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Hello,

i need some help,

I use Codewarrior for 68k (legal version) and want to test/programm 
an 68360 QUICC-Board. Unfortunately the BDM-Parallel Interface ist 
unfindable, so ich choose to build an BDM Interface myself, i found 
an BDM-PD-Interface based on the original Motorola Design an built it.

But Codewarrior only supplys the P&E Micro CPU32 BDM Interface (or 
the P&E Lightning card) now a need a Schematic of the P&E Interface 
or at least a Pin Out for Parallel-Port, which Signal comes out to 
which Parallel Port Register (BDM-PD Interface uses Control and 
Status Register) (P&E uses Data, Control and Status Register of LPT1 
I Suppose..)

Please help, I neet to test the board.

Do you have any suggestions for my Problem?

Best Regards

Jochen

mailto:jo667@...

On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 12:01:32PM -0000, jochen_stroebel wrote:
> But Codewarrior only supplys the P&E Micro CPU32 BDM Interface (or the
> P&E Lightning card) now a need a Schematic of the P&E Interface or at
> least a Pin Out for Parallel-Port, which Signal comes out to which
> Parallel Port Register (BDM-PD Interface uses Control and Status
> Register) (P&E uses Data, Control and Status Register of LPT1 I
> Suppose..)

p&e still sells BDM interfaces for CPU32 processors.
http://www.pemicro.com/ .

there is also a reverse-engineered schematic and source code for a GAL
to build a P&E compatible BDM interface at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bdm/ .

-- 
  Aaron J. Grier  |   Frye Electronics, Tigard, OR   |  aaron@...

Hi, 
thanks for your answer

--- In 68300@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron J. Grier" <aaron@f...> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 12:01:32PM -0000, jochen_stroebel wrote:
> > But Codewarrior only supplys the P&E Micro CPU32 BDM Interface (or 
the
> > P&E Lightning card) now a need a Schematic of the P&E Interface or 
at
> > least a Pin Out for Parallel-Port, which Signal comes out to which
> > Parallel Port Register (BDM-PD Interface uses Control and Status
> > Register) (P&E uses Data, Control and Status Register of LPT1 I
> > Suppose..)
> 
> p&e still sells BDM interfaces for CPU32 processors.
> http://www.pemicro.com/ .

Yes, but for a Student ist a little expensive, if you see the little 
logic function the GAL has to do, perhaps someone has at least the 
pinout with the signals on the Parallel-Port-Side of the P&E Micro 
Interface for CPU32, so i can adapt my homemade PD-BDM-Interface on 
Parallelportcable?  (I am not complete shure the Motorola IDC 
compatible BDM cable ist complete equal (on parallel port side) to the 
P&E ?!? )
 
> there is also a reverse-engineered schematic and source code for a GAL
> to build a P&E compatible BDM interface at
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/bdm/ .
Yes, I see but there is only the discription Motorola IDC compatible 
BDM cable, does it work with Codewarrior for 68k and my QUICC Board 
from Motorola?

> -- 
>   Aaron J. Grier  |   Frye Electronics, Tigard, OR   |  aaron@f...

One more question, ist the Wiggler IDC compatible, too?

Jochen,

I can send you a pre-programmed GAL if you like. Or even a design for 
a BDM P&E Micro design single layer print that I designed with Eagle.
I don't have any prints left to send you.

Avi.

--- In 68300@yahoogroups.com, "jochen_stroebel" 
<jochen_stroebel@y...> wrote:
> Hi, 
> thanks for your answer
> 
> --- In 68300@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron J. Grier" <aaron@f...> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 12:01:32PM -0000, jochen_stroebel wrote:
> > > But Codewarrior only supplys the P&E Micro CPU32 BDM Interface 
(or 
> the
> > > P&E Lightning card) now a need a Schematic of the P&E Interface 
or 
> at
> > > least a Pin Out for Parallel-Port, which Signal comes out to 
which
> > > Parallel Port Register (BDM-PD Interface uses Control and Status
> > > Register) (P&E uses Data, Control and Status Register of LPT1 I
> > > Suppose..)
> > 
> > p&e still sells BDM interfaces for CPU32 processors.
> > http://www.pemicro.com/ .
> 
> Yes, but for a Student ist a little expensive, if you see the 
little 
> logic function the GAL has to do, perhaps someone has at least the 
> pinout with the signals on the Parallel-Port-Side of the P&E Micro 
> Interface for CPU32, so i can adapt my homemade PD-BDM-Interface on 
> Parallelportcable?  (I am not complete shure the Motorola IDC 
> compatible BDM cable ist complete equal (on parallel port side) to 
the 
> P&E ?!? )
>  
> > there is also a reverse-engineered schematic and source code for 
a GAL
> > to build a P&E compatible BDM interface at
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/bdm/ .
> Yes, I see but there is only the discription Motorola IDC 
compatible 

