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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT]But very important-Bus. Insurance

2005-09-03 by Don Ingram

> > Don't know. Does it cost money? :-$ 'Bout $300/day. A bunch of us are doing the IPC CID+ course. It's the Australian nanoscopic version of PCB East. I will be displaying one > of my products at the Austronics show...well in a round about > way :-) I'm loaning one of my electr

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT]But very important-Bus. Insurance

2005-09-03 by John Samperi

At 02:05 PM 3/09/2005, you wrote: >Speaking of Accommodation, are you going to the SMCBA conference at the Show >grounds this year? Don't know. Does it cost money? :-$ I will be displaying one of my products at the Austronics show...well in a round about way :-) I'm loaning one o

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT]But very important-Bus. Insurance

2005-09-03 by Don Ingram

John Samperi wrote: >>Product liability Insurance covers defective products that you sell, > > > The ABBI website (SA) points out the if the defect is a result > of an incorrect formula (bad design?) then you are no longer > covered by Public or Product liability it seems. That i

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT]But very important-Bus. Insurance

2005-09-03 by John Samperi

At 01:12 PM 3/09/2005, you wrote: >I could just be a talking dog that can type >> And if I was your owner I'd be rich :-) >PL of $10-20M is a common requirement but isn't that expensive & not that >difficult to obtain. Most clients won't even look at you without it. .............

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT]But very important-Bus. Insurance

2005-09-03 by John Samperi

At 01:37 PM 3/09/2005, you wrote: >Did you do much work with the Access systems ?? No, I only knew a few of the people there. When they combined Access control with another division they moved quite a long way from where I was. Regards John Samperi *******************************

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT]But very important-Bus. Insurance

2005-09-03 by Kathy Quinlan

John Samperi wrote: > At 12:57 PM 3/09/2005, you wrote: > >>Which company John ???? >> >>Kat. (Ex Mil Access Control Systems) > > > FFE (Fire Fighting Enterprises or was it Farm Fresh Eggs :-) ) > Of course they also owned Access Control in Brookvale, the > first computer we had

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT]But very important-Bus. Insurance

2005-09-03 by Don Ingram

> > The story so far: > Worker's compensation is compulsory in Australia if > you operate as a company. Should look at some other > form of accident insurance if you don't. In Queensland at least, Worker's compensation is mandatory if you employ others. If you are the company dir

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT]But very important-Bus. Insurance

2005-09-03 by John Samperi

At 12:57 PM 3/09/2005, you wrote: >Which company John ???? > >Kat. (Ex Mil Access Control Systems) FFE (Fire Fighting Enterprises or was it Farm Fresh Eggs :-) ) Of course they also owned Access Control in Brookvale, the first computer we had was a Z80 based Access Control system

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT]But very important-Bus. Insurance

2005-09-03 by Kathy Quinlan

John Samperi wrote: >>You wouldn't have started! > > > True, but then I had made myself a promise that I would > NEVER work for another company after seeing what James > Hardie did to the company I was working for :'( for which > I had put in my heart and soul for about 12 yeas.

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT]But very important-Bus. Insurance

2005-09-03 by John Samperi

At 11:01 AM 3/09/2005, you wrote: >I enquired about professional indemnity insurance (PII) when >starting my business (6 years ago) but it was then too expensive >(more than what I envisaged to be my salary) OUCH! Well unless you get China like wages :-) >Any warranty (liability)

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Re: [AVR-Chat] [OT]But very important-Bus. Insurance

2005-09-03 by Bernd Felsche

On Saturday 03 September 2005 06:19, John Samperi wrote: > This is when you need professional indemnity insurance. A friend > of mine almost had a heart attack when he checked his insurance > and found out that he did not seem to have professional indemnity > insurance. (he desig

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[OT]But very important-Bus. Insurance

2005-09-02 by John Samperi

G'day all With the cost of running our businesses ever increasing I have been re-assessing my business insurance requirements an have been canvassing ideas from a few colleagues. Then I thought I would cast the net wider, and even if only the Australian conditions would be applic

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Pull down resistors??

2005-09-02 by Ken Holt

John - To go one step further OT, I like your word use "ASS U ME" , and would like to contribute " EM BARE ASS". ( "em" meaning "to cause") Ken John Samperi wrote: >At 12:59 PM 2/09/2005, you wrote: > > >>>>Witness RS-232-C and IBM,for example. >>>> >>>> >.......................

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Bluetooth modules

2005-09-02 by griffonlord

Does Atmel build any? I've been looking at some from Infineon but they never seem to get back to me with any info on them. Where is a good place to purchase and get information on Infineon chips? thanks for any help shannon

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Re: Pull down resistors??

2005-09-02 by Don Kinzer

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, John Samperi wrote: > Have we strayed enough away from the original topic > yet or shall we do a bit more? :-) A topic that is at least tangentially related to the concepts of logic polarity and logic thresholds is that of "active level". A signal

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Re: [AVR-Chat] How To Debounce a Switch 10 ms edge triggered....

