Yamaha CS80

I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message before.

I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs that me and 
RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80 Level 3's.   
They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs was really 
high.
They work out at about £40 each.

Kent, in my browser that came out as ?40. Are we talking pounds,
dollars or euros? Can you ship to the states? How hard are they to put
into place? Do they still have the same functionality in that you can
start anywhere on the ribbon, moving left is exponential, right is
linear? lots of questions. one more: how are you fixed for oscillator
chips?

Bill

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "kent_spong" <kent_spong@...> wrote:

>
> I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message before.
> 
> I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs that me and 
> RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80 Level 3's.   
> They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs was really 
> high.
> They work out at about �40 each.
>

Yes, £40 GBP
yes, I can ship to the states
yes, they are easy to fit.
yes, they are a direct replacment.
yes, they still have the same functionality and you do not have to 
reajust anything on the BA board.

As for VCO's

Yamaha Japan are listening at last. I am putting together a list of 
people who want to buy full sets of the final rock steady issue 
IG00153. Once I get enough people signed up they will do a run of 
them. I got Yamaha UK as go between, but I need more guy's on the 
list.

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "billwolfer" <bill.wolfer@...> 
wrote:
>
> Kent, in my browser that came out as ?40. Are we talking pounds,
> dollars or euros? Can you ship to the states? How hard are they to 
put
> into place? Do they still have the same functionality in that you 
can
> start anywhere on the ribbon, moving left is exponential, right is
> linear? lots of questions. one more: how are you fixed for 
oscillator
> chips?
> 
> Bill
> 
> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "kent_spong" <kent_spong@> 
wrote:
> >
> > I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message before.
> > 
> > I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs that me 
and 
> > RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80 Level 
3's.   
> > They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs was 
really 

> > high.
> > They work out at about �40 each.
> >
>

kent, thanks for this. i am also looking for one VCO and one VCF chip. do you know how much we are talking per chip on the Yamaha re-run? if it is reasonable,  i would buy a set as spares. 

also, what about spares on the VCF and VCA chips? thanks.

kent_spong <kent_spong@...> wrote:                               Yes, �40 GBP
 yes, I can ship to the states
 yes, they are easy to fit.
 yes, they are a direct replacment.
 yes, they still have the same functionality and you do not have to 
 reajust anything on the BA board.
 
 As for VCO's
 
 Yamaha Japan are listening at last. I am putting together a list of 
 people who want to buy full sets of the final rock steady issue 
 IG00153. Once I get enough people signed up they will do a run of 
 them. I got Yamaha UK as go between, but I need more guy's on the 
 list.
 
 --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "billwolfer" <bill.wolfer@...> 
 wrote:
 >
 > Kent, in my browser that came out as ?40. Are we talking pounds,
 > dollars or euros? Can you ship to the states? How hard are they to 
 put
 > into place? Do they still have the same functionality in that you 
 can
 > start anywhere on the ribbon, moving left is exponential, right is
 > linear? lots of questions. one more: how are you fixed for 
 oscillator
 > chips?
 > 
 > Bill
 > 
 > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "kent_spong" <kent_spong@> 
 wrote:
 > >
 > > I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message before.
 > > 
 > > I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs that me 
 and 
 > > RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80 Level 
 3's.   
 > > They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs was 
 really 
 > > high.
 > > They work out at about �40 each.
 > >
 >
 
 
     
                               

       
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That's great news Kent. And we really do need to know how much they
will be - I'm sure you'll get more people on the list - world wide -
if they have an idea how much ££'s they'll need to commit.

Cheers,
TOM



--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "kent_spong" <kent_spong@...> wrote:

> As for VCO's
> 
> Yamaha Japan are listening at last. I am putting together a list of 
> people who want to buy full sets of the final rock steady issue 
> IG00153. Once I get enough people signed up they will do a run of 
> them. I got Yamaha UK as go between, but I need more guy's on the 
> list.

The idea is this,

If we have success with a VCO run then it will be alot easier to get 
Yamaha to do VCF's and so on.

As for price,

They won't say. But the question is this:  

What is a reasonable price for a VCO. How much do you think it would 
cost right now to get hold of just one 153. There are guy's in the 
UK now who are buying CS5's for £200 ( $400 ) just to get the one 
VCO out of it to put in their CS80. I could be just wasting my time 
here, trying to get this done. But one thing is for sure, a CS80 
with a voice out is a 200lb door stop. This is why I am trying to 
get some big names on the list who may want more than one set. The 
other problem is that analouge costs more in the EU than the US most 
of the time. So there is that to compeat with too.

As for me,

I am down to my last few 153's and I still have 16 CS80's to get 
done. :(


--- In yamahacs80@...m, rj krohn <r_j_d_2.phila@...> 
wrote:
>
> kent, thanks for this. i am also looking for one VCO and one VCF 
chip. do you know how much we are talking per chip on the Yamaha re-
run? if it is reasonable,  i would buy a set as spares. 
> 
> also, what about spares on the VCF and VCA chips? thanks.
> 
> kent_spong <kent_spong@...> wrote:                               
Yes, �40 GBP
>  yes, I can ship to the states
>  yes, they are easy to fit.
>  yes, they are a direct replacment.
>  yes, they still have the same functionality and you do not have 
to 
>  reajust anything on the BA board.
>  
>  As for VCO's
>  
>  Yamaha Japan are listening at last. I am putting together a list 
of 
>  people who want to buy full sets of the final rock steady issue 
>  IG00153. Once I get enough people signed up they will do a run of 
>  them. I got Yamaha UK as go between, but I need more guy's on the 
>  list.
>  
>  --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "billwolfer" <bill.wolfer@> 
>  wrote:
>  >
>  > Kent, in my browser that came out as ?40. Are we talking pounds,
>  > dollars or euros? Can you ship to the states? How hard are they 
to 
>  put
>  > into place? Do they still have the same functionality in that 
you 
>  can
>  > start anywhere on the ribbon, moving left is exponential, right 
is
>  > linear? lots of questions. one more: how are you fixed for 
>  oscillator
>  > chips?
>  > 
>  > Bill
>  > 
>  > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "kent_spong" <kent_spong@> 
>  wrote:
>  > >
>  > > I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message 
before.
>  > > 
>  > > I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs that me 
>  and 
>  > > RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80 
Level 
>  3's.   
>  > > They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs was 
>  really 
>  > > high.
>  > > They work out at about �40 each.
>  > >
>  >
>  
>  
>      
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I would buy 1-5 of them depending on the price.
Same for the VCF.

