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Re: [AVR-Chat] compilator

2010-07-04 by Jim Wagner

On Jul 4, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Riccardo Castellani wrote: > I bought several books to learn to program my AT-MEGA8535 , but I > need C > compilator. > I'm going to use IAR but I'd like listening your suggestions with > advantages > and disadvantages. > > What compilator can you sug

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Re: compilator

2010-07-04 by Donald H

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Riccardo Castellani" wrote: > > I wish investing on my knowledge, so if you think Winavr is suitable for my > 2 projects I'll use it, otherwise I'll buy IAR because I don't want to study > winavr to replace it in the future with AIR. What do you

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compilator

2010-07-04 by Riccardo Castellani

I bought several books to learn to program my AT-MEGA8535 , but I need C compilator. I'm going to use IAR but I'd like listening your suggestions with advantages and disadvantages. What compilator can you suggest me ? I wish to create 2 projects: 1. AUTOMATIC SPRINKLER TIME for m

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Re: compilator

2010-07-04 by Donald H

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Riccardo Castellani" wrote: > > I bought several books to learn to program my AT-MEGA8535 , but I need C > compilator. > I'm going to use IAR but I'd like listening your suggestions with advantages > and disadvantages. > > What compilator can you

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Re: AtMega8535: remote check by webcam and mobile

2010-06-29 by anickol

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Riccardo Castellani" wrote: > > I'm going to create check system to look my garden by my webcam so hat I can connect to Internet by my cell and monitoring what happens. > Are you able to suggest me a similar project with atmega8535 ? > A good sit

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Re: [AVR-Chat] AtMega8535: remote check by webcam and mobile

2010-06-28 by wagnerj@proaxis.com

> I'm going to create check system to look my garden by my webcam so hat I > can connect to Internet by my cell and monitoring what happens. > Are you able to suggest me a similar project with atmega8535 ? > What do you expect your 8535 to do? Jim Wagner Oregon Research Electroni

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AtMega8535: remote check by webcam and mobile

2010-06-28 by Riccardo Castellani

I'm going to create check system to look my garden by my webcam so hat I can connect to Internet by my cell and monitoring what happens. Are you able to suggest me a similar project with atmega8535 ? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Re: AtMega8535: remote check by webcam and mobile

2010-06-28 by Donald H

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, wagnerj@... wrote: > > > I'm going to create check system to look my garden by my webcam so hat I > > can connect to Internet by my cell and monitoring what happens. > > Are you able to suggest me a similar project with atmega8535 ? > > > > What d

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: ATMega16 I/O port protection diodes

2010-06-23 by Philippe Habib

How about using a separate power supply for the LEDs and some optoisolators between your processor and the LEDs. That way only the LEDs, and maybe some optos can get fried. I worked on some devices that were designed to take a hit from a patient being defrillated and keep on tick

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Mealy, Moore and ???

2010-06-20 by D. Daniel McGlothin

> ... "Mealy, Moore, and xx" where, as I recall, "xx" was ... Maybe xx == Mary : http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.30.4168&rep=rep1&type=pdf xx == Harel : http://www.iar.com/website1/1.0.1.0/372/1/ or maybe not. Daniel

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Mealy, Moore and ???

2010-06-20 by Steven Holder

Was it karnaugh mapping, this was a visual way of reducing the states/transitions of Mealy and Moore state machines, one is a function of it's outputs, the other is a function of the inputs and outputs i think !! lol _____ From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogrou

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Re: Mealy, Moore and ???

2010-06-20 by ecros_technology

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Hackett" wrote: > > ... when I was getting my EE ... > ... I remember a class where we were > studying combinational logic, gate > reduction, etc. using, if I recall > correctly, "Mealy, Moore, and xx" > where, as I recall, "xx" was somethi

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Mealy, Moore and ???

2010-06-19 by Jeff Blaine AC0C

They are tools for simplifying combinational logic. You started out with a set of equations describing what you wanted to build. And the tools helped you to turn the simultaneous equations into a solution. I think matrix tools were part of that but we are going WAY WAY back into

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Mealy, Moore and ???

2010-06-19 by Zack Widup

Those names don't sound familiar. Do you recall what they were pertaining to? Zack On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Chuck Hackett wrote: > > > Here's a diversion from LEDs, Bus Drivers, etc. for a moment ... :-) > > A long time ago (never mind how long ago ) when I was getting my

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Mealy, Moore and ???

2010-06-19 by Jim Wagner

The only thing I remember about is Quine-McClusky reduction algorithm and Karnaugh Mapping. Don't ask me how to use them! Jim Wagner Oregon Research Electronics On Jun 19, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Chuck Hackett wrote: > Here's a diversion from LEDs, Bus Drivers, etc. for a moment ... :-

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Mealy, Moore and ???