2005-09-02 by Farzlina Ab.Hadi

ha ha...i do a lot of programming but really, nothing compares to the great experience of solving problems...sure you can cut and phase examples but wouldn't gain anything...maybe you should rephrase your question.. -------Original Message------- From: Peter Gargano Date: 09/02/0

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How To Debounce a Switch 10 ms edge triggered....

2005-09-02 by Venkat Nagappan

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: Serial Flash

2005-09-02 by Arif YILMAZ

Hi Stefan, I couldn't have a look at the chips at atmel (atmel pdfs just don't show up on my browser) but as far as I know they are not 8 pin devices, but they are cool as well I will consider thank you. And Hi Ivan, most microcontrollers today have schmitt triggered inputs and t

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Pull down resistors??

2005-09-02 by John Samperi

At 12:59 PM 2/09/2005, you wrote: > > >Witness RS-232-C and IBM,for example. ....................... > Why would I have had an RS-232 intercae connected? I was reading a >bank of pushbutton switches. Thousand apologies :-[ You did mention RS232 and having to reverse the logic...

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Railroad AVRs (was: Errors in manuals ...)

2005-09-02 by Chuck Hackett

> From: Thomas Keller > > Chuck Hackett!!!! *WOW* How is your steam locomotive doing!!!!????? Hi Tom, Fine except for the normal repairs, etc. associated with a steam locomotive. We have a meet coming up on the 17th and 18th of this month if you're in the area. > Still workgin o

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Pull down resistors??

2005-09-02 by Thomas Keller

On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 10:33 +1000, John Samperi wrote: > At 12:47 AM 2/09/2005, you wrote: > >Witness RS-232-C and IBM,for example. > ................... > >shoudl be, until I realzied I needed to change the sense of my logic. > >Switched to having ground potential read as a logi

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Pull down resistors??

2005-09-02 by John Samperi

At 12:47 AM 2/09/2005, you wrote: >Witness RS-232-C and IBM,for example. ................... >shoudl be, until I realzied I needed to change the sense of my logic. >Switched to having ground potential read as a logic one,and Vcc as a >logic zero, and everything ran perfectly. Do

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Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ...

2005-09-01 by Thomas Keller

On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 09:28 -0500, David Kelly wrote: > On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:03:53AM -0500, Thomas Keller wrote: > > Now, perhaps itmight be argued that thery could have considered > > modifying the I/O addressing instructiosn to also access this > extended I/O space, but i

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Let the Dust Settle

2005-09-01 by Dennis

So much for RET/RETI and manuals. I think we've exhausted that path. D "When I am working on a problem I never think about beauty. I only think about how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong," Buckminster Fuller

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Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ...

2005-09-01 by Thomas Keller

On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 09:28 -0500, David Kelly wrote: > On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:03:53AM -0500, Thomas Keller wrote: > > > > Now, perhaps itmight be argued that thery could have considered > > modifying the I/O addressing instructiosn to also access this > extended > > I/O spac

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Re: [AVR-Chat] TTFN

2005-09-01 by Mike Murphree

Paul Maddox said: > All, > > I'm off on holiday shortly, so I'm unsubscribing shortly.. > See you all in a couple of weeks Suggestion: Just change your group settings to no email. Mike

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TTFN

2005-09-01 by Paul Maddox

All, I'm off on holiday shortly, so I'm unsubscribing shortly.. See you all in a couple of weeks hasta luego amigos! Paul

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Re: [AVR-Chat] I hate my new tools too!

2005-09-01 by Thomas Keller

On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 21:14 +0200, Lasse Madsen wrote: > So I purchased "The Cable AVR" and what a cable it is... finding out > after plugging in the damn thing that it doesn't have a STK200 > interface connector so my board power supply went straight where that > damn cable was

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Pull down resistors??

2005-09-01 by Thomas Keller

On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 07:45 +1000, John Samperi wrote: > At 04:15 AM 1/09/2005, you wrote: > > > Ummm - a low voltage (0v) is a logic zero. A high voltage (5v) is > > > a logic one. > > Not according to AVR data sheets, it's not. > The convention of using logic 0 for 0 volts > an

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ...

2005-09-01 by Thomas Keller

Chuck Hackett!!!! *WOW* How is your steam locomotive doing!!!!????? Still workgin o n the automatic tmaper project? I'm stil linterested in workig on the controlelr for thast, if you are Tom Keller On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 17:56 -0500, Chuck Hackett wrote: > > From: Dennis > > > > D

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Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ...

2005-09-01 by Thomas Keller

On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 20:51 -0500, Don Jackson wrote: > Dennis wrote: > >>>Data sheet definitions are sometimes wrong as are manuals. I found > >>>that out the hard way with the mega168. > Would you be so kind as to let us know what is wrong in the mega168 > data sheet? I'm about

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Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ...

2005-09-01 by David Kelly

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:03:53AM -0500, Thomas Keller wrote: > > Now, perhaps itmight be argued that thery could have considered > modifying the I/O addressing instructiosn to also access this extended > I/O space, but if I read the data sheet correctly, this would have > invol

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Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ...