Thanks
Rory McDonald


On Nov 19, 2007, at 12:52 PM, kent_spong wrote:

> The idea is this,
>
> If we have success with a VCO run then it will be alot easier to get
> Yamaha to do VCF's and so on.
>
> As for price,
>
> They won't say. But the question is this:
>
> What is a reasonable price for a VCO. How much do you think it would
> cost right now to get hold of just one 153. There are guy's in the
> UK now who are buying CS5's for £200 ( $400 ) just to get the one
> VCO out of it to put in their CS80. I could be just wasting my time
> here, trying to get this done. But one thing is for sure, a CS80
> with a voice out is a 200lb door stop. This is why I am trying to
> get some big names on the list who may want more than one set. The
> other problem is that analouge costs more in the EU than the US most
> of the time. So there is that to compeat with too.
>
> As for me,
>
> I am down to my last few 153's and I still have 16 CS80's to get
> done. :(
>
> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, rj krohn <r_j_d_2.phila@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > kent, thanks for this. i am also looking for one VCO and one VCF
> chip. do you know how much we are talking per chip on the Yamaha re-
> run? if it is reasonable, i would buy a set as spares.
> >
> > also, what about spares on the VCF and VCA chips? thanks.
> >
> > kent_spong <kent_spong@...> wrote:
> Yes, �40 GBP
> > yes, I can ship to the states
> > yes, they are easy to fit.
> > yes, they are a direct replacment.
> > yes, they still have the same functionality and you do not have
> to
> > reajust anything on the BA board.
> >
> > As for VCO's
> >
> > Yamaha Japan are listening at last. I am putting together a list
> of
> > people who want to buy full sets of the final rock steady issue
> > IG00153. Once I get enough people signed up they will do a run of
> > them. I got Yamaha UK as go between, but I need more guy's on the
> > list.
> >
> > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "billwolfer" <bill.wolfer@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Kent, in my browser that came out as ?40. Are we talking pounds,
> > > dollars or euros? Can you ship to the states? How hard are they
> to
> > put
> > > into place? Do they still have the same functionality in that
> you
> > can
> > > start anywhere on the ribbon, moving left is exponential, right
> is
> > > linear? lots of questions. one more: how are you fixed for
> > oscillator
> > > chips?
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "kent_spong" <kent_spong@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message
> before.
> > > >
> > > > I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs that me
> > and
> > > > RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80
> Level
> > 3's.
> > > > They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs was
> > really
> > > > high.
> > > > They work out at about �40 each.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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i would also buy 1-5 depending on price. if we were talking $25, i would buy 10. if we were talking $50, i would buy 1-5. same with VCF/VCA.




"rorymcd@..." <rorymcd@...> wrote:                               I would buy 1-5 of them depending on the price.
 Same for the VCF.
 
 Thanks
 Rory McDonald
 
 On Nov 19, 2007, at 12:52 PM, kent_spong wrote:
 
 > The idea is this,
 >
 > If we have success with a VCO run then it will be alot easier to get
 > Yamaha to do VCF's and so on.
 >
 > As for price,
 >
 > They won't say. But the question is this:
 >
 > What is a reasonable price for a VCO. How much do you think it would
 > cost right now to get hold of just one 153. There are guy's in the
 > UK now who are buying CS5's for �200 ( $400 ) just to get the one
 > VCO out of it to put in their CS80. I could be just wasting my time
 > here, trying to get this done. But one thing is for sure, a CS80
 > with a voice out is a 200lb door stop. This is why I am trying to
 > get some big names on the list who may want more than one set. The
 > other problem is that analouge costs more in the EU than the US most
 > of the time. So there is that to compeat with too.
 >
 > As for me,
 >
 > I am down to my last few 153's and I still have 16 CS80's to get
 > done. :(
 >
 > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, rj krohn <r_j_d_2.phila@...>
 > wrote:
 > >
 > > kent, thanks for this. i am also looking for one VCO and one VCF
 > chip. do you know how much we are talking per chip on the Yamaha re-
 > run? if it is reasonable, i would buy a set as spares.
 > >
 > > also, what about spares on the VCF and VCA chips? thanks.
 > >
 > > kent_spong <kent_spong@...> wrote:
 > Yes, �40 GBP
 > > yes, I can ship to the states
 > > yes, they are easy to fit.
 > > yes, they are a direct replacment.
 > > yes, they still have the same functionality and you do not have
 > to
 > > reajust anything on the BA board.
 > >
 > > As for VCO's
 > >
 > > Yamaha Japan are listening at last. I am putting together a list
 > of
 > > people who want to buy full sets of the final rock steady issue
 > > IG00153. Once I get enough people signed up they will do a run of
 > > them. I got Yamaha UK as go between, but I need more guy's on the
 > > list.
 > >
 > > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "billwolfer" <bill.wolfer@>
 > > wrote:
 > > >
 > > > Kent, in my browser that came out as ?40. Are we talking pounds,
 > > > dollars or euros? Can you ship to the states? How hard are they
 > to
 > > put
 > > > into place? Do they still have the same functionality in that
 > you
 > > can
 > > > start anywhere on the ribbon, moving left is exponential, right
 > is
 > > > linear? lots of questions. one more: how are you fixed for
 > > oscillator
 > > > chips?
 > > >
 > > > Bill
 > > >
 > > > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "kent_spong" <kent_spong@>
 > > wrote:
 > > > >
 > > > > I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message
 > before.
 > > > >
 > > > > I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs that me
 > > and
 > > > > RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80
 > Level
 > > 3's.
 > > > > They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs was
 > > really
 > > > > high.
 > > > > They work out at about �40 each.
 > > > >
 > > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
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Kent, does Yamaha really still have the facilities to make IG chips? These 
were made on very, very old machines using very old fashioned process 
techniques.