> BDM cable, does it work with Codewarrior for 68k and my QUICC Board 
> from Motorola?
> 
> > -- 
> >   Aaron J. Grier  |   Frye Electronics, Tigard, OR   |  aaron@f...
> 
> One more question, ist the Wiggler IDC compatible, too?

On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 06:53:08AM -0000, jochen_stroebel wrote:
> > p&e still sells BDM interfaces for CPU32 processors.
> > http://www.pemicro.com/ .
> 
> Yes, but for a Student ist a little expensive, if you see the little
> logic function the GAL has to do, perhaps someone has at least the
> pinout with the signals on the Parallel-Port-Side of the P&E Micro
> Interface for CPU32, so i can adapt my homemade PD-BDM-Interface on
> Parallelportcable?

you could use the GNU debugger with your existing PD-BDM-Interface.

> > there is also a reverse-engineered schematic and source code for a
> > GAL to build a P&E compatible BDM interface at
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/bdm/ .
> Yes, I see but there is only the discription Motorola IDC compatible
> BDM cable, does it work with Codewarrior for 68k and my QUICC Board
> from Motorola?  (I am not complete shure the Motorola IDC compatible
> BDM cable ist complete equal (on parallel port side) to the P&E ?!? )

the ICD32 part is/was made by P&E.  it is the same part.

> One more question, ist the Wiggler IDC compatible, too?

I do not know.

-- 
  Aaron J. Grier  |   Frye Electronics, Tigard, OR   |  aaron@...

--- In 68300@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron J. Grier" <aaron@f...> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 06:53:08AM -0000, jochen_stroebel wrote:
> > > p&e still sells BDM interfaces for CPU32 processors.
> > > http://www.pemicro.com/ .
> > 
> > Yes, but for a Student ist a little expensive, if you see the 
little
> > logic function the GAL has to do, perhaps someone has at least the
> > pinout with the signals on the Parallel-Port-Side of the P&E Micro
> > Interface for CPU32, so i can adapt my homemade PD-BDM-Interface 
on
> > Parallelportcable?
> 
> you could use the GNU debugger with your existing PD-BDM-Interface.

I will do it so, if all other way fail.
My homemade PD-BDM Interface is not testet completely, yet and i plan 
to write my own litte BDM Driver for it under Windows XP/2000

> > > there is also a reverse-engineered schematic and source code 
for a
> > > GAL to build a P&E compatible BDM interface at
> > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/bdm/ .
> > Yes, I see but there is only the discription Motorola IDC 
compatible
> > BDM cable, does it work with Codewarrior for 68k and my QUICC 
Board
> > from Motorola?  (I am not complete shure the Motorola IDC 
compatible
> > BDM cable ist complete equal (on parallel port side) to the 
P&E ?!? )
> 
> the ICD32 part is/was made by P&E.  it is the same part.

Many thanks, this was the missing Information, I needed.  :-)

> > One more question, ist the Wiggler IDC compatible, too?
> 
> I do not know.
> 
> -- 
>   Aaron J. Grier  |   Frye Electronics, Tigard, OR   |  aaron@f...

Jochen,

The BDM driver mentioned on the sourceforge.net works flawless on
XP/2000 using giveio.sys. There is no need to write another driver. I
tried on w2k to write a driver but it was a hell of job and it is much
slower that using giveio.sys as is being used
in the BDM project. I don't mind you write a driver but you might fall
in the trap that you are making tools all the time (like me... got a
'332 with the TPU already 4 years ago including the TPU assembly book
but never even made a program using the TPU... yet :-) 

