use the arp. It's the only way.
> > 
> > -m@

It's been covered many times in the archives, I did a few full-length step 
by steps on it.  If you can't find it, let me know and I'll do some 
digging when i get the time.

rEalm





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