Possibly they have a stock of unbonded dies / wafers they simply need to 
package up.

On Nov 19 2007, kent_spong wrote:

>Yes, £40 GBP
>yes, I can ship to the states
>yes, they are easy to fit.
>yes, they are a direct replacment.
>yes, they still have the same functionality and you do not have to 
>reajust anything on the BA board.
>
>As for VCO's
>
>Yamaha Japan are listening at last. I am putting together a list of 
>people who want to buy full sets of the final rock steady issue 
>IG00153. Once I get enough people signed up they will do a run of 
>them. I got Yamaha UK as go between, but I need more guy's on the 
>list.
>
>--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "billwolfer" <bill.wolfer@...> 
>wrote:
>>
>> Kent, in my browser that came out as ?40. Are we talking pounds,
>> dollars or euros? Can you ship to the states? How hard are they to 
>put
>> into place? Do they still have the same functionality in that you 
>can
>> start anywhere on the ribbon, moving left is exponential, right is
>> linear? lots of questions. one more: how are you fixed for 
>oscillator
>> chips?
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "kent_spong" <kent_spong@> 
>wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message before.
>> > 
>> > I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs that me 
>and 
>> > RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80 Level 
>3's.   
>> > They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs was 
>really 
>> > high.
>> > They work out at about �40 each.
>> >
>>
>
>
>

Ditto that. 
J


On 11/19/07 9:56 PM, "rorymcd@..." <rorymcd@...> wrote:

>  
>  
>  
> 
> I would buy 1-5 of them depending on the price.
> Same for the VCF.
> 
> Thanks
> Rory McDonald
> 
> On Nov 19, 2007, at 12:52 PM, kent_spong wrote:
> 
>> > The idea is this,
>> >
>> > If we have success with a VCO run then it will be alot easier to get
>> > Yamaha to do VCF's and so on.
>> >
>> > As for price,
>> >
>> > They won't say. But the question is this:
>> >
>> > What is a reasonable price for a VCO. How much do you think it would
>> > cost right now to get hold of just one 153. There are guy's in the
>> > UK now who are buying CS5's for £200 ( $400 ) just to get the one
>> > VCO out of it to put in their CS80. I could be just wasting my time
>> > here, trying to get this done. But one thing is for sure, a CS80
>> > with a voice out is a 200lb door stop. This is why I am trying to
>> > get some big names on the list who may want more than one set. The
>> > other problem is that analouge costs more in the EU than the US most
>> > of the time. So there is that to compeat with too.
>> >
>> > As for me,
>> >
>> > I am down to my last few 153's and I still have 16 CS80's to get
>> > done. :(
>> >
>> > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com> ,
>> rj krohn <r_j_d_2.phila@...>
>> > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > kent, thanks for this. i am also looking for one VCO and one VCF
>> > chip. do you know how much we are talking per chip on the Yamaha re-
>> > run? if it is reasonable, i would buy a set as spares.
>>> > >
>>> > > also, what about spares on the VCF and VCA chips? thanks.
>>> > >
>>> > > kent_spong <kent_spong@...> wrote:
>> > Yes, �40 GBP
>>> > > yes, I can ship to the states
>>> > > yes, they are easy to fit.
>>> > > yes, they are a direct replacment.
>>> > > yes, they still have the same functionality and you do not have
>> > to
>>> > > reajust anything on the BA board.
>>> > >
>>> > > As for VCO's
>>> > >
>>> > > Yamaha Japan are listening at last. I am putting together a list
>> > of
>>> > > people who want to buy full sets of the final rock steady issue
>>> > > IG00153. Once I get enough people signed up they will do a run of
>>> > > them. I got Yamaha UK as go between, but I need more guy's on the
>>> > > list.
>>> > >
>>> > > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> , "billwolfer" <bill.wolfer@>
>>> > > wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Kent, in my browser that came out as ?40. Are we talking pounds,
>>>> > > > dollars or euros? Can you ship to the states? How hard are they
>> > to
>>> > > put
>>>> > > > into place? Do they still have the same functionality in that
>> > you
>>> > > can
>>>> > > > start anywhere on the ribbon, moving left is exponential, right
>> > is
>>>> > > > linear? lots of questions. one more: how are you fixed for
>>> > > oscillator
>>>> > > > chips?
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Bill
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
>>>> <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com> , "kent_spong" <kent_spong@>
>>> > > wrote:
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > > I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message
>> > before.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > > I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs that me
>>> > > and
>>>>> > > > > RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80
>> > Level
>>> > > 3's.
>>>>> > > > > They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs was
>>> > > really
>>>>> > > > > high.
>>>>> > > > > They work out at about �40 each.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
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>> > Mobile. Try it now.
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>> >
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Yes thats the impression I got from Yamaha UK

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, Richard Atkinson <rga24@...> 
wrote:
>
> Kent, does Yamaha really still have the facilities to make IG 
chips? These 
> were made on very, very old machines using very old fashioned 
process 
> techniques.
> 
> Possibly they have a stock of unbonded dies / wafers they simply 
need to 
> package up.
> 
> 
> On Nov 19 2007, kent_spong wrote:
> 
> >Yes, £40 GBP
> >yes, I can ship to the states
> >yes, they are easy to fit.
> >yes, they are a direct replacment.
> >yes, they still have the same functionality and you do not have 
to 
> >reajust anything on the BA board.
> >
> >As for VCO's
> >
> >Yamaha Japan are listening at last. I am putting together a list 
of 
> >people who want to buy full sets of the final rock steady issue 
> >IG00153. Once I get enough people signed up they will do a run of 
> >them. I got Yamaha UK as go between, but I need more guy's on the 
> >list.
> >
> >--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "billwolfer" <bill.wolfer@> 
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> Kent, in my browser that came out as ?40. Are we talking pounds,
> >> dollars or euros? Can you ship to the states? How hard are they 
to 
> >put
> >> into place? Do they still have the same functionality in that 
you 
> >can
> >> start anywhere on the ribbon, moving left is exponential, right 
is
> >> linear? lots of questions. one more: how are you fixed for 
> >oscillator
> >> chips?
> >> 
> >> Bill
> >> 
> >> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "kent_spong" <kent_spong@> 
> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message 
before.
> >> > 
> >> > I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs that me 
> >and 
> >> > RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80 
Level 

> >3's.   
> >> > They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs was 
> >really 
> >> > high.
> >> > They work out at about �40 each.
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

Ill buy a set kent, depending on price obviously.
Whats the minimum order they need, how many pieces/ics? 


