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Ordering IC Parts Need Help

2011-05-07 by steve kodnel

I am trying to find a couple of parts through Digikey's website but I cant find them because i am fairly stupid.  I am trying to find IC21 and IC22 on the KAS board.  The numbers on the two 8 pin chips read 4558DV JRC 8011.    
I never know what portions of the alpha numeric part numbers I need to pay attention to. 

Also, I am looking for the part number for two other chips on Digikeys website.  They are the 4069P (not the 4069UBE chip) and 4050P chips on the KAS board.  Those are IC6 and 7 on the KAS board.
I am making a pretty large order on digikey and would like to find the right part no. for the three components I listed above.  

Can anyone spare some time to help me out.

Thanks,
Steve


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Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts Need Help

2011-05-07 by Andrew Kirkby

Hi Steve,

It is not stupidity to blame. You are looking for a manufacturer part  
number which doesn't exist anymore, thus the inability to find it on  
Digikey's site.

The 4558DV is a 4558 op amp. There is a plethora of people making  
these. I use TI chips for replacing those JRC ones found in tonnes of  
vintage Japanese electronics. Digikey PN 296-1414-5-ND

4069UBE is the modern part number for the 4069p inverter. Digikey PN#  
296-3518-5-ND




Andrew
On 08/05/2011, at 8:46 AM, steve kodnel wrote:

> I am trying to find a couple of parts through Digikey's website but  
> I cant find them because i am fairly stupid.  I am trying to find  
> IC21 and IC22 on the KAS board.  The numbers on the two 8 pin chips  
> read 4558DV JRC 8011.
> I never know what portions of the alpha numeric part numbers I need  
> to pay attention to.
>
> Also, I am looking for the part number for two other chips on  
> Digikeys website.  They are the 4069P (not the 4069UBE chip) and  
> 4050P chips on the KAS board.  Those are IC6 and 7 on the KAS board.
> I am making a pretty large order on digikey and would like to find  
> the right part no. for the three components I listed above.
>
> Can anyone spare some time to help me out.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> 

Andrew Kirkby
(e) kirkbyte@optusnet.com.au
(m) 0416 000 070






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Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts Need Help

2011-05-07 by dzlvs8@yahoo.com

Thanks, Andy.  I usually get the Texas Instruments stuff too. Im just never  
sure which numbers mean anything.  Also,  you forgot one.  Do you know what  
a TI replacement on Digikeys site would be for the 4050?   

Thanks again,
Steve
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-----Original message-----
From: Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...>
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 23:25:41 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts  Need Help

Hi Steve,

It is not stupidity to blame. You are looking for a manufacturer part  
number which doesn't exist anymore, thus the inability to find it on  
Digikey's site.

The 4558DV is a 4558 op amp. There is a plethora of people making  
these. I use TI chips for replacing those JRC ones found in tonnes of  
vintage Japanese electronics. Digikey PN 296-1414-5-ND

4069UBE is the modern part number for the 4069p inverter. Digikey PN#  
296-3518-5-ND




Andrew
On 08/05/2011, at 8:46 AM, steve kodnel wrote:

> I am trying to find a couple of parts through Digikey's website but  
> I cant find them because i am fairly stupid.  I am trying to find  
> IC21 and IC22 on the KAS board.  The numbers on the two 8 pin chips  
> read 4558DV JRC 8011.
> I never know what portions of the alpha numeric part numbers I need  
> to pay attention to.
>
> Also, I am looking for the part number for two other chips on  
> Digikeys website.  They are the 4069P (not the 4069UBE chip) and  
> 4050P chips on the KAS board.  Those are IC6 and 7 on the KAS board.
> I am making a pretty large order on digikey and would like to find  
> the right part no. for the three components I listed above.
>
> Can anyone spare some time to help me out.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> 

Andrew Kirkby
(e) kirkbyte@...
(m) 0416 000 070






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Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts Need Help

2011-05-07 by Andrew Kirkby

The 4050 is 296-2056-5-ND


On 08/05/2011, at 9:49 AM, dzlvs8@... wrote:

> Thanks, Andy. I usually get the Texas Instruments stuff too. Im just  
> never
> sure which numbers mean anything. Also, you forgot one. Do you know  
> what
> a TI replacement on Digikeys site would be for the 4050?
>
> Thanks again,
> Steve
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...>
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 23:25:41 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts Need Help
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> It is not stupidity to blame. You are looking for a manufacturer part
> number which doesn't exist anymore, thus the inability to find it on
> Digikey's site.
>
> The 4558DV is a 4558 op amp. There is a plethora of people making
> these. I use TI chips for replacing those JRC ones found in tonnes of
> vintage Japanese electronics. Digikey PN 296-1414-5-ND
>
> 4069UBE is the modern part number for the 4069p inverter. Digikey PN#
> 296-3518-5-ND
>
> Andrew
> On 08/05/2011, at 8:46 AM, steve kodnel wrote:
>
> > I am trying to find a couple of parts through Digikey's website but
> > I cant find them because i am fairly stupid. I am trying to find
> > IC21 and IC22 on the KAS board. The numbers on the two 8 pin chips
> > read 4558DV JRC 8011.
> > I never know what portions of the alpha numeric part numbers I need
> > to pay attention to.
> >
> > Also, I am looking for the part number for two other chips on
> > Digikeys website. They are the 4069P (not the 4069UBE chip) and
> > 4050P chips on the KAS board. Those are IC6 and 7 on the KAS board.
> > I am making a pretty large order on digikey and would like to find
> > the right part no. for the three components I listed above.
> >
> > Can anyone spare some time to help me out.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> Andrew Kirkby
> (e) kirkbyte@...
> (m) 0416 000 070
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> 

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(e) kirkbyte@...
(m) 0416 000 070






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Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts Need Help

2011-05-08 by dzlvs8@yahoo.com

you da man.  Thanks! 
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-----Original message-----
From: Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...>
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 23:54:05 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts  Need Help

The 4050 is 296-2056-5-ND


On 08/05/2011, at 9:49 AM, dzlvs8@... wrote:

> Thanks, Andy. I usually get the Texas Instruments stuff too. Im just  
> never
> sure which numbers mean anything. Also, you forgot one. Do you know  
> what
> a TI replacement on Digikeys site would be for the 4050?
>
> Thanks again,
> Steve
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...>
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 23:25:41 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts Need Help
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> It is not stupidity to blame. You are looking for a manufacturer part
> number which doesn't exist anymore, thus the inability to find it on
> Digikey's site.
>
> The 4558DV is a 4558 op amp. There is a plethora of people making
> these. I use TI chips for replacing those JRC ones found in tonnes of
> vintage Japanese electronics. Digikey PN 296-1414-5-ND
>
> 4069UBE is the modern part number for the 4069p inverter. Digikey PN#
> 296-3518-5-ND
>
> Andrew
> On 08/05/2011, at 8:46 AM, steve kodnel wrote:
>
> > I am trying to find a couple of parts through Digikey's website but
> > I cant find them because i am fairly stupid. I am trying to find
> > IC21 and IC22 on the KAS board. The numbers on the two 8 pin chips
> > read 4558DV JRC 8011.
> > I never know what portions of the alpha numeric part numbers I need
> > to pay attention to.
> >
> > Also, I am looking for the part number for two other chips on
> > Digikeys website. They are the 4069P (not the 4069UBE chip) and
> > 4050P chips on the KAS board. Those are IC6 and 7 on the KAS board.
> > I am making a pretty large order on digikey and would like to find
> > the right part no. for the three components I listed above.
> >
> > Can anyone spare some time to help me out.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> Andrew Kirkby
> (e) kirkbyte@...
> (m) 0416 000 070
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> 

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(m) 0416 000 070






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Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts Need Help

2011-05-08 by Andrew Kirkby

No problem :)
On 08/05/2011, at 10:13 AM, dzlvs8@... wrote:

> you da man. Thanks!
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...>
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 23:54:05 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts Need Help
>
> The 4050 is 296-2056-5-ND
>
> On 08/05/2011, at 9:49 AM, dzlvs8@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Andy. I usually get the Texas Instruments stuff too. Im just
> > never
> > sure which numbers mean anything. Also, you forgot one. Do you know
> > what
> > a TI replacement on Digikeys site would be for the 4050?
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Steve
> >
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...>
> > To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 23:25:41 GMT+00:00
> > Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts Need Help
> >
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > It is not stupidity to blame. You are looking for a manufacturer  
> part
> > number which doesn't exist anymore, thus the inability to find it on
> > Digikey's site.
> >
> > The 4558DV is a 4558 op amp. There is a plethora of people making
> > these. I use TI chips for replacing those JRC ones found in tonnes  
> of
> > vintage Japanese electronics. Digikey PN 296-1414-5-ND
> >
> > 4069UBE is the modern part number for the 4069p inverter. Digikey  
> PN#
> > 296-3518-5-ND
> >
> > Andrew
> > On 08/05/2011, at 8:46 AM, steve kodnel wrote:
> >
> > > I am trying to find a couple of parts through Digikey's website  
> but
> > > I cant find them because i am fairly stupid. I am trying to find
> > > IC21 and IC22 on the KAS board. The numbers on the two 8 pin chips
> > > read 4558DV JRC 8011.
> > > I never know what portions of the alpha numeric part numbers I  
> need
> > > to pay attention to.
> > >
> > > Also, I am looking for the part number for two other chips on
> > > Digikeys website. They are the 4069P (not the 4069UBE chip) and
> > > 4050P chips on the KAS board. Those are IC6 and 7 on the KAS  
> board.
> > > I am making a pretty large order on digikey and would like to find
> > > the right part no. for the three components I listed above.
> > >
> > > Can anyone spare some time to help me out.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Andrew Kirkby
> > (e) kirkbyte@...
> > (m) 0416 000 070
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> Andrew Kirkby
> (e) kirkbyte@...
> (m) 0416 000 070
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> 

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(e) kirkbyte@...
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Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts Need Help

2011-05-08 by steve kodnel

Alright, my order is about ready, but I am thinking I should probably ask this question in order to take cut my order price down by 90%.  I think it was old crow's website that recommended using this part numberED2101-ND    IC SOCKET W/CAP TIN MS ST 14 PIN
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?vendor=0&keywords=ED2101-ndfor the 14 pin IC sockets.  
These things are ridiculously expensive!!!!!!!  1.  Is this really necessary or can I just get some cheapo ones that dont have the capacitor in them

--- On Sat, 5/7/11, Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...> wrote:
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From: Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...>
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts  Need Help
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 7:53 PM

The 4050 is 296-2056-5-ND


On 08/05/2011, at 9:49 AM, dzlvs8@... wrote:

> Thanks, Andy. I usually get the Texas Instruments stuff too. Im just  
> never
> sure which numbers mean anything. Also, you forgot one. Do you know  
> what
> a TI replacement on Digikeys site would be for the 4050?
>
> Thanks again,
> Steve
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...>
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 23:25:41 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts Need Help
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> It is not stupidity to blame. You are looking for a manufacturer part
> number which doesn't exist anymore, thus the inability to find it on
> Digikey's site.
>
> The 4558DV is a 4558 op amp. There is a plethora of people making
> these. I use TI chips for replacing those JRC ones found in tonnes of
> vintage Japanese electronics. Digikey PN 296-1414-5-ND
>
> 4069UBE is the modern part number for the 4069p inverter. Digikey PN#
> 296-3518-5-ND
>
> Andrew
> On 08/05/2011, at 8:46 AM, steve kodnel wrote:
>
> > I am trying to find a couple of parts through Digikey's website but
> > I cant find them because i am fairly stupid. I am trying to find
> > IC21 and IC22 on the KAS board. The numbers on the two 8 pin chips
> > read 4558DV JRC 8011.
> > I never know what portions of the alpha numeric part numbers I need
> > to pay attention to.
> >
> > Also, I am looking for the part number for two other chips on
> > Digikeys website. They are the 4069P (not the 4069UBE chip) and
> > 4050P chips on the KAS board. Those are IC6 and 7 on the KAS board.
> > I am making a pretty large order on digikey and would like to find
> > the right part no. for the three components I listed above.
> >
> > Can anyone spare some time to help me out.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> Andrew Kirkby
> (e) kirkbyte@...
> (m) 0416 000 070
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> 

Andrew Kirkby
(e) kirkbyte@...
(m) 0416 000 070






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Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts Need Help

2011-05-08 by David Rogoff

>
> 	
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 	steve kodnel <mailto:dzlvs8@...>
> May 7, 2011 7:25 PM
>
>
> Alright, my order is about ready, but I am thinking I should probably 
> ask this question in order to take cut my order price down by 90%.  I 
> think it was old crow's website that recommended using this part 
> numberED2101-ND    IC SOCKET W/CAP TIN MS ST 14 PIN
> http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?vendor=0&keywords=ED2101-ndfor 
> the 14 pin IC sockets.
> These things are ridiculously expensive!!!!!!!  1.  Is this really 
> necessary or can I just get some cheapo ones that dont have the 
> capacitor in them
>
> --- On Sat, 5/7/11, Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...> wrote:
>
> From: Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...>
> Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts Need Help
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 7:53 PM
>
> The 4050 is 296-2056-5-ND
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