2010-06-19 by Chuck Hackett

Here's a diversion from LEDs, Bus Drivers, etc. for a moment ... :-) A long time ago (never mind how long ago ) when I was getting my EE (Computer Design minor) at SUNY Buffalo I remember a class where we were studying combinational logic, gate reduction, etc. using, if I recall

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: ADM 485

2010-06-19 by hossein hashemi

also you are the first that pointed the distance problems & using of RS485,thanx, im thinking more about this project. thank Zack ________________________________ From: Zack Widup To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, June 19, 2010 8:05:34 PM Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: ADM 485

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: ADM 485

2010-06-19 by hossein hashemi

thank Donald for links specially second. ________________________________ From: Donald H To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, June 19, 2010 7:18:38 PM Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: ADM 485 --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "hussein" wrote: > > hi dears > plz tell me how i connect a u

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Re: ATMega16 I/O port protection diodes

2010-06-19 by David Reaves

This is exactly the purpose logic opto-couplers ("opto-isolators") were invented for. Complete isolation, of several kV. You can buy them in SMD and DIP packages, in singles, dual and quad configurations. A couple dollars and you're safe. Very cheap insurance. David Reaves On Fri

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: ADM 485

2010-06-19 by Zack Widup

I discovered a long time ago that all you have to do is enter a part number into Google and it will come up with lots of data on many parts. And lots of suppliers in Hong Kong and China. :-) A lot of companies are now defunct and it's hard to find data sheets on their components

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Re: ADM 485

2010-06-19 by Donald H

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "hussein" wrote: > > hi dears > plz tell me how i connect a uC to pc by ADM485 for a full duplex communication, > how i can set it to receive data or transmit? should i use 2 ADM485? > By your question, you have not looked at the data sheet for th

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: ATMega16 I/O port protection diodes

2010-06-19 by Dave McLaughlin

Hi Chuck, CAN bus is a great way to go with your project. Once you get over the hurdle of figuring out how the controller works then you won't go back to using the likes of RS485 again. :o) If you want to avoid having a microcontroller at your signal ends you could consider the M

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"RS"-485 vs CAN (was ATMega16 I/O port protection diodes)

2010-06-19 by ecros_technology

I've been following this thread, which started as a simple question about the safe current carrying capacity of input protection diodes and morphed into tales of lightning strikes damaging equipment, but now I have a question about the turn it is taking. TIA/EIA-485 was designed

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: ATMega16 I/O port protection diodes

2010-06-19 by Chuck Hackett

> From: Donald H > .... > At the tub was an LCD display and a few buttons that show the user what > was going on, at the equipment room (high voltage) were pumps, heaters, > blowers, relays for lights. > > .... > I asked if the two chips were side-by-side on the PCB. > > He proud

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: ATMega16 I/O port protection diodes

2010-06-19 by hossein hashemi

ok,thank Donald i need to study more about it.i subsituitly come here later. thank a lot.:) ________________________________ From: Donald H To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, June 19, 2010 3:14:18 AM Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: ATMega16 I/O port protection diodes About 20 years

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ADM 485

2010-06-19 by hussein

hi dears plz tell me how i connect a uC to pc by ADM485 for a full duplex communication, how i can set it to receive data or transmit? should i use 2 ADM485?

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Re: ATMega16 I/O port protection diodes

2010-06-18 by Donald H

About 20 years ago I help a young guy design a Hot Tub controller. At the tub was an LCD display and a few buttons that show the user what was going on, at the equipment room (high voltage) were pumps, heaters, blowers, relays for lights. The guy wanted to use two 68hc05 controll

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RE: [AVR-Chat] ATMega16 I/O port protection diodes

2010-06-18 by Chuck Hackett

Thanks for the feedback, my replies below: > From: wagnerj@proaxis.com > .... > Depending on where, in the world ... it could last a > long time as you propose, or it could be toast by this time next year. ... or, in Florida, the same time tomorrow! :-) This product is for the ou

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: CRC using IAR compiler

2010-06-18 by Bob Paddock

> > > > This thread has been active for a while now. Although CRC is a > > superior checksum scheme, considering the effort this seems to be, I > > was curious why you specifically want a CRC checksum, as opposed to a > > simpler checksum scheme? > A checksum will have the same v

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: CRC using IAR compiler

2010-06-17 by Philippe Habib

This has been active because I got pulled away from it for a while. Its kind of a back burner task for me. I did get back to it yesterday and here's what I found out. 1. I was not running the "slow" CRC twice with 0 to flush out the result. After doing this, I do compute a CRC th

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: CRC using IAR compiler

2010-06-17 by David Kelly

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 05:22:42PM +0200, Marc R.J. Brevoort wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jun 2010, Jim Wagner wrote: > > >> could it be a byte order problem in the computed CRC or the > >> polynomial? > > This thread has been active for a while now. Although CRC is a > superior checksum

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: CRC using IAR compiler

2010-06-17 by Marc R.J. Brevoort

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010, Jim Wagner wrote: >> could it be a byte order problem in the computed CRC or the >> polynomial? > might be! > Jim Wagner This thread has been active for a while now. Although CRC is a superior checksum scheme, considering the effort this seems to be, I was cu

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: ATMega16 I/O port protection diodes