> 
> Yes thats the impression I got from Yamaha UK 
> 
> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, Richard Atkinson <rga24@...> 
> wrote:
>>
>> Kent, does Yamaha really still have the facilities to make IG 
> chips? These 
>> were made on very, very old machines using very old fashioned 
> process 
>> techniques. 
>> 
>> Possibly they have a stock of unbonded dies / wafers they simply 
> need to 
>> package up. 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 19 2007, kent_spong wrote: 
>> 
>> >Yes, �40 GBP
>> >yes, I can ship to the states
>> >yes, they are easy to fit.
>> >yes, they are a direct replacment.
>> >yes, they still have the same functionality and you do not have 
> to 
>> >reajust anything on the BA board.
>> >
>> >As for VCO's
>> >
>> >Yamaha Japan are listening at last. I am putting together a list 
> of 
>> >people who want to buy full sets of the final rock steady issue 
>> >IG00153. Once I get enough people signed up they will do a run of 
>> >them. I got Yamaha UK as go between, but I need more guy's on the 
>> >list.
>> >
>> >--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "billwolfer" <bill.wolfer@> 
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Kent, in my browser that came out as ?40. Are we talking pounds,
>> >> dollars or euros? Can you ship to the states? How hard are they 
> to 
>> >put
>> >> into place? Do they still have the same functionality in that 
> you 
>> >can
>> >> start anywhere on the ribbon, moving left is exponential, right 
> is
>> >> linear? lots of questions. one more: how are you fixed for 
>> >oscillator
>> >> chips?
>> >> 
>> >> Bill
>> >> 
>> >> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "kent_spong" <kent_spong@> 
>> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message 
> before.
>> >> > 
>> >> > I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs that me 
>> >and 
>> >> > RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80 
> Level 
>> >3's.   
>> >> > They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs was 
>> >really 
>> >> > high.
>> >> > They work out at about �40 each.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > 
>>
>  
> 
 


Regards,
Rob Belcher
www.myspace.com/duplx

OK Kent. If you need to reach a minimum order quantity, my company 
(Atkinsoft Ltd) is willing to stump up the capital in order to get this 
done, and sell the chips at an appropriate price over the coming years.

Please contact me in private mail if you this will help.

On Nov 19 2007, kent_spong wrote:

>
>Yes thats the impression I got from Yamaha UK
>
>--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, Richard Atkinson <rga24@...> 
>wrote:
>>
>> Kent, does Yamaha really still have the facilities to make IG 
>chips? These 
>> were made on very, very old machines using very old fashioned 
>process 
>> techniques.
>> 
>> Possibly they have a stock of unbonded dies / wafers they simply 
>need to 
>> package up.
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 19 2007, kent_spong wrote:
>> 
>> >Yes, £40 GBP
>> >yes, I can ship to the states
>> >yes, they are easy to fit.
>> >yes, they are a direct replacment.
>> >yes, they still have the same functionality and you do not have 
>to 
>> >reajust anything on the BA board.
>> >
>> >As for VCO's
>> >
>> >Yamaha Japan are listening at last. I am putting together a list 
>of 
>> >people who want to buy full sets of the final rock steady issue 
>> >IG00153. Once I get enough people signed up they will do a run of 
>> >them. I got Yamaha UK as go between, but I need more guy's on the 
>> >list.
>> >
>> >--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "billwolfer" <bill.wolfer@> 
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Kent, in my browser that came out as ?40. Are we talking pounds,
>> >> dollars or euros? Can you ship to the states? How hard are they 
>to 
>> >put
>> >> into place? Do they still have the same functionality in that 
>you 
>> >can
>> >> start anywhere on the ribbon, moving left is exponential, right 
>is
>> >> linear? lots of questions. one more: how are you fixed for 
>> >oscillator
>> >> chips?
>> >> 
>> >> Bill
>> >> 
>> >> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "kent_spong" <kent_spong@> 
>> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message 
>before.
>> >> > 
>> >> > I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs that me 
>> >and 
>> >> > RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80 
>Level 
>> >3's.   
>> >> > They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs was 
>> >really 
>> >> > high.
>> >> > They work out at about �40 each.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>

I can understand how no one wants' to commit to something like this, 
I sure as hell wouldn't.

But lets be sensible about this please. $25 for a 153, yeah good 
luck finding that buddy. You can't get a CEM3340 for that these days.

The point here is not how much they are going to cost. The point is 
that Yamaha make them or at the very least sell the die to someone 
who will and that's all. I am not taking orders or make a profit out 
of it, I am simply trying to build a voice loud enough that Yamaha 
will take full notice of. I truly care deeply about the CS80, it is 
the best synth ever made. I want these lush monsters to continue to 
be a force in music for as long as possible. Yamaha are talking bums 
on seats as you would expect, after all they are a business. Hence 
they want to know how many ic's they need to make for it to be worth 
their while. I'm just a synth tech trying to get something done 
about it.