I got some of the sockets with caps a few weeks ago.  When I redid my 
CS80 a few years ago, I just soldered in caps myself, which was a lot of 
work.  If I did it again, I'd probably use the sockets with built-in 
caps for about every 4th chip.    The 14-pin with cap (Digikey ED2101-ND 
) are $3.26 each for 10.  The 14-pin without cap of the same quality 
(ED90033-ND ) are $1.02 each for 10.

One pain with the CS80 is that the spacing between the rows on the 
circuit boards is slightly more than the standard 0.3".  With bare DIP 
ICs, you can bend the leads to fit, but the sockets won't fit without 
breaking them at the top and bottom.

  David


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Re: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts Need Help

2011-05-08 by kirkbyte@optusnet.com.au

Hi Steve,

I am using Mill-Max gold plated sockets for all CMOS. With decoupling capacitor they are quite expensive.

I would avoid using cheap sockets to be honest. You are restoring a piece of equipment that is worth around $10,000+ if it works perfectly. A couple of hundred dollars on sockets and capacitors is minimal when compared to the value of the unit.

I can get you part numbers if you like.


AK
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> steve kodnel <dzlvs8@...> wrote:
> 
> Alright, my order is about ready, but I am thinking I should probably 
> ask this question in order to take cut my order price down by 90%. �I 
> think it was old crow's website that recommended using this part 
> numberED2101-ND � �IC SOCKET W/CAP TIN MS ST 14 PIN
> http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?vendor=0&keywords=ED
> 2101-ndfor the 14 pin IC sockets. �
> These things are ridiculously expensive!!!!!!! �1. �Is this really 
> necessary or can I just get some cheapo ones that dont have the 
> capacitor in them
> 
> --- On Sat, 5/7/11, Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...> wrote:
> 
> From: Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...>
> Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts  Need Help
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 7:53 PM
> 
> The 4050 is 296-2056-5-ND
> 
> 
> On 08/05/2011, at 9:49 AM, dzlvs8@... wrote:
> 
> > Thanks, Andy. I usually get the Texas Instruments stuff too. Im just� 
> > never
> > sure which numbers mean anything. Also, you forgot one. Do you know� 
> > what
> > a TI replacement on Digikeys site would be for the 4050?
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Steve
> >
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...>
> > To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 23:25:41 GMT+00:00
> > Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts Need Help
> >
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > It is not stupidity to blame. You are looking for a manufacturer part
> > number which doesn't exist anymore, thus the inability to find it on
> > Digikey's site.
> >
> > The 4558DV is a 4558 op amp. There is a plethora of people making
> > these. I use TI chips for replacing those JRC ones found in tonnes of
> > vintage Japanese electronics. Digikey PN 296-1414-5-ND
> >
> > 4069UBE is the modern part number for the 4069p inverter. Digikey PN#
> > 296-3518-5-ND
> >
> > Andrew
> > On 08/05/2011, at 8:46 AM, steve kodnel wrote:
> >
> > > I am trying to find a couple of parts through Digikey's website but
> > > I cant find them because i am fairly stupid. I am trying to find
> > > IC21 and IC22 on the KAS board. The numbers on the two 8 pin chips
> > > read 4558DV JRC 8011.
> > > I never know what portions of the alpha numeric part numbers I need
> > > to pay attention to.
> > >
> > > Also, I am looking for the part number for two other chips on
> > > Digikeys website. They are the 4069P (not the 4069UBE chip) and
> > > 4050P chips on the KAS board. Those are IC6 and 7 on the KAS board.
> > > I am making a pretty large order on digikey and would like to find
> > > the right part no. for the three components I listed above.
> > >
> > > Can anyone spare some time to help me out.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Andrew Kirkby
> > (e) kirkbyte@...
> > (m) 0416 000 070
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> Andrew Kirkby
> (e) kirkbyte@...
> (m) 0416 000 070
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts Need Help

2011-05-08 by dzlvs8@yahoo.com

Actually my instrument is worth a lot less.  I havent been blessed with a cs80 yet.  Instead I have two CS50's.  By the way, has anyone ever been able to add extra voices to a cs50 using spare cs 50 components?!?!?   Eh its just an idea.


