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eASEL?

2008-11-20 by cuari7

OK, so I've gotta ask, although this might have already been discussed 
here, but just bear with me:

Any plans from BAS for a reissue of the Easel?
Seems like the components are already being made (and I suspect, 
succesfully sold...), so a more compact one-piece sound source to which 
the Thunder could be added would make sense.....better yet, a 25-key 
touch plate board with (here I go again!) a chromatic layout would be 
highly coveted (I'll take two, please!  ;-)<).

Ezra?? Any comments?

Re: eASEL?

2008-11-20 by kkonkkrete

Oh that would be so amazing.


--- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, "ezra buchla" <ezra.buchla@...> wrote:
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>    Any plans from BAS for a reissue of the Easel?
> > Seems like the components are already being made (and I suspect,
> > succesfully sold...), so a more compact one-piece sound source to which
> > the Thunder could be added would make sense.....better yet, a 25-key
> > touch plate board with (here I go again!) a chromatic layout would be
> > highly coveted (I'll take two, please! ;-)<).
> >
> > Ezra?? Any comments?
> >
> 
> nc, sorry...
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Re: [200e] eASEL?

2008-11-20 by ezra buchla

Any plans from BAS for a reissue of the Easel?
> Seems like the components are already being made (and I suspect,
> succesfully sold...), so a more compact one-piece sound source to which
> the Thunder could be added would make sense.....better yet, a 25-key
> touch plate board with (here I go again!) a chromatic layout would be
> highly coveted (I'll take two, please! ;-)<).
>
> Ezra?? Any comments?
>

nc, sorry...


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Re: [200e] eASEL?

2008-11-23 by Chris Muir

Let me play devil's advocate for a minute. Much as I would love to see  
an 208 reissue or reinterpretation, couldn't similar functionality be  
had in similar space with existing 200e modules? It seems to me that  
the combo of a 261e, 282e, 292e and the new 206e fits in the same  
space as the Easel, and generates a similar sonic palette, and  
provides presets, too, albeit ones that you can't fondle.

There are a handful of important things missing when trying to  
recreate the 208 in the same panel space: random voltages, sequencer /  
pulser, spring reverb, envelope detector, and doubtless some things  
I'm forgetting.

What are the reasons people would like to see a 208e? What are the  
features of the original 208 that would make you want a reissue?

For me, they include:
  - immediate control of a nice little voice architecture
  - sliders provide fast manipulation of multiple parameters  
simultaneously
  - uncorrelated random outputs a really nice touch

-C

Chris Muir
cbm@well.com	
http://www.xfade.com

Re: [200e] eASEL?

2008-11-23 by amnesia

My dream is Plan B would come out with something like this..

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Re: [200e] live

2008-11-23 by amnesia

Just a heads up to anyone here in Melbourne Australia 25 Nov.

I will be performing with VICMOD and as myself CRAY with the 200e.

Its an all modular night 3 acts and about 9 modular systems from Buchla, 
EMS, Euro and Blacet systems

*MAKE IT UP CLUB *

*25 NOVEMBER 2008*

*ALL MODULAR NIGHT.*

*Bar Open, 317 Brunswick Street, Fitzroy 3065, Melbourne , Australia***

A full night of nothing but MODULAR SYNTHESIZERS!!!

**1^st act: *

*VICMOD ENSEMBLE*

*Ross Healy*- Buchla 200e modular

*Scott Baker*- Euromodular

*Jed* - Chimera bc16

*Brett Maddaford* – Euro Homebrew modular

*Simon Birds*- Euro/Blacet modular

*2^ND act :*

*Steve Law* – Roland System 100

*Steve Williams* – EMS VCS3

*3^rd act*

*CRAY VS ABRE OJOS*

CRAY (*Ross Healy*) vs ABRE OJOS (*Scott Baker*)

Buchla Vs Euromodular battle. Buchla splinters and Euro drone.


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Re: [200e] eASEL?

