2004-10-26 by Clark, Andy
> From: Dave Mucha [ mailto:dave_mucha@yahoo.com ] > I don't worry as my problems are more of how to pay my bills > and what to get the wife for her Birthday. I know the feeling but it's forgetting the birthday I have trouble with - invariably leading to double the cost ;-{ While
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2004-10-26 by Michael Haisley
Ok, I've tried to let the topic die because it's well off topic, but I really think I should chime in. Many people have brought up good and bad points of somthing like gmail. You have to trust someone, I choose to trust google, as one of 500,000, I am far less likely to have a cu
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2004-10-26 by Dave Mucha
--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Michael Haisley wrote: > Ok, I've tried to let the topic die because it's well off topic, but I > really think I should chime in. Many people have brought up good and > bad points of somthing like gmail. > > You have to trust someone, I choose to
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2004-10-25 by erikc
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Velek" To: Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 15:06 Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] What makes 'Gmail' so special? > > Dave Hylands wrote: > > The ads from goole are actually pretty innocuous. They appear over on > > the right hand side of your read-m
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2004-10-25 by James Russo
> I use Bare-Bones PCB > (www.barebonespcb.com), which is a division of Advanced Circuits, for > my prototypes. The quality is excellent and you get a free packet of > microwave popcorn. The only downside is that they pester you a little > bit for production work but you can just
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2004-10-25 by Zack Widup
> > --- "Chuck Hackett" wrote: > > Does anyone know of any layout tools available on the net that > > might be suitable. > Another one is CirCad. It's at http://www.holophase.com/ The free program demo won't produce Gerber or Postscript files but it will allow you to print your p
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2004-10-25 by Dave VanHorn
We're always interested in new tools, especially those that WORK, and have good support! BTW: I'll be mostly offline for the next few days.
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2004-10-25 by Bill Velek
Dave Hylands wrote: > The ads from goole are actually pretty innocuous. They appear over on > the right hand side of your read-message pane. No graphics, just text. > > And the part I find really interesting, is that ads are targeted based > on the content of your email. snip Hmm
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2004-10-25 by Graham Davies
--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Hackett" wrote: > I'll need to be laying > out some boards ... If you can keep the size down to half-eurocard, the free version of Eagle is worth a look. It is a professional quality tool and though it won't be as easy to learn as some you'
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2004-10-25 by Graham Davies
--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "John Allen" wrote: > Idea for next PCB rev: > FTDI FT8U232 USB chip..!! USB is actually in my product plan and I've begun collecting parts. My products don't (yet?!?) bring in enough to call a proper income and in fact my intent is to become know
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2004-10-25 by Graham Davies
--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, techy fellow wrote: > Before I part with [money] can > someone be so kind to share ... > his/ her experience using [the > ECROS Technology AVR ICE-Cube] This is a great idea ... just what discussion groups are for. I don't want to discourage you f
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2004-10-25 by Cosmin Buhu
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hackett" To: Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 8:45 PM Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] PSTN/PPP support > Ok, you've convinced me that I should seriously consider Ethernut. Since I've > got my hands full with SW development without adding board deve
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2004-10-25 by Jeremy Brandon
--- "Chuck Hackett" wrote: > Does anyone know of any layout tools available on the net that > might be suitable. I use Sprint-Layout, it's very quick: http://www.abacom-online.de/uk/html/sprint-layout.html Jeremy,
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2004-10-25 by Dave Mucha
If you want fast and easy, google WinQCAD. It outputs gerbers and CNC files. Probably the fastest to learn, espically as compared to Eagle. But, it will not win any Olympic medals. There are many programs that will out-do it, but it offers all the basics. Another one to look at i
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2004-10-25 by Astria Nur Irfansyah
Yes, go ahead. It can. In every AVRs there is an Slave Select Pin. The master should activate this pin on the slave to make it an active slave. Remember, only the master can initiate a data transfer. And make sure the max speed of SPI transfer is 1/4 of the system freq (master or
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2004-10-25 by Chuck Hackett
I have just received the Butterfly carrier board and the JTAG ICE Cube from ECROS. Hope to test them tomorrow. I'll let you know. I'll also test the JTAG ICE Cube with the STK-500. ... unless maybe someone else cares to comment before I get to it. Cheers, Chuck Hackett "Good judg
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2004-10-25 by Chuck Hackett
Dingo, Thanks For the info ... Cheers, Chuck From: Dingo [mailto:nsjunklists@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 6:33 PM To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [AVR-Chat] PCB Routing/Layout software If you want cheap professional pcbs done I think the
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2004-10-25 by techy fellow
Hi All, While looking at ECROS Technology website, I came across the, 'JTAG-ICE for Atmel AVR ATmega', and comtemplated to buy one for my STK500. Before I part with USD 53 (ie. including air-mail costs to Singapore), can someone be so kind to share with his/ her experience using
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2004-10-24 by Dingo
If you want cheap professional pcbs done I think the two ppl use are: www.futurlec.com and www.olimex.com I think both accept Eagle files (Amongst others) as Eagle seems to be very very popular (again amongst other programs too) Check out the cost of single / double sided before
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2004-10-24 by Chuck Hackett
Thanks for the replies. I'm checking out Eagle (http://www.cadsoft.de) now ... Cheers, Chuck Hackett "Good judgment comes from experience, experience comes from bad judgment" 7.5" gauge Union Pacific Northern (4-8-4) 844 http://www.whitetrout.net/Chuck
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2004-10-24 by Dave VanHorn
Eagle is quite popular.