Avi.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 68300@yahoogroups.com [mailto:68300@yahoogroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of jochen_stroebel
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 September, 2005 10:30
> To: 68300@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [68300] Re: P&E Micro CPU32 BDM Interface
> 
> --- In 68300@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron J. Grier" <aaron@f...> wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 06:53:08AM -0000, jochen_stroebel wrote:
> > > > p&e still sells BDM interfaces for CPU32 processors.
> > > > http://www.pemicro.com/ .
> > > 
> > > Yes, but for a Student ist a little expensive, if you see the
> little
> > > logic function the GAL has to do, perhaps someone has at 
> least the 
> > > pinout with the signals on the Parallel-Port-Side of the 
> P&E Micro 
> > > Interface for CPU32, so i can adapt my homemade PD-BDM-Interface
> on
> > > Parallelportcable?
> > 
> > you could use the GNU debugger with your existing PD-BDM-Interface.
> 
> I will do it so, if all other way fail.
> My homemade PD-BDM Interface is not testet completely, yet 
> and i plan to write my own litte BDM Driver for it under 
> Windows XP/2000
> 
> > > > there is also a reverse-engineered schematic and source code
> for a
> > > > GAL to build a P&E compatible BDM interface at 
> > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/bdm/ .
> > > Yes, I see but there is only the discription Motorola IDC
> compatible
> > > BDM cable, does it work with Codewarrior for 68k and my QUICC
> Board
> > > from Motorola?  (I am not complete shure the Motorola IDC
> compatible
> > > BDM cable ist complete equal (on parallel port side) to the
> P&E ?!? )
> > 
> > the ICD32 part is/was made by P&E.  it is the same part.
> 
> Many thanks, this was the missing Information, I needed.  :-)
> 
> 
> > > One more question, ist the Wiggler IDC compatible, too?
> > 
> > I do not know.
> > 
> > -- 
> >   Aaron J. Grier  |   Frye Electronics, Tigard, OR   |  aaron@f...
> 
> 
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Hello Avi,

i habe the driver package from sourceforge, but no possibility to 
build it, because i dont have the GNU-Develloping tools on my 
computer... and its always better to understand if you can play with 
the code :-) if i had a running Programm for Windows XP/2000 i would 
not write one.. and the old Dos-based BDM Software Did not work on my 
Computer or the Notebook :-(

so long

Jochen

--- In 68300@yahoogroups.com, "Avi Cohen Stuart" 
<avi.cohenstuart@s...> wrote:
> Jochen,
> 
> The BDM driver mentioned on the sourceforge.net works flawless on
> XP/2000 using giveio.sys. There is no need to write another driver. 
I
> tried on w2k to write a driver but it was a hell of job and it is 
much
> slower that using giveio.sys as is being used
> in the BDM project. I don't mind you write a driver but you might 
fall
> in the trap that you are making tools all the time (like me... got a
> '332 with the TPU already 4 years ago including the TPU assembly 
book
> but never even made a program using the TPU... yet :-) 
> 
> Avi.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 68300@yahoogroups.com [mailto:68300@yahoogroups.com] On 
> > Behalf Of jochen_stroebel
> > Sent: Wednesday, 14 September, 2005 10:30
> > To: 68300@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [68300] Re: P&E Micro CPU32 BDM Interface
> > 
> > --- In 68300@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron J. Grier" <aaron@f...> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 06:53:08AM -0000, jochen_stroebel wrote:
> > > > > p&e still sells BDM interfaces for CPU32 processors.
> > > > > http://www.pemicro.com/ .
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, but for a Student ist a little expensive, if you see the
> > little
> > > > logic function the GAL has to do, perhaps someone has at 
> > least the 
> > > > pinout with the signals on the Parallel-Port-Side of the 
> > P&E Micro 
> > > > Interface for CPU32, so i can adapt my homemade PD-BDM-
Interface
> > on
> > > > Parallelportcable?
> > > 
> > > you could use the GNU debugger with your existing PD-BDM-
Interface.
> > 
> > I will do it so, if all other way fail.
> > My homemade PD-BDM Interface is not testet completely, yet 
> > and i plan to write my own litte BDM Driver for it under 
> > Windows XP/2000
> > 
> > > > > there is also a reverse-engineered schematic and source code
> > for a
> > > > > GAL to build a P&E compatible BDM interface at 
> > > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/bdm/ .
> > > > Yes, I see but there is only the discription Motorola IDC
> > compatible
> > > > BDM cable, does it work with Codewarrior for 68k and my QUICC
> > Board
> > > > from Motorola?  (I am not complete shure the Motorola IDC
> > compatible
> > > > BDM cable ist complete equal (on parallel port side) to the
> > P&E ?!? )
> > > 
> > > the ICD32 part is/was made by P&E.  it is the same part.
> > 
> > Many thanks, this was the missing Information, I needed.  :-)
> > 
> > 
> > > > One more question, ist the Wiggler IDC compatible, too?
> > > 
> > > I do not know.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > >   Aaron J. Grier  |   Frye Electronics, Tigard, OR   |  
aaron@f...