2008-11-23 by JB

208e would be really tempting but i would prefer a 296e

jb

2008/11/23 Chris Muir <cbm@well.com>:
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> Let me play devil's advocate for a minute. Much as I would love to see
> an 208 reissue or reinterpretation, couldn't similar functionality be
> had in similar space with existing 200e modules? It seems to me that
> the combo of a 261e, 282e, 292e and the new 206e fits in the same
> space as the Easel, and generates a similar sonic palette, and
> provides presets, too, albeit ones that you can't fondle.
>
> There are a handful of important things missing when trying to
> recreate the 208 in the same panel space: random voltages, sequencer /
> pulser, spring reverb, envelope detector, and doubtless some things
> I'm forgetting.
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> What are the reasons people would like to see a 208e? What are the
> features of the original 208 that would make you want a reissue?
>
> For me, they include:
>  - immediate control of a nice little voice architecture
>  - sliders provide fast manipulation of multiple parameters
> simultaneously
>  - uncorrelated random outputs a really nice touch
>
> -C
>
> Chris Muir
> cbm@well.com
> http://www.xfade.com
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Re: [200e] eASEL?

2008-11-23 by luther rochester

Chris Muir wrote:
> What are the reasons people would like to see a 208e? What are the  
> features of the original 208 that would make you want a reissue?
> 
> For me, they include:
>   - immediate control of a nice little voice architecture
>   - sliders provide fast manipulation of multiple parameters  
> simultaneously
>   - uncorrelated random outputs a really nice touch
> 


The main thing for me is not the features, but the mini-patchfield using 
shorting bars and color coding. This allows you to quickly and easily 
patch most features, and to be able to tell at a glance what is patched 
to what. You can get very complicated interactions between "modules" 
this way on the Easel, where the 200e would likely be a banana rat's 
nest to do something similar. For live playing, this is what sets the 
Easel apart.

You could argue that the patch memory of the 200e more than makes up for 
this, but I haven't spent enough time with one to make that determination.

The reverb is really nice too. I know a $50 pedal will add reverb, but 
it's nice to have the knob right next to your volume pot.
-- 
./luther

Re: eASEL?

2008-11-23 by mritenburg

While we're discussing it, I think it is worth noting that virtually 
all of the Easel's features are present in 200e series modules.  I 
think the only missing feature is reverb.  I've patched up all of the 
examples from PAMTEO on my 200e.  

I'm not interested at all in a 208e re-issue or work-a-like.  That 
said, I do agree that an 8PU or 6PU portable system with a wealth of 
programming resources and touch plate control is highly desirable. 

200e features I find indespensible are (all of equal weight): 
Uncertainty 
Arbitrary Functions
Patch Saving
Quadrature envelopes
Every Feature of the 259e
Sample & Hold (ala bottm section of 266e)
Pulse Division
Audio Signal modulation of the 291e
Touch Control
Flexible voltage control routing

I can achieve various subsets of those features in 8PU by sacrificing 
Mixer and Touch Control, but like most people, I want it all 
dammit!!!  :-)

--- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, luther rochester <lrochester@...> wrote:
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> Chris Muir wrote:
> > What are the reasons people would like to see a 208e? What are the  
> > features of the original 208 that would make you want a reissue?
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Re: eASEL? Scratch That 288e!!!

2008-11-23 by tmeade1974

I'll echo a request for a stereo (or even quad!) delay module that has a modulation 
sequencer like the 291e with control over mix, delay time and feedback.  And maybe have 
a some eq or filter control as well.  I can just imagine that with the feedback patched 
through the new 285e!!!  That right there is a system in itself.

-tom



--- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, amnesia <amni56@...> wrote:
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> I am trying to see if a doepfer spring reverb tank will fit into the 
> buchla if so, and I can work the power out , I will pop it behind a 
> blank panel:-)
> Actually thinking about it now maybe a Ken STone Real Ring mod too
> 
> Ross
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Re: eASEL?