--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, Richard Atkinson <rga24@...> 
wrote:
>
> OK Kent. If you need to reach a minimum order quantity, my company 
> (Atkinsoft Ltd) is willing to stump up the capital in order to get 
this 
> done, and sell the chips at an appropriate price over the coming 
years.
> 
> Please contact me in private mail if you this will help.
> 
> 
> On Nov 19 2007, kent_spong wrote:
> 
> >
> >Yes thats the impression I got from Yamaha UK
> >
> >--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, Richard Atkinson <rga24@> 
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> Kent, does Yamaha really still have the facilities to make IG 
> >chips? These 
> >> were made on very, very old machines using very old fashioned 
> >process 
> >> techniques.
> >> 
> >> Possibly they have a stock of unbonded dies / wafers they 
simply 
> >need to 
> >> package up.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Nov 19 2007, kent_spong wrote:
> >> 
> >> >Yes, £40 GBP
> >> >yes, I can ship to the states
> >> >yes, they are easy to fit.
> >> >yes, they are a direct replacment.
> >> >yes, they still have the same functionality and you do not 
have 
> >to 
> >> >reajust anything on the BA board.
> >> >
> >> >As for VCO's
> >> >
> >> >Yamaha Japan are listening at last. I am putting together a 
list 
> >of 
> >> >people who want to buy full sets of the final rock steady 
issue 
> >> >IG00153. Once I get enough people signed up they will do a run 
of 
> >> >them. I got Yamaha UK as go between, but I need more guy's on 
the 
> >> >list.
> >> >
> >> >--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "billwolfer" <bill.wolfer@> 
> >> >wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Kent, in my browser that came out as ?40. Are we talking 
pounds,
> >> >> dollars or euros? Can you ship to the states? How hard are 
they 
> >to 
> >> >put
> >> >> into place? Do they still have the same functionality in 
that 
> >you 
> >> >can
> >> >> start anywhere on the ribbon, moving left is exponential, 
right 
> >is
> >> >> linear? lots of questions. one more: how are you fixed for 
> >> >oscillator
> >> >> chips?
> >> >> 
> >> >> Bill
> >> >> 
> >> >> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "kent_spong" 
<kent_spong@> 
> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message 
> >before.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs that 
me 
> >> >and 
> >> >> > RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80 
> >Level 
> >> >3's.   
> >> >> > They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs 
was 

> >> >really 
> >> >> > high.
> >> >> > They work out at about �40 each.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

Same here.

JH.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeroen" <jeroen@...>
To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] iG00153 Chips


Ditto that.
J


On 11/19/07 9:56 PM, "rorymcd@..." <rorymcd@...> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> I would buy 1-5 of them depending on the price.
> Same for the VCF.
>
> Thanks
> Rory McDonald
>
> On Nov 19, 2007, at 12:52 PM, kent_spong wrote:
>
>> > The idea is this,
>> >
>> > If we have success with a VCO run then it will be alot easier to get
>> > Yamaha to do VCF's and so on.
>> >
>> > As for price,
>> >
>> > They won't say. But the question is this:
>> >
>> > What is a reasonable price for a VCO. How much do you think it would
>> > cost right now to get hold of just one 153. There are guy's in the
>> > UK now who are buying CS5's for \ufffd200 ( $400 ) just to get the one
>> > VCO out of it to put in their CS80. I could be just wasting my time
>> > here, trying to get this done. But one thing is for sure, a CS80
>> > with a voice out is a 200lb door stop. This is why I am trying to
>> > get some big names on the list who may want more than one set. The
>> > other problem is that analouge costs more in the EU than the US most
>> > of the time. So there is that to compeat with too.
>> >
>> > As for me,
>> >
>> > I am down to my last few 153's and I still have 16 CS80's to get
>> > done. :(
>> >
>> > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com> 
>> > ,
>> rj krohn <r_j_d_2.phila@...>
>> > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > kent, thanks for this. i am also looking for one VCO and one VCF
>> > chip. do you know how much we are talking per chip on the Yamaha re-
>> > run? if it is reasonable, i would buy a set as spares.
>>> > >
>>> > > also, what about spares on the VCF and VCA chips? thanks.
>>> > >
>>> > > kent_spong <kent_spong@...> wrote:
>> > Yes, \ufffd40 GBP
>>> > > yes, I can ship to the states
>>> > > yes, they are easy to fit.
>>> > > yes, they are a direct replacment.
>>> > > yes, they still have the same functionality and you do not have
>> > to
>>> > > reajust anything on the BA board.
>>> > >
>>> > > As for VCO's
>>> > >
>>> > > Yamaha Japan are listening at last. I am putting together a list
>> > of
>>> > > people who want to buy full sets of the final rock steady issue
>>> > > IG00153. Once I get enough people signed up they will do a run of
>>> > > them. I got Yamaha UK as go between, but I need more guy's on the
>>> > > list.
>>> > >
>>> > > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
>>> > > <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> , "billwolfer" <bill.wolfer@>
>>> > > wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Kent, in my browser that came out as ?40. Are we talking pounds,
>>>> > > > dollars or euros? Can you ship to the states? How hard are they
>> > to
>>> > > put
>>>> > > > into place? Do they still have the same functionality in that
>> > you
>>> > > can
>>>> > > > start anywhere on the ribbon, moving left is exponential, right
>> > is
>>>> > > > linear? lots of questions. one more: how are you fixed for
>>> > > oscillator
>>>> > > > chips?
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Bill
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
>>>> <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com> , "kent_spong" <kent_spong@>
>>> > > wrote:
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > > I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message
>> > before.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > > I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs that me
>>> > > and
>>>>> > > > > RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80
>> > Level
>>> > > 3's.
>>>>> > > > > They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs was
>>> > > really
>>>>> > > > > high.
>>>>> > > > > They work out at about \ufffd40 each.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > ---------------------------------
>>> > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo
>> > Mobile. Try it now.
>>> > >
>>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
> rorymcd@... <mailto:rorymcd%40mac.com>
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>
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I've had experience with Yamaha in the past when trying to obtain some of 
their YM2413 low cost FM synthesis chips. Back then I wasn't in a position 
to order from them in the quantity required, which is probably a good thing 
because in the end I found it easy to source YM2413 chips in 
already-finished devices and I would have been stuck with hundreds of nasty 
FM chips!

But IG series chips are another matter, and CS-5s deserve not to be 
sacrificed in order to rescue CS-80s! (In fact, what about making it a 7 
voice CS-80?)