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2004-10-24 by Leon Heller
----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck Hackett To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:29 PM Subject: [AVR-Chat] PCB Routing/Layout software I'll need to be laying out some boards for signal conditioning and I/O (optos, relays, etc.) and I'd like them to
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2004-10-24 by Chuck Hackett
I'll need to be laying out some boards for signal conditioning and I/O (optos, relays, etc.) and I'd like them to have a professional look. One offs for my own consumption not for sale. I've downloaded AutoTrax. Nice program, but I don't think I can justify the cost (after the fr
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2004-10-24 by Dave Hylands
The ads from goole are actually pretty innocuous. They appear over on the right hand side of your read-message pane. No graphics, just text. And the part I find really interesting, is that ads are targeted based on the content of your email. Normally, I ignore ads, because they h
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2004-10-24 by stevech
Google's gmail spam reduction - do you think the amount of spam that google would eliminate would be less than the amount they would stuff into your email each day? Considering gmail is free- you could expect a LOT of ads. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Haisley [mailto:
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2004-10-24 by Chuck Hackett
> From: Chuck Hackett > .... > Ok, you've convinced me that I should seriously consider > Ethernut. Since I've got my hands full with SW development > without adding board development. Does someone have a board > made up with the components to support PPP? Or, can I add a > secon
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2004-10-24 by Chuck Hackett
> From: Cosmin Buhu > .... > Hello, I can speak only for Ethernut which is a great > design, and open source, software and hardware. Ethernut > boards are available at Egnite but you can build a clone > without ethernet parts, reducing component parts to only a > mega128, 32K SRA
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2004-10-24 by Ridho Alpha
hello.... i want to use multiprocessing with AVR ATMEGA16. i want to use 1 ATMEGA16 for Master and 2 ATMEGA16 for slaves, can SPI handle this????? full-duplex capability??? thank you ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Commu
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2004-10-24 by abbas raftari
I made a avr-pic programer . It works with ponyprog program. sirtiffguy wrote: Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows of a good programmer (either serial or usb, preferably) that can program both PIC's and AVRs? Poking around, I see mostly specialized programmers that do either/o
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2004-10-24 by techy fellow
www.kitsrus.com is selling the same board. Can't remember what kit number was. I think it is kit 117. Pls bear in mind that this kit can program most of the PIC but limited family of AVRs. Good luck. cheers, John Samperi wrote: At 06:49 AM 24/10/04 -0000, you wrote: > > >Hello, >
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2004-10-24 by John Samperi
At 06:49 AM 24/10/04 -0000, you wrote: > > >Hello, > >I was wondering if anyone knows of a good programmer (either serial >or usb, preferably) that can program both PIC's and AVRs? Poking >around, I see mostly specialized programmers that do either/or but >not both. I beleive tha
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2004-10-24 by Cosmin Buhu
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hackett" To: Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 7:41 AM Subject: [AVR-Chat] PSTN/PPP support > > In my search for a chip/daughterboard/etc. that supports PSTN (PPP?) internet > access (dialup) I have come across the following: > > Desired fea
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2004-10-24 by Alex Shepherd
> I assume master code is easy to find for the AVR > (I'm sure I've seen it) is there also slave support? I have not come across any and my guess is that it may have something to do with licensing. I have often looked at the 1-wire bus and wondered if it would be worth developing
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2004-10-24 by sirtiffguy
Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows of a good programmer (either serial or usb, preferably) that can program both PIC's and AVRs? Poking around, I see mostly specialized programmers that do either/or but not both. Chris
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2004-10-24 by Chuck Hackett
In my search for a chip/daughterboard/etc. that supports PSTN (PPP?) internet access (dialup) I have come across the following: http://www.iready.org/projects/imm/ Looks interesting but appears to be obsolete as I can't find anywhere that sells it. I cam across a ref to it here h
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2004-10-24 by Chuck Hackett
I was under the impression that Dallas 1-Wire networks were strictly short distance but while scanning the Dallas site I came across: http://pdfserv.maxim-ic.com/en/an/tb1.pdf Which talks about bus lengths of 100 meters and even up to 300 meters. I assume master code is easy to f
