200e

Hi,

I'm pushing my system around a little, and need to free up some space  
and cash for some different modules, so I'm selling my 249e DARF. The  
249e originally sold for $1900. It has the latest firmware.

I'm sure that everyone here is familiar with the 249e, but just in  
case, here's the text from the original website:

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MODEL 249e
DUAL ARBITRARY FUNCTION GENERATOR

The Model 249e Dual Arbitrary Function Generator consists of two multi- 
segment function generators drawing from a parallel data base, each  
with its own clocking and addressing resources.

Organized as a 24 stage circular sequencer, each stage stores the  
values of two control voltages, four pitches (internally sent to model  
259e Complex Waveform Generators), two pulses, a time value, and some  
logic functions. Control voltages may be interpolated and modulated  
with externally applied voltages.

The time value can be expressed as a number of MIDI clock ticks, beat  
fractions, or can be derived (and scaled) from an external voltage.  
Time values can be scaled separately for each output section.

A stage select facility provides for voltage control of stage  
position, either with continuous control, or sampled, pulse-driven  
control.

Logic functions include the incrementing of loop counters and  
conditional jumps, with assignable probability. Editing can be  
performed while sequencers are progressing.

The 249e duplicates and extends the functionality of the Model 248  
Multiple Arbitrary Function Generator.

The 249e’s database can be stored and retrieved with the 225e preset  
manager.

===

- C

Chris Muir
cbm@well.com	
http://www.xfade.com

Hi Chris

Interested to know what you intend to move buy?

Ross

>

On Dec 28, 2008, at 10:34 PM, amnesia wrote:
> Interested to know what you intend to move buy?


I have Mark Verbos' 258 clone and CV processor on order, and I really  
need a 285e.

- C

Chris Muir
cbm@well.com	
http://www.xfade.com

email sent...

has anyone ever modded the 200e, replacing the mini jacks with banana?

On Dec 29, 2008, at 2:34 AM, amnesia wrote:
> has anyone ever modded the 200e, replacing the mini jacks with banana?
>

It's not just a matter of changing out jacks. The mini jacks are  
mounted to a circuit board (along with the pots & LEDs, and  
occasionally LCDs), but the banana jacks are deeper than that, so they  
poke through holes in the circuit board. If bananas were going to be  
used instead, it would mean replacing pots with pots that had longer  
shafts, replacing LEDs so that they were long enough to poke through,  
finding a new way to mount the LCDs, in short, a nightmare.

- C

Chris Muir
cbm@well.com	
http://www.xfade.com

Not to mention decimating a fundamental ethos of the circuits'  
interest in coupling; the system's nuanced handling of audio signals  
vs cv signals.

Amnesia, I found the separation arbitrary before I'd spent time on  
Buchla but after some years it is now how I prefer things...  It  
makes Good Sense in use.  Which interactions are you finding  
restricted without this modification?

On Dec 29, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Chris Muir wrote:

>
> On Dec 29, 2008, at 2:34 AM, amnesia wrote:
> > has anyone ever modded the 200e, replacing the mini jacks with  
> banana?
> >
>
> It's not just a matter of changing out jacks. The mini jacks are
> mounted to a circuit board (along with the pots & LEDs, and
> occasionally LCDs), but the banana jacks are deeper than that, so they
> poke through holes in the circuit board. If bananas were going to be
> used instead, it would mean replacing pots with pots that had longer
> shafts, replacing LEDs so that they were long enough to poke through,
> finding a new way to mount the LCDs, in short, a nightmare.
>
> - C
>
> Chris Muir
> cbm@well.com	
> http://www.xfade.com
>
>
>

On Dec 29, 2008, at 9:28 AM, damon wrote:
> Which interactions are you finding
> restricted without this modification?


I bet he just has a lot of banana cables :-)  Seriously, if Ross is  
trying to interface with his Serge, I can see the lure of wanting an  
all-banana Buchla.

That said, I agree w/ Damon that once you get used to it, the  
separation can be a good thing. I don't even see the grey audio  
cables, if I'm tracing a CV.

- C

Chris Muir
cbm@well.com	
http://www.xfade.com

It was really just a general question..not thinking about it.
Since I have had the Buchla I havent used the EMS, Serge or euro.
>
>

As I understand it.  The audio path and CV path of the 200e (or 200) is 
not really interchangable.  The audio signals are only 1vpp.



--- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, amnesia <amni56@...> wrote:

>
> It was really just a general question..not thinking about it.
> Since I have had the Buchla I havent used the EMS, Serge or euro.
> >
> >
>

I have actually done the opposite: changed some Serge modules' jacks 
from banana to 1/8-in., to simplfy interaction between them and the 
Buchla.
Examples: Wave Multiplier, Triple Waveshaper, ring modulator, 
comparators.
The results are superb...

On Dec 31, 2008, at 3:02 PM, cuari7 wrote:

> I have actually done the opposite: changed some Serge modules' jacks
> from banana to 1/8-in., to simplfy interaction between them and the
> Buchla.


Did you scale the audio levels to each others standards?

- C

Chris Muir
cbm@well.com	
http://www.xfade.com

Nope.

Haven't felt the need to.
However,  I haven't compared the output level of the two different 
audio mixers. I'll try that next time I tinker with it....