On the note about ordering parts, I just put my order in.   But I couldnt find any sockets with caps on them for my 8 pin sockets.  It looks like they arent even made by anyone.  Not sure why.  For the 8 pin sockets for the portamento IC's I had to order some sockets without caps.
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-----Original message-----
From: kirkbyte@...
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 04:31:54 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts  Need Help


Hi Steve,

I am using Mill-Max gold plated sockets for all CMOS. With decoupling capacitor they are quite expensive.

I would avoid using cheap sockets to be honest. You are restoring a piece of equipment that is worth around $10,000+ if it works perfectly. A couple of hundred dollars on sockets and capacitors is minimal when compared to the value of the unit.

I can get you part numbers if you like.


AK

> steve kodnel <dzlvs8@...> wrote:
> 
> Alright, my order is about ready, but I am thinking I should probably 
> ask this question in order to take cut my order price down by 90%. ��I 
> think it was old crow's website that recommended using this part 
> numberED2101-ND �� ��IC SOCKET W/CAP TIN MS ST 14 PIN
> http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?vendor=0&keywords=ED
> 2101-ndfor the 14 pin IC sockets. ��
> These things are ridiculously expensive!!!!!!! ��1. ��Is this really 
> necessary or can I just get some cheapo ones that dont have the 
> capacitor in them
> 
> --- On Sat, 5/7/11, Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...m.au> wrote:
> 
> From: Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...>
> Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts  Need Help
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 7:53 PM
> 
> The 4050 is 296-2056-5-ND
> 
> 
> On 08/05/2011, at 9:49 AM, dzlvs8@... wrote:
> 
> > Thanks, Andy. I usually get the Texas Instruments stuff too. Im just�� 
> > never
> > sure which numbers mean anything. Also, you forgot one. Do you know�� 
> > what
> > a TI replacement on Digikeys site would be for the 4050?
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Steve
> >
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...>
> > To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 23:25:41 GMT+00:00
> > Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts Need Help
> >
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > It is not stupidity to blame. You are looking for a manufacturer part
> > number which doesn't exist anymore, thus the inability to find it on
> > Digikey's site.
> >
> > The 4558DV is a 4558 op amp. There is a plethora of people making
> > these. I use TI chips for replacing those JRC ones found in tonnes of
> > vintage Japanese electronics. Digikey PN 296-1414-5-ND
> >
> > 4069UBE is the modern part number for the 4069p inverter. Digikey PN#
> > 296-3518-5-ND
> >
> > Andrew
> > On 08/05/2011, at 8:46 AM, steve kodnel wrote:
> >
> > > I am trying to find a couple of parts through Digikey's website but
> > > I cant find them because i am fairly stupid. I am trying to find
> > > IC21 and IC22 on the KAS board. The numbers on the two 8 pin chips
> > > read 4558DV JRC 8011.
> > > I never know what portions of the alpha numeric part numbers I need
> > > to pay attention to.
> > >
> > > Also, I am looking for the part number for two other chips on
> > > Digikeys website. They are the 4069P (not the 4069UBE chip) and
> > > 4050P chips on the KAS board. Those are IC6 and 7 on the KAS board.
> > > I am making a pretty large order on digikey and would like to find
> > > the right part no. for the three components I listed above.
> > >
> > > Can anyone spare some time to help me out.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Andrew Kirkby
> > (e) kirkbyte@...
> > (m) 0416 000 070
> >
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> 
> Andrew Kirkby
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> (m) 0416 000 070
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Re: Re: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts Need Help

2011-05-08 by kirkbyte@optusnet.com.au

Steve,

At least then you don't have almost endless boards and sockets to deal with (CS80 can be quite daunting, especially the top side circuits)

The CS50/60 does not have that many CMOS when compared with the CS80 (no polyphonic aftertouch). Also, there is already decoupling on the boards (The 0.1uf ceramics) and i would not use the sockets with the capacitors unless needed. 

Here are the correct Mill-Max sockets and digikey part numbers and manufacturer part numbers.

IC SOCKET 16POS .300" DIP GOLD	ED3316-ND	110-93-316-41-001000	Mil-Max
IC SOCKET 14POS .300" DIP GOLD	ED3314-ND	110-93-314-41-001000	Mil-Max
IC SOCKET 8POS .300" DIP GOLD	ED3308-ND	110-93-308-41-001000	Mil-Max


To my knowledge it is not possible to add more voices. I have not attempted nor will i in the future.