2008-11-23 by derwskee

a two panel system with a 266e, 261e, 281e, 292e and the 222e would 
be very close though you don't get the pulser you do get a lot more 
stuff. The thing I would like to see would be a mini 222 in 2 or 3 
module space without the rings...a bit more simple. Something to 
touch that put out velocity, gates and voltages. If you added a 206e 
to the above modules (assuming a mini 222e existed) you'd have more 
than an easel. All that said, and NOT even having played an Easel it 
appears that the consolidated/integrated design of the Easel sound 
panel is so completely elegant that it's hard to recreate the same 
thing with individual modules.... 

--- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, Chris Muir <cbm@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Let me play devil's advocate for a minute. Much as I would love to 
see  
> an 208 reissue or reinterpretation, couldn't similar functionality 
be  
> had in similar space with existing 200e modules? It seems to me 
that  
> the combo of a 261e, 282e, 292e and the new 206e fits in the same  
> space as the Easel, and generates a similar sonic palette, and  
> provides presets, too, albeit ones that you can't fondle.
> 
> There are a handful of important things missing when trying to  
> recreate the 208 in the same panel space: random voltages, 
sequencer /  
> pulser, spring reverb, envelope detector, and doubtless some 
things  
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> I'm forgetting.
> 
> What are the reasons people would like to see a 208e? What are the  
> features of the original 208 that would make you want a reissue?
> 
> For me, they include:
>   - immediate control of a nice little voice architecture
>   - sliders provide fast manipulation of multiple parameters  
> simultaneously
>   - uncorrelated random outputs a really nice touch
> 
> -C
> 
> Chris Muir
> cbm@...	
> http://www.xfade.com
>

Re: [200e] eASEL? Scratch That 288e!!!

2008-11-23 by bob dobbs

How about a 288e???  Now that would really turn my crank!!! Quad A B C D channels, Lcd display with 8 rotary encoders and 8 push buttons below to mix the tap outputs and set polarity. An ABCD pushbutton to select which channel to edit. Two horizontal sliders to adjust start and end points with VC modulation inputs a la Akai 612. FM inputs for every channel, Scaled input to do Karplus Strong stuff and finally feed insert points for every channel. Infinite feedback to do Frippertronic style SOS. Since it's digital, lots of ram for long delays. I would take 2 right away.

Wishing and Dreaming.

RM

--- On Sun, 11/23/08, JB <ringmodulator@gmail.com> wrote:
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To: 200e@yahoogroups.com
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            208e would be really tempting but i would prefer a 296e



jb



2008/11/23 Chris Muir <cbm@well.com>:

>

> Let me play devil's advocate for a minute. Much as I would love to see

> an 208 reissue or reinterpretation, couldn't similar functionality be

> had in similar space with existing 200e modules? It seems to me that

> the combo of a 261e, 282e, 292e and the new 206e fits in the same

> space as the Easel, and generates a similar sonic palette, and

> provides presets, too, albeit ones that you can't fondle.

>

> There are a handful of important things missing when trying to

> recreate the 208 in the same panel space: random voltages, sequencer /

> pulser, spring reverb, envelope detector, and doubtless some things

> I'm forgetting.

>

> What are the reasons people would like to see a 208e? What are the

> features of the original 208 that would make you want a reissue?

>

> For me, they include:

>  - immediate control of a nice little voice architecture

>  - sliders provide fast manipulation of multiple parameters

> simultaneously

>  - uncorrelated random outputs a really nice touch

>

> -C

>

> Chris Muir

> cbm@well.com

> http://www.xfade. com

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Re: [200e] eASEL? Scratch That 288e!!!

2008-11-23 by amnesia

I am trying to see if a doepfer spring reverb tank will fit into the 
buchla if so, and I can work the power out , I will pop it behind a 
blank panel:-)
Actually thinking about it now maybe a Ken STone Real Ring mod too

Ross

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Re: [200e] eASEL? Scratch That 288e!!!