2005-09-01 by Thomas Keller

On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 22:45 -0500, Dennis wrote: > Clarify. The GPIOR0 is in a different address space from the other 2 > GP > registers. Why? Haven't a clue. Simple. In the original design specifications for the AVR processors, only 64 sequential bytes in the address spacer were

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Re: Re: Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ...

2005-09-01 by Dennis

I worked for them from '77-'83. Give me a priortized, vectored interrupt system and I'm a happy camper: :->) D ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Samperi" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:51 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ... > At 02:44 PM 1

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Pull down resistors??

2005-09-01 by Ralph Hilton

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:34:49 -0000 you wrote: >--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Keller wrote: >> > Ummm - a low voltage (0v) is a logic zero. A high voltage (5v) is a >> > logic one. >> >> Not according to AVR data sheets, it's not. > >Every AVR datasheet that I've seen de

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Re: Re: Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ...

2005-09-01 by John Samperi

At 02:44 PM 1/09/2005, you wrote: >In a former life, I worked for Motorola Semiconductor NO SWEARING PLEASE!! :-) Regards John Samperi ****************************************************** Ampertronics Pty. Ltd. 11 Brokenwood Place Baulkham Hills, NSW 2153 AUSTRALIA Tel. (02) 96

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I2C

2005-09-01 by aila_alizadeh

hi to all I want to connect 3 or more avr mcu's to another avr that is master.I think that I2C protocol can help me ,but I am not sure . I work with bascom. I see some things in the help of this program that I can't know.e.g. "the chips that t0 pin & int0 pin is not in the same p

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Re: Re: Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ...

2005-09-01 by Don Jackson

Dennis, I don't believe you read what I wrote. In my quotes from the "manual", it very clearly states exactly what you are finding on those three registers. Please re-read very carefully my two quotes from pages 24 and 237. The manual is very clear and correct on this, although a

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Re: Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ...

2005-09-01 by Dennis

You have to "build" the code. I use the SDK500 and Studio4.x. The build will generate the object code. If an error occurs, it will flag it. Try using the GPIOR0, 1, 2 registers with the instructions given in the manual. Only GRIOR0 will work. D ----- Original Message ----- From:

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Re: Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ...

2005-09-01 by Don Jackson

Hi Dennis, Thanks for the reply to my query. I do not wish to revisit the debate on the RET and RETI stuff, and also do not wish to provoke a lot of debate on the GPIORx either, but in my copy of the Atmel Data Sheet (just updated my copy tonight), 2545F dated 06/05 (and it said

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Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ...

2005-09-01 by Dennis

Clarify. The GPIOR0 is in a different address space from the other 2 GP registers. Why? Haven't a clue. They are not in the I/O space like ports. However, the manual leads you to believe that the SBI, CBI etc instructions work on all 3 registers. Not so. The EIMSK is kind of sort

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Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ...

2005-09-01 by Dennis

Changed it to a loop with test of a flag. Works fine. D ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Samperi" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:25 PM Subject: Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ... > At 12:26 PM 1/09/2005, you wrote: >>If you look at the RET and RETI instruct

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Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ...

2005-09-01 by Dennis

No. D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jordan" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:00 PM Subject: Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ... > On 31 Aug 2005 at 21:26, Dennis wrote: > >> The GPIOR0, 1 & 2 do not all respond to the instructions specified. Only >> GPIOr0

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Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ...

2005-09-01 by John Samperi

At 12:26 PM 1/09/2005, you wrote: >If you look at the RET and RETI instructions, the stack operations are the >same, according to the manual. Which they are. >However, the RET does return to the >instruction following the CALL Which is correct. >whereas the RETI returns to the in

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Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ...

2005-09-01 by Mark Jordan

On 31 Aug 2005 at 21:26, Dennis wrote: > The GPIOR0, 1 & 2 do not all respond to the instructions specified. Only > GPIOr0 does. I use the LDS and STS with all 3. Can you use the OUT/IN instruction with them? Mark

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Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ...

2005-09-01 by Dennis

The GPIOR0, 1 & 2 do not all respond to the instructions specified. Only GPIOr0 does. I use the LDS and STS with all 3. If you look at the RET and RETI instructions, the stack operations are the same, according to the manual. However, the RET does return to the instruction follow

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Pull down resistors??

2005-09-01 by Roy E. Burrage

Unless we're discussing HP equipment. They always, ALWAYS, used negative true logic and conventional current flow. Not sure what they do now. REB John Samperi wrote: At 04:15 AM 1/09/2005, you wrote: Ummm - a low voltage (0v) is a logic zero. A high voltage (5v) is a logic one. N

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Re: Re: [AVR-Chat] Errors in manuals ...

2005-09-01 by Don Jackson

Dennis wrote: >>>Data sheet definitions are sometimes wrong as are manuals. I found that >>>out >>>the hard way with the mega168. >>>.... Would you be so kind as to let us know what is wrong in the mega168 data sheet? I'm about to use this one... Thanks, Don

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