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Hello.  Got a Composer Rom from EMU recently and it seems that the 
actual Volume levels for different Presets are radically different - 
some seem appropriately "loud" while others seem barely audible when 
trying to play/record them into a pattern. Is this the way the ROM is 
supposed to work? I have tried reseating the ROM. (Sorry, I really 
don't know much about ROMs and sampling.)  Also, is there a list 
anywhere with all the actual sounds and their locations?  I'm having 
some problems navigating this ROM (Protean Drum is the only other one 
I have), not that I'm doing very well with many of the other 
features, either, but I'd appreciate some help with this particular 
problem, if possible. (Then we move on to the strange flicker in the 
display and the shifting pattern presets, but enough for now.)  
Thanks, Ken

You're ROM didn't come with a Preset Listing?  Odd, maybe contact Emu 
directly, they should be able to send you one.  As for the volume levels, 
that's hard to say as I don't own the composer ROM to check myself.  Make 
sure you're hitting the pads with the same velocity when comparing is all 
I can suggest at this point.  If it's still a problem, go into Preset Edit 
and change the AmpVol setting and save them as your own custom User 
presets.

Display flicker?  Are you using OS2.0?

rEalm





xkrider1 <kenrider@...>
05/03/2004 11:47 PM
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Hello.  Got a Composer Rom from EMU recently and it seems that the 
actual Volume levels for different Presets are radically different - 
some seem appropriately "loud" while others seem barely audible when 
trying to play/record them into a pattern. Is this the way the ROM is 
supposed to work? I have tried reseating the ROM. (Sorry, I really 
don't know much about ROMs and sampling.)  Also, is there a list 
anywhere with all the actual sounds and their locations?  I'm having 
some problems navigating this ROM (Protean Drum is the only other one 
I have), not that I'm doing very well with many of the other 
features, either, but I'd appreciate some help with this particular 
problem, if possible. (Then we move on to the strange flicker in the 
display and the shifting pattern presets, but enough for now.) 
Thanks, Ken 




 
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> You're ROM didn't come with a Preset Listing?  Odd, maybe contact Emu 
> directly, they should be able to send you one.

or just download the Proteus 2000 manual from E-mu - Composer ROM presets list in the appendix.

--
Bruddah Max
Lord of the Dance

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> You're ROM didn't come with a Preset Listing?  

The Composer Rom showed up in a static bag with install instructions 
for the 2000; the person at EMU had said it wouldn't be in a "fancy 
package", which must have included the preset list.  I followed 
Bruddah's suggestion of downloading the 2000 manual, and so I've got 
the list now.  Thanks.  Somewhere along that line I got a better 
understanding of navigating the Presets/ROMs. More Thanks!!!

Display flicker:  I've got version 2.0 (px-7).  What this is doing 
is "redrawing", if that's the right term, the screen two or three 
times rapidly when I press the Stop button. I've had the px-7 for a 
few months now and it didn't do this when I first got it. What is 
really odd is that it does it on the first Factory Pattern, "Rock 
This" but not on the second, "Falling Leaves".  Some patterns seem to 
do this and others don't. I thought it might be the button,(although 
I'm not sure why some screens do this and others don't) and hosed it 
out with compressed air, anyway, and also reseated both ROMs, but no 
fixola.  It doesn't seem to effect anything now, but I was wondering 
if this was the beginning of a serious problem.

Also, The Composer ROM doesn't have a USER Bank; I thought that each 
ROM had its own USER bank ... and the Composer Preset list refers to 
it(?).  It isn't showing up on the screen. 

Last,  somehow  the Protean Drums USER Bank O, Preset OOO has become 
a Bass Preset rather than the "True Kit" that it is supposed to be. 
(I suspect my own bungling here, but no clue.)  How do you change 
this back to the original preset? 

Adrift in the EMU Triangle, Ken

xkrider1 wrote:

> Also, The Composer ROM doesn't have a USER Bank; I thought that each
> ROM had its own USER bank ... and the Composer Preset list refers to
> it(?).  It isn't showing up on the screen.

actually, in the Proteus 2000, the first five Composer ROM banks (there are
seven (!!!) if i recall correctly) are duplicted in the User banks. the User
banks (4 of them) are in the machine itself, the presets are on the ROMs.
so, if you have a PX-7, you have up to 4 x (4 to 7) ROM banks + 4 User
banks.

the benefit of this, in my mind, is that none of the presets are sacrificed
to user patches, which is nice.

-- 
Bruddah Max
Lord of the Dance

xkrider1 wrote:

> Last,  somehow  the Protean Drums USER Bank O, Preset OOO has become
> a Bass Preset rather than the "True Kit" that it is supposed to be.
> (I suspect my own bungling here, but no clue.)  How do you change
> this back to the original preset?

copy the ROM preset Bank 0 Preset 000 to the User location.

-- 
Bruddah Max
Lord of the Dance

Bruddah Max wrote:

> actually, in the Proteus 2000, the first five Composer ROM banks (there are
> seven (!!!) if i recall correctly) are duplicted in the User banks. the User
> banks (4 of them) are in the machine itself, the presets are on the ROMs.
> so, if you have a PX-7, you have up to 4 x (4 to 7) ROM banks + 4 User
> banks.

i kinda contradict myself here. there are four user banks in all P2K engine
synths. not five. 
-- 
Bruddah Max
Lord of the Dance

Hey Bruddah, Thanks for the response to my questions. I was beginning 
to realize that something named Read Only Memory probably didn't have 
anything editable on it!  (Here at the institute they tell me if I 
take my medication on time, I shouldn't have these lapses too 
often!!) Certainly do appreciate the help that you, rEalm, aaron and 
others are to those of us who are wandering in Nebulous Land; it gets 
pretty murky out here at times.      Ken

[Also got some information on the screen "flicker", so maybe that 
probs cleared up too!]

I think they all do this, and it has to do with the complexity of the 
pattern you're on is my guess.  When you hit stop twice, you're basically 
"reloading" the current pattern, which can be a lot of data.  On my 
contest track from two years ago (which was very complex), I would 
actually see the word "Stop" flicker too.  As long as the sound is 
consistant, it shouldn't matter if the display does this.

rEalm




Display flicker:  I've got version 2.0 (px-7).  What this is doing 
is "redrawing", if that's the right term, the screen two or three 
times rapidly when I press the Stop button. I've had the px-7 for a 
few months now and it didn't do this when I first got it. What is 
really odd is that it does it on the first Factory Pattern, "Rock 
This" but not on the second, "Falling Leaves".  Some patterns seem to 
do this and others don't. 


 






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