2008-11-23 by don hassler

I'd think the 285e for ring mod!



--- On Sun, 11/23/08, amnesia <amni56@tpg.com.au> wrote:
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> From: amnesia <amni56@tpg.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [200e] eASEL? Scratch That 288e!!!
> To: 200e@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 6:05 PM
> I am trying to see if a doepfer spring reverb tank will fit
> into the 
> buchla if so, and I can work the power out , I will pop it
> behind a 
> blank panel:-)
> Actually thinking about it now maybe a Ken STone Real Ring
> mod too
> 
> Ross
> 
> >
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Re: [200e] eASEL? Scratch That 288e!!!

2008-11-23 by amnesia

HI Don
yes but the Ken Stone Real Ring Mod is $50 :-)

But I am sure I will get the Buchla :-)

don hassler wrote:
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> I'd think the 285e for ring mod!
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> --- On Sun, 11/23/08, amnesia <amni56@tpg.com.au 
> <mailto:amni56%40tpg.com.au>> wrote:
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> > From: amnesia <amni56@tpg.com.au <mailto:amni56%40tpg.com.au>>
> > Subject: Re: [200e] eASEL? Scratch That 288e!!!
> > To: 200e@yahoogroups.com <mailto:200e%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 6:05 PM
> > I am trying to see if a doepfer spring reverb tank will fit
> > into the
> > buchla if so, and I can work the power out , I will pop it
> > behind a
> > blank panel:-)
> > Actually thinking about it now maybe a Ken STone Real Ring
> > mod too
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > >
> > >
>
>

Re: [200e] Re: eASEL? Scratch That 288e!!!

2008-11-23 by bob dobbs

Hi Tom,

Agreed on all points, good suggestion about the modulation sequencer. Imagine inserting a 285e followed by the 291e, instant sonic molasses. Sprinkle a little spring reverb into the mix, Yikes.

RM

--- On Sun, 11/23/08, tmeade1974 <tmeade1974@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Subject: [200e] Re: eASEL? Scratch That 288e!!!
To: 200e@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 6:14 PM










    
            I'll echo a request for a stereo (or even quad!) delay module that has a modulation 

sequencer like the 291e with control over mix, delay time and feedback.  And maybe have 

a some eq or filter control as well.  I can just imagine that with the feedback patched 

through the new 285e!!!  That right there is a system in itself.



-tom



--- In 200e@yahoogroups. com, amnesia <amni56@...> wrote:

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> I am trying to see if a doepfer spring reverb tank will fit into the 

> buchla if so, and I can work the power out , I will pop it behind a 

> blank panel:-)

> Actually thinking about it now maybe a Ken STone Real Ring mod too

> 

> Ross

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Re: [200e] eASEL? Scratch That 288e!!!

2008-11-23 by don hassler

I know... Unable to contain myself!


--- On Sun, 11/23/08, amnesia <amni56@tpg.com.au> wrote:
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> From: amnesia <amni56@tpg.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [200e] eASEL? Scratch That 288e!!!
> To: 200e@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 6:12 PM
> HI Don
> yes but the Ken Stone Real Ring Mod is $50 :-)
> 
> But I am sure I will get the Buchla :-)
> 
> don hassler wrote:
> >
> > I'd think the 285e for ring mod!
> >
> > --- On Sun, 11/23/08, amnesia <amni56@tpg.com.au 
> > <mailto:amni56%40tpg.com.au>> wrote:
> >
> > > From: amnesia <amni56@tpg.com.au
> <mailto:amni56%40tpg.com.au>>
> > > Subject: Re: [200e] eASEL? Scratch That 288e!!!
> > > To: 200e@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:200e%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 6:05 PM
> > > I am trying to see if a doepfer spring reverb
> tank will fit
> > > into the
> > > buchla if so, and I can work the power out , I
> will pop it
> > > behind a
> > > blank panel:-)
> > > Actually thinking about it now maybe a Ken STone
> Real Ring
> > > mod too
> > >
> > > Ross
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

Re: eASEL?