2010-06-17 by Tim Mitchell

----Original Message---- From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Bronosky Sent: 17 June 2010 15:31 To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: ATMega16 I/O port protection diodes > > One sure fire way we over come this is th

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: ATMega16 I/O port protection diodes

2010-06-17 by Mike Bronosky

Like Jim pointed out, on outdoor runs lighting is a problem, especially when it comes to devices that can only withstand very small voltages. About 20 years ago where I worked we had two buildings located about 3000 feet apart on our facility. The Northern Telcom phone system, ca

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Re: [AVR-Chat] ATMega16 I/O port protection diodes

2010-06-17 by David Kelly

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 07:52:49AM -0600, David VanHorn wrote: > > The ATMega16's datasheet shows that the I/O pins have diodes from > > the pin to Gnd and Vcc. ?These would seem to protect the pin from > > surge voltages less than Gnd or greater than Vcc but I do not see > > any

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Re: [AVR-Chat] ATMega16 I/O port protection diodes

2010-06-17 by David VanHorn

> The ATMega16's datasheet shows that the I/O pins have diodes from the pin to > Gnd and Vcc. These would seem to protect the pin from surge voltages less > than Gnd or greater than Vcc but I do not see any specification as to what > the max current capability of these diodes is.

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Re: ATMega16 I/O port protection diodes

2010-06-17 by Donald H

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Mitchell" wrote: > > ----Original Message---- > From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike > Bronosky Sent: 17 June 2010 15:31 To: > AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: > ATMega16 I/O

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: ATMega16 I/O port protection diodes

2010-06-17 by Zack Widup

Electronics engineers who are also geophysicists know about it! :-) Zack On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:20 AM, anickol wrote: > > > > > > Depending on where, in the world, this is being installed, it could > > last a long time as you propose, or it could be toast by this time > > next

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Re: ATMega16 I/O port protection diodes

2010-06-17 by anickol

> Depending on where, in the world, this is being installed, it could > last a long time as you propose, or it could be toast by this time > next year. This is the true statement, precisely describing the situation. > It took > several years of sleuthing to figure out that near-b

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Re: [AVR-Chat] ATMega16 I/O port protection diodes

2010-06-16 by wagnerj@proaxis.com

> Background: > > I am considering driving LEDs directly from the ATMega16 I/O pin (current > sink mode) to avoid having to use an additional driver chip, however, the > LEDs are located as much as 800 feet from the ATMega16 on an outdoor > buried > CAT-5 cable (long story). > >

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ATMega16 I/O port protection diodes

2010-06-16 by Chuck Hackett

Background: I am considering driving LEDs directly from the ATMega16 I/O pin (current sink mode) to avoid having to use an additional driver chip, however, the LEDs are located as much as 800 feet from the ATMega16 on an outdoor buried CAT-5 cable (long story). The max current ra

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: CRC using IAR compiler

2010-06-14 by Jim Wagner

might be! Jim Wagner On Jun 13, 2010, at 9:04 PM, stevec wrote: > > could it be a byte order problem in the computed CRC or the > polynomial? > > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Dede wrote: > > > > > > J > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: wagnerj@... > > Sent: 05

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RE: [AVR-Chat] CRC using IAR compiler

2010-06-14 by Dede

J ----- Original Message ----- From: wagnerj@proaxis.com Sent: 05 May 2010 11:13 To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] CRC using IAR compiler > I'm using the IAR compiler V5.11 or 5.12 and need to use the feature > that has the linker write a CRC in the last two by

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Re: CRC using IAR compiler

2010-06-14 by stevec

could it be a byte order problem in the computed CRC or the polynomial? --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Dede wrote: > > > J > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: wagnerj@... > Sent: 05 May 2010 11:13 > To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] CRC using IAR com

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Re: CRC using IAR compiler

2010-06-14 by stevec

could it be a byte order problem in the computed CRC or the polynomial? --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Dede wrote: > > > J > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: wagnerj@... > Sent: 05 May 2010 11:13 > To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] CRC using IAR com

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avr-eclipse plugin gone?

2010-06-08 by dlc

Hey guys, I can find the avr-eclipse project on source forge but I can't download it and Eclipse can't find the plugin from the "add software" button either. Has avr-eclipse plugin become abandonware? I sure HOPE not! thanks, DLC -- -----------------------------------------------

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Bit fields

2010-06-08 by Cat C

Like in a (linked) list you may have extra bytes with info. > To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com > From: microbrix@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 19:03:37 -0600 > Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Bit fields > > > 3. When a packet comes, decrease counter IF it goes into empty (zero) position,

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Bit fields

2010-06-08 by David Kelly

On Jun 7, 2010, at 4:25 PM, David VanHorn wrote: > I have an application that needs to receive a variable number of > packets in a block of data. > I store them into a block-sized array with a packet-sized offset > multiplied by the packet number.. > I need to know when I've rece

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Bit fields

2010-06-08 by Dave McLaughlin

Damn!! I didn't scroll down far enough from your initial message!! Same idea I thought of but reversed bit state!! From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David VanHorn Sent: 08 June 2010 08:07 To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AVR-C

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