> > 
> > 
> > 
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Jochem,

www.cygwin.com will get you a full blown GNU environment. In any case
you'll need Cygwin in case you want to switch to the gnu tools suite in
combination of a working and up to date gdb with bdm. The gnu tools for
the m68k you can download from the website that is to be found here:
http:// www.davehylands.com/avi/index.htm 

I agree that it is nice and better to understand the code but
reinventing the BDM wheel is nice but takes a lot of time. I guess you
want to write code for your board as well :-)

Avi.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 68300@yahoogroups.com [mailto:68300@yahoogroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of jochen_stroebel
> Sent: Thursday, 15 September, 2005 15:20
> To: 68300@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [68300] Re: P&E Micro CPU32 BDM Interface
> 
> Hello Avi,
> 
> i habe the driver package from sourceforge, but no 
> possibility to build it, because i dont have the 
> GNU-Develloping tools on my computer... and its always better 
> to understand if you can play with the code :-) if i had a 
> running Programm for Windows XP/2000 i would not write one.. 
> and the old Dos-based BDM Software Did not work on my 
> Computer or the Notebook :-(
> 
> so long
> 
> Jochen
> 
> --- In 68300@yahoogroups.com, "Avi Cohen Stuart" 
> <avi.cohenstuart@s...> wrote:
> > Jochen,
> > 
> > The BDM driver mentioned on the sourceforge.net works flawless on 
> > XP/2000 using giveio.sys. There is no need to write another driver.
> I
> > tried on w2k to write a driver but it was a hell of job and it is
> much
> > slower that using giveio.sys as is being used in the BDM project. I 
> > don't mind you write a driver but you might
> fall
> > in the trap that you are making tools all the time (like me... got a
> > '332 with the TPU already 4 years ago including the TPU assembly
> book
> > but never even made a program using the TPU... yet :-)
> > 
> > Avi.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: 68300@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:68300@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
> > > Of jochen_stroebel
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 14 September, 2005 10:30
> > > To: 68300@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [68300] Re: P&E Micro CPU32 BDM Interface
> > > 
> > > --- In 68300@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron J. Grier" <aaron@f...> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 06:53:08AM -0000, jochen_stroebel wrote:
> > > > > > p&e still sells BDM interfaces for CPU32 processors.
> > > > > > http://www.pemicro.com/ .
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes, but for a Student ist a little expensive, if you see the
> > > little
> > > > > logic function the GAL has to do, perhaps someone has at
> > > least the
> > > > > pinout with the signals on the Parallel-Port-Side of the
> > > P&E Micro
> > > > > Interface for CPU32, so i can adapt my homemade PD-BDM-
> Interface
> > > on
> > > > > Parallelportcable?
> > > > 
> > > > you could use the GNU debugger with your existing PD-BDM-
> Interface.
> > > 
> > > I will do it so, if all other way fail.
> > > My homemade PD-BDM Interface is not testet completely, yet and i 
> > > plan to write my own litte BDM Driver for it under Windows XP/2000
> > > 
> > > > > > there is also a reverse-engineered schematic and source code
> > > for a
> > > > > > GAL to build a P&E compatible BDM interface at 
> > > > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/bdm/ .
> > > > > Yes, I see but there is only the discription Motorola IDC
> > > compatible
> > > > > BDM cable, does it work with Codewarrior for 68k and my QUICC
> > > Board
> > > > > from Motorola?  (I am not complete shure the Motorola IDC
> > > compatible
> > > > > BDM cable ist complete equal (on parallel port side) to the
> > > P&E ?!? )
> > > > 
> > > > the ICD32 part is/was made by P&E.  it is the same part.
> > > 
> > > Many thanks, this was the missing Information, I needed.  :-)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > One more question, ist the Wiggler IDC compatible, too?
> > > > 
> > > > I do not know.
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > >   Aaron J. Grier  |   Frye Electronics, Tigard, OR   |  
> aaron@f...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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