2008-11-24 by kkonkkrete

--- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, Chris Muir <cbm@...> wrote:

> What are the reasons people would like to see a 208e? What are the  
> features of the original 208 that would make you want a reissue?
> 
> For me, they include:
>   - immediate control of a nice little voice architecture
>   - sliders provide fast manipulation of multiple parameters  
> simultaneously
>   - uncorrelated random outputs a really nice touch

Those sound like pretty good reasons to me!  I'd like a 208 re-release
or updated equivalent because it would be (even) more portable than a
200e system, and because it would have MORE LIMITED functionality. 
That's a good thing.  It is easier to have a complete grasp of the
sonic potential with a less open-ended architecture.

Re: eASEL?

2008-11-25 by sigmasixalka

it is true.. the mere design aspect and portability alone, makes an easel reissue absolutely 
intriguing.. i might even consider selling my AKS for that one!!

--- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, "derwskee" <synpro@...> wrote:
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> a two panel system with a 266e, 261e, 281e, 292e and the 222e would 
> be very close though you don't get the pulser you do get a lot more 
> stuff. The thing I would like to see would be a mini 222 in 2 or 3 
> module space without the rings...a bit more simple. Something to 
> touch that put out velocity, gates and voltages. If you added a 206e 
> to the above modules (assuming a mini 222e existed) you'd have more 
> than an easel. All that said, and NOT even having played an Easel it 
> appears that the consolidated/integrated design of the Easel sound 
> panel is so completely elegant that it's hard to recreate the same 
> thing with individual modules.... 
> 
> --- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, Chris Muir <cbm@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Let me play devil's advocate for a minute. Much as I would love to 
> see  
> > an 208 reissue or reinterpretation, couldn't similar functionality 
> be  
> > had in similar space with existing 200e modules? It seems to me 
> that  
> > the combo of a 261e, 282e, 292e and the new 206e fits in the same  
> > space as the Easel, and generates a similar sonic palette, and  
> > provides presets, too, albeit ones that you can't fondle.
> > 
> > There are a handful of important things missing when trying to  
> > recreate the 208 in the same panel space: random voltages, 
> sequencer /  
> > pulser, spring reverb, envelope detector, and doubtless some 
> things  
> > I'm forgetting.
> > 
> > What are the reasons people would like to see a 208e? What are the  
> > features of the original 208 that would make you want a reissue?
> > 
> > For me, they include:
> >   - immediate control of a nice little voice architecture
> >   - sliders provide fast manipulation of multiple parameters  
> > simultaneously
> >   - uncorrelated random outputs a really nice touch
> > 
> > -C
> > 
> > Chris Muir
> > cbm@	
> > http://www.xfade.com
> >
>

Re: eASEL?

2010-09-09 by Giorgio Sancristoforo

sorry if I came up with this old topic but I would like to say that I'd love to see a 208 + 218 reissued in "e" fashion with a nice small portable cabinet.

I would buy it at the speed of light.

--- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, "kkonkkrete" <kkonkkrete@...> wrote:
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> --- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, Chris Muir <cbm@> wrote:
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> > What are the reasons people would like to see a 208e? What are the  
> > features of the original 208 that would make you want a reissue?
> > 
> > For me, they include:
> >   - immediate control of a nice little voice architecture
> >   - sliders provide fast manipulation of multiple parameters  
> > simultaneously
> >   - uncorrelated random outputs a really nice touch
> 
> Those sound like pretty good reasons to me!  I'd like a 208 re-release
> or updated equivalent because it would be (even) more portable than a
> 200e system, and because it would have MORE LIMITED functionality. 
> That's a good thing.  It is easier to have a complete grasp of the
> sonic potential with a less open-ended architecture.
>

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