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Re: [AVR-Chat] back-up power supply circuit

2004-03-14 by Wagner Lipnharski

Battery ---------->|----o----o MCU +VCC Main 5V6 Diode | Main +5V, Backup +4.8V | | Battery----------->|----' Backup 5.5V Diode I guess simpler than that is impossible. Does it solve your problem? jaythesis wrote: > hi! > > does anyone have a circuit design on back-up power suppl

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RE: [AVR-Chat] AVR Compiler: which is the best

2004-03-14 by stevech

there are two free IDEs and one low cost IDE to work with WinAVR (GCC), so you don't have to muck with makefiles. -----Original Message----- From: Larry Barello [mailto:yahoo@barello.net] Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:51 AM To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] AV

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Hello and EMI/RFI

2004-03-14 by VA3TO

>Sorry for any wrong wordings or phrases, but english is not my native >language. An if I sounded a little brisk - maybe I just needed a >little venting :) > > > Your english is better than many posters of which is their native language :) Hugh

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Re: Hello and EMI/RFI

2004-03-14 by Stefan Wimmer

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, John Johnson wrote: > > Do you have a snubber network across the relay contacts ? > no, what do you recommend? 10ohm and 10nf in series? I couldn't find a good web resource, so I'm kind of guessing. This subject is asked astonishingly often (not o

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Re: [AVR-Chat] AVR Compiler: which is the best

2004-03-14 by John Johnson

BASCOM is great for getting results in a hurry. One of my reservations with it is it's strange behavior when you mix a keyword into a variable name. Off the top of my head: support = &h12 Might get misinterpreted because support contains the word port. Again, that's just an examp

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RE: [AVR-Chat] AVR Compiler: which is the best

2004-03-14 by Larry Barello

I second BASCOM as easy and quick. It is terrible for large or complex as the code generation is mediocre at best. But if you use mainly the library support (e.g. keyboard input, LCD output, one wire interface, etc), those are all written in assembly and are generally very tight.

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Re: AVR Compiler: Bascom

2004-03-14 by VA3TO

Sorry...Bascom is $85 ($59 if you're a student or cross upgrading from Bascom-8051). Still a deal ! Hugh

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Re: [AVR-Chat] AVR Compiler: which is the best

2004-03-14 by VA3TO

I never took to C and I usually prefer assembler but when it comes to the AVR, I am partial to Bascom. Todays Basic compilers are much more structured & efficient and have come a long way since the days of GOTO 100. "This is not your father's Basic" :) Bascom has a lot of built-i

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Re: [AVR-Chat] AVR Compiler: which is the best

2004-03-14 by David VanHorn

At 03:14 PM 3/14/2004 +0000, markevans_1 wrote: >Ok, I hope this message isnt the start of a huge thread, but I would >like biased/unbiased opinions on what you guys recon is the best >compiler for the AVR microcontroller. Is there a bad one? The AVR was designed for C, but there

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AVR Compiler: which is the best

2004-03-14 by markevans_1

Ok, I hope this message isnt the start of a huge thread, but I would like biased/unbiased opinions on what you guys recon is the best compiler for the AVR microcontroller. Basically I want something that is cheap, ideally comes with a fuctional IDE and is quick to code with ( has

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Oscillator Lock?!?!

2004-03-14 by David VanHorn

At 08:51 AM 3/14/2004 -0500, John Johnson wrote: >On Sunday, Mar 14, 2004, at 08:45 US/Eastern, David VanHorn wrote: > >> At 08:38 AM 3/14/2004 -0500, John Johnson wrote: >> >>> Not to split hairs here, but the two caps will never be equal. >> Or are you making the case, that lik

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Oscillator Lock?!?!

2004-03-14 by John Johnson

On Sunday, Mar 14, 2004, at 08:45 US/Eastern, David VanHorn wrote: > At 08:38 AM 3/14/2004 -0500, John Johnson wrote: > >> Not to split hairs here, but the two caps will never be equal. > Or are you making the case, that like two resistors, they may be > 0.001% off no matter how

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Oscillator Lock?!?!