Anyway, do you have an idea what their minimum order quantity / amount 
would be? Would it need to be all the same chip or could the numbers be 
made up using a mix of different IG series chips?

Richard

On Nov 19 2007, kent_spong wrote:

>I can understand how no one wants' to commit to something like this, 
>I sure as hell wouldn't.
>
>But lets be sensible about this please. $25 for a 153, yeah good 
>luck finding that buddy. You can't get a CEM3340 for that these days.
>
>The point here is not how much they are going to cost. The point is 
>that Yamaha make them or at the very least sell the die to someone 
>who will and that's all. I am not taking orders or make a profit out 
>of it, I am simply trying to build a voice loud enough that Yamaha 
>will take full notice of. I truly care deeply about the CS80, it is 
>the best synth ever made. I want these lush monsters to continue to 
>be a force in music for as long as possible. Yamaha are talking bums 
>on seats as you would expect, after all they are a business. Hence 
>they want to know how many ic's they need to make for it to be worth 
>their while. I'm just a synth tech trying to get something done 
>about it.
>
>
>
>--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, Richard Atkinson <rga24@...> 
>wrote:
>>
>> OK Kent. If you need to reach a minimum order quantity, my company 
>> (Atkinsoft Ltd) is willing to stump up the capital in order to get 
>this 
>> done, and sell the chips at an appropriate price over the coming 
>years.
>> 
>> Please contact me in private mail if you this will help.
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 19 2007, kent_spong wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> >Yes thats the impression I got from Yamaha UK
>> >
>> >--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, Richard Atkinson <rga24@> 
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Kent, does Yamaha really still have the facilities to make IG 
>> >chips? These 
>> >> were made on very, very old machines using very old fashioned 
>> >process 
>> >> techniques.
>> >> 
>> >> Possibly they have a stock of unbonded dies / wafers they 
>simply 
>> >need to 
>> >> package up.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> On Nov 19 2007, kent_spong wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> >Yes, £40 GBP
>> >> >yes, I can ship to the states
>> >> >yes, they are easy to fit.
>> >> >yes, they are a direct replacment.
>> >> >yes, they still have the same functionality and you do not 
>have 
>> >to 
>> >> >reajust anything on the BA board.
>> >> >
>> >> >As for VCO's
>> >> >
>> >> >Yamaha Japan are listening at last. I am putting together a 
>list 
>> >of 
>> >> >people who want to buy full sets of the final rock steady 
>issue 
>> >> >IG00153. Once I get enough people signed up they will do a run 
>of 
>> >> >them. I got Yamaha UK as go between, but I need more guy's on 
>the 
>> >> >list.
>> >> >
>> >> >--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "billwolfer" <bill.wolfer@> 
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Kent, in my browser that came out as ?40. Are we talking 
>pounds,
>> >> >> dollars or euros? Can you ship to the states? How hard are 
>they 
>> >to 
>> >> >put
>> >> >> into place? Do they still have the same functionality in 
>that 
>> >you 
>> >> >can
>> >> >> start anywhere on the ribbon, moving left is exponential, 
>right 
>> >is
>> >> >> linear? lots of questions. one more: how are you fixed for 
>> >> >oscillator
>> >> >> chips?
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Bill
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "kent_spong" 
><kent_spong@> 
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message 
>> >before.
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs that 
>me 
>> >> >and 
>> >> >> > RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80 
>> >Level 
>> >> >3's.   
>> >> >> > They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs 
>was 
>> >> >really 
>> >> >> > high.
>> >> >> > They work out at about �40 each.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>

kent_spong wrote:
> I can understand how no one wants' to commit to something like this, 
> I sure as hell wouldn't.
>
> But lets be sensible about this please. $25 for a 153, yeah good 
> luck finding that buddy. You can't get a CEM3340 for that these days.
>   
I can't (unfortunately) see them going for under US$100 each - possibly
more.  You end up with a really bad suppy/demand equation. If you want
to redo the whole set, to get a stable, reliable CS80, you're talking
close to US$2k for the job.  I can't see there being more than 25, or
so, pros willing to shell out that kind of money, so that's only 400
parts.  On the other hand, if they're just used to replace the
occasional dead chip, it's a much smaller quantity, so they'd be even
more expensive. 

Kent - I wish you lots of luck on this, but I don't see how it could be
done at any cost that makes sense.  Please prove me wrong!

 David

Same here....

and some waveshape ships as well....

-----Original message-----
From: Jeroen jeroen@...
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:21:50 -0700
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] iG00153 Chips