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2004-10-23 by Jeffrey Engel
Thanks! Initially, I did forget the AVRX environmental variable, but it's now correct. Jeff Engel --- Larry Barello wrote: > > You should direct this question to the AvrX mailing > list at Yahoogroups. > > Have you defined the AVRX environment variable? It > points to the directo
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2004-10-23 by Larry Barello
You should direct this question to the AvrX mailing list at Yahoogroups. Have you defined the AVRX environment variable? It points to the directory that contains avrx/Examples/TestCases The error message is Make telling you that it needs to build avrx_generatesinglestep.o, but do
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2004-10-23 by stevech
thanks - but rather than add to lessening privacy - I would choose to archive stuff on my own hard drives, since they are at $0.50 per GB these days. I use a 120GB to backup my 80's via Acronis which compresses well. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Haisley [mailto:mhaisl
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2004-10-23 by Jeffrey Engel
Hi, I'm trying AVRx for the first time and have run into some difficulties I don't know how to resolve. Using the latest version of WinAVR (3.4.1) and the latest version of AVRx (2.6e), I get the following errors from a clean install, 'make clean' and 'make gcc': ================
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2004-10-23 by Michael Haisley
Well, eventually (read: soon) it will be a free-for-all, the invite system was for BETA purposes, since google can control the number of invites, they can control the number of users, and increase the load as they go. I still have a couple of email accounts that I check via outlo
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2004-10-23 by Bill Velek
Michael Haisley wrote: > Gmail is distinctive in a lot of ways, and provides a lot of features, > that are not present in most other clients. > > First off: Space, a whopping 1GB of space comes with each account. > > Second and probably most important is google's search functions
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2004-10-23 by Henry Carl Ott
As Larry remarked, caps (for noise immunity) don't do much on the newer chips. The 4.7uf just seemed very large to me. Time to check power supply, & as always, check fuses. -carl At 01:02 PM 10/23/2004, you wrote: > I was using 100nF and tried 4.7uF. No luck. Same behavior. > > M
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2004-10-23 by Larry Barello
Putting a capacitor and resistor on the reset line is archaic and doesn't do anything to improve the performance of the AVR chip. Period. It comes from the "classic" AVR days - and even then it was useless. You need a proper external reset chip for those processors. Any of the me
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2004-10-23 by Henry Carl Ott
That 4.7 uf cap seems a little large to me. I don't know if there is a maximum rise time on the reset signal, but something in the .01 range might be more appropriate. -carl At 12:25 PM 10/23/2004, you wrote: > Hi, > > I'm having a weird problem with a Mega8 running on the >inter
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2004-10-23 by Mark Jordan
Sorry guys, It was a Timer initialization problem, nothing related to the Power-On Reset. My bad... Thanks for your help! Mark Jordan On 23 Oct 2004 at 11:01, Larry Barello wrote: > > Putting a capacitor and resistor on the reset line is archaic and doesn't do > anything to impro
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2004-10-23 by Michael Haisley
Dave, that should be 1GB :) On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 16:46:22 -0000, Dave Mucha wrote: > > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "fnatmed" wrote: > > > > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Hackett" > > wrote: > > > > From: Dave Mucha > > > > .... > > > > Maybe if others need one, you
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2004-10-23 by Michael Haisley
Gmail is distinctive in a lot of ways, and provides a lot of features, that are not present in most other clients. First off: Space, a whopping 1GB of space comes with each account. Second and probably most important is google's search functions, are built into the email client,
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2004-10-23 by Mark Jordan
I was using 100nF and tried 4.7uF. No luck. Same behavior. Mark On 23 Oct 2004 at 13:43, Henry Carl Ott wrote: > > That 4.7 uf cap seems a little large to me. > I don't know if there is a maximum rise time on the reset signal, but > something in the .01 range might be more approp
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2004-10-23 by Bill Velek
snipped stuff about Google's 'Gmail' and needing an invitation, etc. I'm curious whether 'Gmail' has anything that sets it apart from, let's say, 'Hotmail'. I've had a couple of Hotmail accounts over the years that I practically _never_ use, and then I guess they end up expiring
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