2004-03-14 by David VanHorn

At 08:38 AM 3/14/2004 -0500, John Johnson wrote: >Not to split hairs here, but the two caps will never be equal. I think you're very much splitting hairs. Look at the crystal manufacturer's data sheets, and tell me where they show unequal values in any normal application. Or are

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Re: [AVR-Chat] back-up power supply circuit

2004-03-14 by John Johnson

Sorry, it's the backup.jpg file. Regards, JJ On Sunday, Mar 14, 2004, at 08:33 US/Eastern, John Johnson wrote: > Here's a rough sketch: > > http://homepage.mac.com/johnatl/FileSharing25.html > > Regards, > JJ > > On Sunday, Mar 14, 2004, at 00:55 US/Eastern, jaythesis wrote: > >>

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Oscillator Lock?!?!

2004-03-14 by John Johnson

Not to split hairs here, but the two caps will never be equal. Regards, JJ On Saturday, Mar 13, 2004, at 21:39 US/Eastern, LightYearCS wrote: > Ladies and Gentlemen: > > > > This is a rumor I heard. Even a field engineer thinks he > heard of this also. > > > > It’s said that if y

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Re: [AVR-Chat] back-up power supply circuit

2004-03-14 by John Johnson

Here's a rough sketch: http://homepage.mac.com/johnatl/FileSharing25.html Regards, JJ On Sunday, Mar 14, 2004, at 00:55 US/Eastern, jaythesis wrote: > hi! > > does anyone have a circuit design on back-up power supply? like if > the main power is cut-off, the battery automatically

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Oscillator Lock?!?!

2004-03-14 by David VanHorn

At 09:46 AM 3/14/2004 +0000, Brian Fairchild wrote: >They are not equal on the STK300 and there is no reason they should be equal. Sorry, that's wrong. The two caps absolutely should be equal, unless you have a good reason for them not to be. The two caps are in series, from the

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Oh come on now...

2004-03-14 by VA3TO

The I2C limit is specified by the bus loading in capacitance...to a maximum of 400pF. I guess you have to look at this spec for each I2C device on your bus, add them up and make sure ththe total doesn't exceed 400pF. Hugh LightYearCS wrote: It can’t be that difficult. How many SP

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Re: [AVR-Chat] back-up power supply circuit

2004-03-14 by VA3TO

I like the KISS approach... Depending on your needs, you can use a SPDT relay with a mains powered coil. When the power is on, the relay is energized and the N.O. contacts closed to make the DC circuit from power supply to your MCU board. (common to the MCU board, NO to the power

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Oscillator Lock?!?!

2004-03-14 by LightYearCS

Thanks for putting this behind me. I didn't think it was a problem. I only heard this from one person and a Atmel field engineer who thought he heard it. I'll probably ask in a couple other forums just to make sure. Barry -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Quinlan [mailto:kat

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RE: [AVR-Chat] back-up power supply circuit

2004-03-14 by LightYearCS

Take a look at Texas Instruments Power MUX chips. These are idea for automatic power switch-over applications. I'm using the TPS2115 and it rocks: http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tps2115.html Barry -----Original Message----- From: jaythesis [mailto:jaythesis@yahoo.com

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: Alternative to using ICP for decoding PWM

2004-03-14 by Kathy Quinlan

> -----Original Message----- > From: Adam Bradley [mailto:adam_j_bradley@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2004 4:49 PM > To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: Alternative to using ICP for decoding PWM > > > Larry, > > Thanks for your feedback on this. One comm

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Oscillator Lock?!?!

2004-03-14 by Brian Fairchild

They are not equal on the STK300 and there is no reason they should be equal. -----Original Message----- From: LightYearCS [mailto:lightyearcs@zippnet.net] Sent: 14 March 2004 09:27 To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Oscillator Lock?!?! Thanks for putting this b

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Oscillator Lock?!?!