Andrew
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> dzlvs8@... <dzlvs8@...> wrote:
> 
> Actually my instrument is worth a lot less.  I havent been blessed with 
> a cs80 yet.  Instead I have two CS50's.  By the way, has anyone ever 
> been able to add extra voices to a cs50 using spare cs 50 
> components?!?!?   Eh its just an idea.
> 
> 
> On the note about ordering parts, I just put my order in.   But I 
> couldnt find any sockets with caps on them for my 8 pin sockets.  It 
> looks like they arent even made by anyone.  Not sure why.  For the 8 pin 
> sockets for the portamento IC's I had to order some sockets without 
> caps.
> 
> -----Original message-----
> From: kirkbyte@...
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 04:31:54 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts  Need Help
> 
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> I am using Mill-Max gold plated sockets for all CMOS. With decoupling 
> capacitor they are quite expensive.
> 
> I would avoid using cheap sockets to be honest. You are restoring a 
> piece of equipment that is worth around $10,000+ if it works perfectly. 
> A couple of hundred dollars on sockets and capacitors is minimal when 
> compared to the value of the unit.
> 
> I can get you part numbers if you like.
> 
> 
> AK
> 
> > steve kodnel <dzlvs8@...> wrote:
> > 
> > Alright, my order is about ready, but I am thinking I should probably 
> > ask this question in order to take cut my order price down by 90%. 
> ��I 
> > think it was old crow's website that recommended using this part 
> > numberED2101-ND �� ��IC SOCKET W/CAP TIN MS ST 14 PIN
> > 
> http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?vendor=0&keywords=ED
> 
> > 2101-ndfor the 14 pin IC sockets. ��
> > These things are ridiculously expensive!!!!!!! ��1. ��Is this 
> really 
> > necessary or can I just get some cheapo ones that dont have the 
> > capacitor in them
> > 
> > --- On Sat, 5/7/11, Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...> wrote:
> > 
> > From: Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...>
> > Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts  Need Help
> > To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 7:53 PM
> > 
> > The 4050 is 296-2056-5-ND
> > 
> > 
> > On 08/05/2011, at 9:49 AM, dzlvs8@... wrote:
> > 
> > > Thanks, Andy. I usually get the Texas Instruments stuff too. Im 
> just�� 
> > > never
> > > sure which numbers mean anything. Also, you forgot one. Do you 
> know�� 
> > > what
> > > a TI replacement on Digikeys site would be for the 4050?
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > -----Original message-----
> > > From: Andrew Kirkby <kirkbyte@...>
> > > To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 23:25:41 GMT+00:00
> > > Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] Ordering IC Parts Need Help
> > >
> > > Hi Steve,
> > >
> > > It is not stupidity to blame. You are looking for a manufacturer 
> part
> > > number which doesn't exist anymore, thus the inability to find it on
> > > Digikey's site.
> > >
> > > The 4558DV is a 4558 op amp. There is a plethora of people making
> > > these. I use TI chips for replacing those JRC ones found in tonnes 
> of
> > > vintage Japanese electronics. Digikey PN 296-1414-5-ND
> > >
> > > 4069UBE is the modern part number for the 4069p inverter. Digikey 
> PN#
> > > 296-3518-5-ND
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > > On 08/05/2011, at 8:46 AM, steve kodnel wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am trying to find a couple of parts through Digikey's website 
> but
> > > > I cant find them because i am fairly stupid. I am trying to find
> > > > IC21 and IC22 on the KAS board. The numbers on the two 8 pin chips
> > > > read 4558DV JRC 8011.
> > > > I never know what portions of the alpha numeric part numbers I 
> need
> > > > to pay attention to.
> > > >
> > > > Also, I am looking for the part number for two other chips on
> > > > Digikeys website. They are the 4069P (not the 4069UBE chip) and
> > > > 4050P chips on the KAS board. Those are IC6 and 7 on the KAS 
> board.
> > > > I am making a pretty large order on digikey and would like to find
> > > > the right part no. for the three components I listed above.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone spare some time to help me out.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Andrew Kirkby
> > > (e) kirkbyte@...
> > > (m) 0416 000 070
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
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> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > 
> > Andrew Kirkby
> > (e) kirkbyte@...
> > (m) 0416 000 070
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