Ditto that. 
J


On 11/19/07 9:56 PM, "rorymcd@..." wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> I would buy 1-5 of them depending on the price.
> Same for the VCF.
> 
> Thanks
> Rory McDonald
> 
> On Nov 19, 2007, at 12:52 PM, kent_spong wrote:
> 
>> > The idea is this,
>> >
>> > If we have success with a VCO run then it will be alot easier to
get
>> > Yamaha to do VCF's and so on.
>> >
>> > As for price,
>> >
>> > They won't say. But the question is this:
>> >
>>> What is a reasonable price for a VCO. How much do you think it
would
>> > cost right now to get hold of just one 153. There are guy's in
the
>> > UK now who are buying CS5's for £200 ( $400 ) just to get the
one
>> > VCO out of it to put in their CS80. I could be just wasting my
time
>> > here, trying to get this done. But one thing is for sure, a CS80
>> > with a voice out is a 200lb door stop. This is why I am trying to
>> > get some big names on the list who may want more than one set.
The
>> > other problem is that analouge costs more in the EU than the US
most
>> > of the time. So there is that to compeat with too.
>> >
>> > As for me,
>> >
>> > I am down to my last few 153's and I still have 16 CS80's to get
>> > done. :(
>> >
>> > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com,
>> rj krohn 
>> > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > kent, thanks for this. i am also looking for one VCO and one
VCF
>> > chip. do you know how much we are talking per chip on the Yamaha
re-
>> > run? if it is reasonable, i would buy a set as spares.
>>> > >
>>> > > also, what about spares on the VCF and VCA chips? thanks.
>>> > >
>>> > > kent_spong wrote:
>> > Yes, �40 GBP
>>> > > yes, I can ship to the states
>>> > > yes, they are easy to fit.
>>> > > yes, they are a direct replacment.
>>> > > yes, they still have the same functionality and you do not
have
>> > to
>>> > > reajust anything on the BA board.
>>>> >
>>> > > As for VCO's
>>> > >
>>> > > Yamaha Japan are listening at last. I am putting together a
list
>> > of
>>> > > people who want to buy full sets of the final rock steady
issue
>>> > > IG00153. Once I get enough people signed up they will do a run
of
>>> > > them. I got Yamaha UK as go between, but I need more guy's on
the
>>> > > list.
>>> > >
>>> > > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
>>> , "billwolfer" 
>>> > > wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Kent, in my browser that came out as ?40. Are we talking
pounds,
>>>> > > > dollars or euros? Can you ship to the states? How hard are
they
>> > to
>>> > > put
>>>> > > > into place? Do they still have the same functionality in
that
>> > you
>>> > > can
>>>> > > > start anywhere on the ribbon, moving left is exponential,
right
>> > is
>>>> > > > linear? lots of questions. one more: how are you fixed for
>>> > > oscillator
>>>> > > > chips?
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Bill
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
>>>> , "kent_spong" 
>>> > > wrote:
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > > I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message
>> > before.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > > I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs
that me
>>> > > and
>>>>> > > > > RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80
>> > Level
>>> > > 3's.
>>>>> > > > > They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs
was
>>> > > really
>>>>> > > > > high.
>>>>> > > > > They work out at about �40 each.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > ---------------------------------
>>> > > Be a better sports nut! Let yourteams follow you with Yahoo
>> > Mobile. Try it now.
>>> > >
>>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > 
> 
> rorymcd@... 
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And may I add, that the odd $100.00 isn't much to spend for an out of
production chip....if it is guaranteed to work....

15 years ago I spent close to $40.00 each x 16 of them... only 14 of
the 16 worked, and when I asked for 2 more, the supplier couldnt
get them.... all I got was $80 cash back and a 7/8ths modified
CS80......I left the older chips on M boards 8 and 16.........

-----Original message-----
From: "Laurie Curry" laurie@...
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:50:28 -0700
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] iG00153 Chips


Same here....

and some waveshape ships as well....
-----Original message-----
From: Jeroen jeroen@...
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:21:50 -0700
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] iG00153 Chips

Ditto that. 
J


On 11/19/07 9:56 PM, "rorymcd@..." wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> I would buy 1-5 of them depending on the price.
> Same for the VCF.
> 
> Thanks
> Rory McDonald
> 
> On Nov 19, 2007, at 12:52 PM, kent_spong wrote:
> 
>> > The idea is this,
>> >
>> > If we have success with a VCO run then it will be alot easier to
get
>> > Yamaha to do VCF's and so on.
>> >
>> > As for price,
>> >
>> > They won't say. But the question is this:
>> >
>>> What is a reasonable price for a VCO. How much do you think it
would
>> > cost right now to get hold of just one 153. There are guy's in
the
>> > UK now who are buying CS5's for £200 ( $400 ) just to get the
one
>> > VCO out of it to put in their CS80. I could be just wasting my
time
>> > here,trying to get this done. But one thing is for sure, a CS80
>> > with a voice out is a 200lb door stop. This is why I am trying to
>> > get some big names on the list who may want more than one set.
The
>> > other problem is that analouge costs more in the EU than the US
most
>> > of the time. So there is that to compeat with too.
>> >
>> > As for me,
>> >
>> > I am down to my last few 153's and I still have 16 CS80's to get
>> > done. :(
>> >
>> > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com,
>> rj krohn 
>> > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > kent, thanks for this. i am also looking for one VCO and one
VCF
>> > chip. do you know how much we are talking per chip on the Yamaha
re-
>> > run? if it is reasonable, i would buy a set as spares.
>>> > >
>>> > > also, what about spares on the VCF and VCA chips? thanks.
>>> > >
>>> > > kent_spong wrote:
>> > Yes, �40 GBP
>>> > > yes, I can ship to the states
>>> > > yes, they are easy to fit.
>>> > > yes, they are a direct replacment.
>>> > > yes, they still have the same functionality and you do not
have
>> > to
>>> > > reajust anything on the BA board.
>>>> >
>>> > > As for VCO's
>>> > >
>>> > > Yamaha Japan are listening at last. I am putting together a
list
>> > of
>>> > > people who want to buy full sets of the final rock steady
issue
>>> > > IG00153. Once I get enough people signed up they will do a run
of
>>> > > them. I got Yamaha UK as go between, but I need more guy's on
the
>>> > > list.
>>> > >
>>> > > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
>>> , "billwolfer" 
>>> > > wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Kent, in my browser that came out as ?40. Are we talking
pounds,
>>>> > > > dollars or euros? Can you ship to the states? How hard are
they
>> > to
>>> > > put
>>>> > > > into place? Do they still have the same functionality in
that
>> > you
>>> > > can
>>>> > > > start anywhere on the ribbon, moving left is exponential,
right
>> > is
>>>> > > > linear? lots of questions. one more: how are you fixed for
>>> > > oscillator
>>>> > > > chips?
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Bill
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
>>>> , "kent_spong" 
>>> > > wrote:
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > > I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message
>> > before.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > > I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs
that me
>>> > > and
>>>>> > > > > RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80
>> > Level
>>> > > 3's.
>>>>> > > > > They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs
was
>>> > > really
>>>>> > > > > high.
>>>>> > > > > They work out at about �40 each.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > ---------------------------------
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>> > Mobile. Try it now.
>>> > >
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>>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > 
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Kent,

I'll take one of your ribbon controllers. Email me at
bill@mamborama.com, and let me know the total price in USD with
shipping, and if possible, the easiest way would be to send you the
money with paypal.

thanks for your devotion to the CS80, you're a good man!