2004-03-14 by Kathy Quinlan

-----Original Message----- From: LightYearCS [mailto:lightyearcs@zippnet.net] Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2004 10:39 AM To: AVR-chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AVR-Chat] Oscillator Lock?!?! Ladies and Gentlemen: This is a rumor I heard. Even a field engineer thinks he heard of this als

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Re: Alternative to using ICP for decoding PWM

2004-03-14 by Adam Bradley

Larry, Thanks for your feedback on this. One comment, I've never seen C look so much like assembly :) Adam --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Barello" wrote: > I have used INT0, INT1, ICP and the Analog Comparator for decoding four > channels of PWM at the same time (each on

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Alternative to using ICP for decoding PWM

2004-03-14 by Larry Barello

I have used INT0, INT1, ICP and the Analog Comparator for decoding four channels of PWM at the same time (each one has selectable positive and negative edge triggers). If you use the analog comparator, of course, you need to set the other half to vcc/2 so it takes two pins... You

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Oscillator Lock?!?!

2004-03-14 by David VanHorn

At 06:39 PM 3/13/2004 -0800, LightYearCS wrote: >Ladies and Gentlemen: > > > > This is a rumor I heard. Even a field engineer thinks he heard of this also. > > > > It s said that if you use the same values for each of the capacitors used in the crystal oscillator circuit that som

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back-up power supply circuit

2004-03-14 by jaythesis

hi! does anyone have a circuit design on back-up power supply? like if the main power is cut-off, the battery automatically takes over to supply the MCU. can i have the design? thanks in advance. -jay

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Alternative to using ICP for decoding PWM

2004-03-14 by Adam Bradley

Not 100% sure but it looks like using ICP on the Butterfly is out, whats a useful alternative for decoding PWM? External Interrupt pin? I hope I'm answering my own question correctly - would designating a pin as an external interrupt be appropriate? From datasheet from ATMEGA169.

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Oscillator Lock?!?!

2004-03-14 by LightYearCS

YES!! Oh yes I love it when I can get other people to do my work :) *sigh* I'm so stinking happy now. Thanks :) Of course I will double check this information. Anyone heard about this lockup thing? Is it a malicious rumor? Barry -----Original Message----- From: samperi@ampertroni

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Oscillator Lock?!?!

2004-03-14 by samperi@ampertronics.com.au

At 06:39 PM 13/03/04 -0800, you wrote: > Oh, and by the way, how many SPI devices do >you think the ATmega64 can handle, hrm?? Well you did say you could work it out but were being lazy :-) So if each pin can source and sink ~20mA and each input has an input current of less than

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Re: Butterfly

2004-03-14 by Adam Bradley

Quentin et al, Do you happen to know if further analysis was done on port usage on the Butterfly, specifically the ICP1 (PD0). A really handy pin to have free! Based on http://members.shaw.ca/climber/avrbutterfly it looks like its used by j401 for seg22. Any ideas? Adam --- In AV

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Oscillator Lock?!?!

2004-03-14 by LightYearCS

Ladies and Gentlemen: This is a rumor I heard. Even a field engineer thinks he heard of this also. It’s said that if you use the same values for each of the capacitors used in the crystal oscillator circuit that sometimes the oscillator will not start up and remain in a state of

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Wanted: unused Dev boards, Butterfly etc..

2004-03-14 by Cobb, Quentin

I'm looking for large piles of spare cash, US$, CAN$ or UK£ Anyone? -----Original Message----- From: VA3TO To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat Mar 13 09:00:08 2004 Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: Wanted: unused Dev boards, Butterfly etc.. I'm still looking for a spare STK-500 or maybe

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Wanted: unused Dev boards, Butterfly etc..

2004-03-14 by John Johnson

Thanks, didn't think of that! Regards, JJ On Saturday, Mar 13, 2004, at 20:28 US/Eastern, LightYearCS wrote: > Try using http://www.whois.sc/domain-suggestions/?q= > > It may give you their phone number. Let me take a look. > > This person may know: > > Administrative Contact: >

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: Wanted: unused Dev boards, Butterfly etc..

2004-03-14 by LightYearCS

Try using http://www.whois.sc/domain-suggestions/?q= It may give you their phone number. Let me take a look. This person may know: Administrative Contact: Bonnard, Alan 24 William Street Paterson, NSW 2421 AU +66 1 8440351 Barry -----Original Message----- From: John Johnson [mail

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Speed Trap

2004-03-14 by John Johnson

You can use the same emitter/receiver pair for both beams. I'm no Michel Asciio, but I'll give it a shot: -----/-----\----- -----u-----^----- / and \ represent mirrors (front surface?). u is a receiver. ^ is an emitter (laser diode?). With a bright enough source, this mirror patt

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Wanted: unused Dev boards, Butterfly etc..

2004-03-14 by John Johnson

Futurlec has some inexpensive boards http://www.futurlec.com/index.shtml although they have no voice phone number on their website that I could find. I'll email them and ask for it, just for grins. They are also advertised on the Atmel site, which means nothing, I'm sure. Regards

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Oh come on now...

2004-03-13 by LightYearCS

It can’t be that difficult. How many SPI interfaces can an ATmega64 handle?

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: Wanted: unused Dev boards, Butterfly etc..

2004-03-13 by LightYearCS

Try using www.findchip.com to search to search for parts. It works very well for such things although normally chip and part numbers are used instead of insect names. -----Original Message----- From: Mike Murphree [mailto:mike@tropo.org] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 8:01 AM Sub

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Re: [AVR-Chat] It just rests

2004-03-13 by Wagner Lipnharski

LightYearCS wrote: > Generally speaking you ALWAYS need bypass capacitors. The AVR chips > generate a lot of power supply spikes which the bypass capacitors > "bypass" to ground. [snip] That's the old tricky point of view. In anyway the capacitors would solve the problem, so... I

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RE: [AVR-Chat] It just rests

2004-03-13 by Dave VanHorn

At 05:10 PM 3/12/2004 -0800, LightYearCS wrote: >Generally speaking you ALWAYS need bypass capacitors. The AVR chips >generate a lot of power supply spikes which the bypass capacitors >"bypass" to ground. That's not really the right way to look at it. All micros, and most logic,

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Re: Wanted: unused Dev boards, Butterfly etc..

2004-03-13 by Adam Bradley

I took am keen to get hold of 1 or 2 Butterfly's, please email me if you have any for sale! Adam --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "radeohedca" wrote: > Looking for 2nd hand AVR Dev board like the Atmel Butterfly, or > anything from EDTP, Futurlec, or ??? > Please contact me by e-

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RE: [AVR-Chat] It just rests

2004-03-13 by stevech

did the poster explain what the reset pin circuitry is? -----Original Message----- From: dvanhorn@cedar.net [mailto:dvanhorn@cedar.net] Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 7:45 AM To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Cc: JChavez@soboce.com Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] It just rests > > I forgot to m

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: Speed Trap

2004-03-13 by LightYearCS

Take a look at this line of parts for working with photodiodes: http://www.maxim-ic.com/quick_view2.cfm?qv_pk=3760&ln= -----Original Message----- From: Dave VanHorn [mailto:dvanhorn@cedar.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Speed Trap At 09:23

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AVR Studio 4.8 SP1 USART support

2004-03-13 by Kathy Quinlan

Hi guys, How do we simulate the data being received by the USART in AVR studio 4.8 ? I have read the help file, but do not know how to do it: UART/USARTS The UART/USART is supported by the Simulator. The UART/USART interrupt vectors and the Receive/Transmit pins are set up as des

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