Bill

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "kent_spong" <kent_spong@...> wrote:

>
> Yes, £40 GBP
> yes, I can ship to the states
> yes, they are easy to fit.
> yes, they are a direct replacment.
> yes, they still have the same functionality and you do not have to 
> reajust anything on the BA board.
> 
> As for VCO's
> 
> Yamaha Japan are listening at last. I am putting together a list of 
> people who want to buy full sets of the final rock steady issue 
> IG00153. Once I get enough people signed up they will do a run of 
> them. I got Yamaha UK as go between, but I need more guy's on the 
> list.
> 
> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "billwolfer" <bill.wolfer@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Kent, in my browser that came out as ?40. Are we talking pounds,
> > dollars or euros? Can you ship to the states? How hard are they to 
> put
> > into place? Do they still have the same functionality in that you 
> can
> > start anywhere on the ribbon, moving left is exponential, right is
> > linear? lots of questions. one more: how are you fixed for 
> oscillator
> > chips?
> > 
> > Bill
> > 
> > --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "kent_spong" <kent_spong@> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message before.
> > > 
> > > I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs that me 
> and 
> > > RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80 Level 
> 3's.   
> > > They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs was 
> really 
> > > high.
> > > They work out at about �40 each.
> > >
> >
>

hey kent, thanks for this. i wasnt EXPECTING the chips to go that low, i was merely throwing some numbers on the table, as it looked like you needed some concrete commitment from members of the group. whatever they shake out to be, i absolutely need 1 VCO and 1VCF, minimum. frankly speaking, the higher they end up being, the less spares i will buy.(of course i know that you are not in control of how much they will be!)

also, thanks so much for your participation here, and for trailblazing the new chip discussions with yamaha!!! they are truly awesome-i totally agree, the CS80 is the best synthesizer ever created. 



kent_spong <kent_spong@...> wrote:                               I can understand how no one wants' to commit to something like this, 
 I sure as hell wouldn't.
 
 But lets be sensible about this please. $25 for a 153, yeah good 
 luck finding that buddy. You can't get a CEM3340 for that these days.
 
 The point here is not how much they are going to cost. The point is 
 that Yamaha make them or at the very least sell the die to someone 
 who will and that's all. I am not taking orders or make a profit out 
 of it, I am simply trying to build a voice loud enough that Yamaha 
 will take full notice of. I truly care deeply about the CS80, it is 
 the best synth ever made. I want these lush monsters to continue to 
 be a force in music for as long as possible. Yamaha are talking bums 
 on seats as you would expect, after all they are a business. Hence 
 they want to know how many ic's they need to make for it to be worth 
 their while. I'm just a synth tech trying to get something done 
 about it.
 
 --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, Richard Atkinson <rga24@...> 
 wrote:
 >
 > OK Kent. If you need to reach a minimum order quantity, my company 
 > (Atkinsoft Ltd) is willing to stump up the capital in order to get 
 this 
 > done, and sell the chips at an appropriate price over the coming 
 years.
 > 
 > Please contact me in private mail if you this will help.
 > 
 > 
 > On Nov 19 2007, kent_spong wrote:
 > 
 > >
 > >Yes thats the impression I got from Yamaha UK
 > >
 > >--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, Richard Atkinson <rga24@> 
 > >wrote:
 > >>
 > >> Kent, does Yamaha really still have the facilities to make IG 
 > >chips? These 
 > >> were made on very, very old machines using very old fashioned 
 > >process 
 > >> techniques.
 > >> 
 > >> Possibly they have a stock of unbonded dies / wafers they 
 simply 
 > >need to 
 > >> package up.
 > >> 
 > >> 
 > >> On Nov 19 2007, kent_spong wrote:
 > >> 
 > >> >Yes, £40 GBP
 > >> >yes, I can ship to the states
 > >> >yes, they are easy to fit.
 > >> >yes, they are a direct replacment.
 > >> >yes, they still have the same functionality and you do not 
 have 
 > >to 
 > >> >reajust anything on the BA board.
 > >> >
 > >> >As for VCO's
 > >> >
 > >> >Yamaha Japan are listening at last. I am putting together a 
 list 
 > >of 
 > >> >people who want to buy full sets of the final rock steady 
 issue 
 > >> >IG00153. Once I get enough people signed up they will do a run 
 of 
 > >> >them. I got Yamaha UK as go between, but I need more guy's on 
 the 
 > >> >list.
 > >> >
 > >> >--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "billwolfer" <bill.wolfer@> 
 > >> >wrote:
 > >> >>
 > >> >> Kent, in my browser that came out as ?40. Are we talking 
 pounds,
 > >> >> dollars or euros? Can you ship to the states? How hard are 
 they 
 > >to 
 > >> >put
 > >> >> into place? Do they still have the same functionality in 
 that 
 > >you 
 > >> >can
 > >> >> start anywhere on the ribbon, moving left is exponential, 
 right 
 > >is
 > >> >> linear? lots of questions. one more: how are you fixed for 
 > >> >oscillator
 > >> >> chips?
 > >> >> 
 > >> >> Bill
 > >> >> 
 > >> >> --- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "kent_spong" 
 <kent_spong@> 
 > >> >wrote:
 > >> >> >
 > >> >> > I'm sorry guy's. I thought I already posted this message 
 > >before.
 > >> >> > 
 > >> >> > I have a batch of brand new ribbon controller springs that 
 me 
 > >> >and 
 > >> >> > RLMusic had specially made that I fit into all the KSR80 
 > >Level 
 > >> >3's.   
 > >> >> > They are not cheap I'm afraid as the manufacturing costs 
 was 
 > >> >really 
 > >> >> > high.
 > >> >> > They work out at about �40 each.
 > >> >> >
 > >> >>
 > >> >
 > >> >
 > >> >
 > >>
 > >
 > >
 > >
 >
 
 
     
                               

       
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I�m interested to get few also!

Me too!

Fredrik Segerfalk
www.segerfalk.com
www.analogsweden.com

eskojramo wrote:

>
> I\ufffdm interested to get few also!
>
> __

The same for me please.
Thanks