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Copy Protection and Trust (was Re: ARV C Training Board)

2009-08-12 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, David VanHorn wrote: > MODERATOR WARNING: > ... keep it civil please. OK, thanks for the warning. I apologize to Mike and everyone for the "brain in gear" comment. I only meant it in the sense that I myself often realize that something I've said o

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Copy Protection and Trust (was Re: ARV C Training Board)

2009-08-12 by Roy E. Burrage

Spend years of your own labor, at odd hours of the day and night as well as intermingled among such things as family and work at a real job, 10s of thousands of your own buckaroos to develop and then market a product only to have some yahoo steal it from you ... or steal your des

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Butterfly mod

2009-08-12 by David VanHorn

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Roland Jollivet wrote: > Clamping to the Vcc rail in this app might not be a good idea. If the > current draw of the entire cct is low, and the Ain voltage goes too high, > it'll just pull the rail voltage up too. So then you need a Zener on the

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Butterfly mod

2009-08-12 by Roland Jollivet

Clamping to the Vcc rail in this app might not be a good idea. If the current draw of the entire cct is low, and the Ain voltage goes too high, it'll just pull the rail voltage up too. So then you need a Zener on the Vcc rail. So just use one on the a/d in, instead. Regards Rolan

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Butterfly mod

2009-08-12 by David VanHorn

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Don Kinzer wrote: > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Dave McLaughlin" wrote: >> I would put a 5.1V zener diode across the input to the AVR ADC > > If you do so, you must be careful to select a size for the upper resistor in the divider so that t

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: Butterfly mod

2009-08-12 by Dave McLaughlin

I can't recall the circuit for the Butterfly, but if I was you I would put a 5.1V zener diode across the input to the AVR ADC input just in case your input goes above 30V or you resistor fails for some unknown reason. This was you will protect the AVR from damage. I find this goo

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Butterfly mod

2009-08-12 by David VanHorn

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:20 AM, u4ia2000 wrote: > The Butterfly will read 0 to 5v. My question is can I get to to read 0 to 30v simply or would take a lot of hardware? Two resistors.

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Copy Protection and Trust (was Re: ARV C Training Board)

2009-08-12 by enkitec@gmail.com

Graham Davies wrote: > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "brewski922" wrote: > > >> ... "Atmel AVR C Training Course >> & Dev. Board" ... software CD is >> copy protected. Any company that >> does not trust me, I don't trust >> them. >> > > You should put your brain in gear before

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Copy Protection and Trust (was Re: ARV C Training Board)

2009-08-12 by brewski922

Graham thanks for the insult about my brain not being in gear. Is that the respect you give to all the people whose opinion you don't agree with, insult them. Grow up; quit calling people names and insulting them. And I do stand by what I said, "I don't trust them", companies tha

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Re: Butterfly mod

2009-08-12 by Don Kinzer

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Dave McLaughlin" wrote: > I would put a 5.1V zener diode across the input to the AVR ADC If you do so, you must be careful to select a size for the upper resistor in the divider so that the current is limited to a safe level for the zener. Most m

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Re: Butterfly mod

2009-08-12 by u4ia2000

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Davies" wrote: > > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "u4ia2000" wrote: > > > > The Butterfly will read 0 to 5v. > > My question is can I get to to > > read 0 to 30v simply or would > > take a lot of hardware? > > It would take two resistors

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Re: Butterfly mod

2009-08-12 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "u4ia2000" wrote: > > The Butterfly will read 0 to 5v. > My question is can I get to to > read 0 to 30v simply or would > take a lot of hardware? It would take two resistors. Just make up a voltage divider. Begin by looking up the schematic of the

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Butterfly mod

2009-08-12 by u4ia2000

The Butterfly will read 0 to 5v. My question is can I get to to read 0 to 30v simply or would take a lot of hardware?

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Copy Protection and Trust (was Re: ARV C Training Board)

2009-08-12 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "brewski922" wrote: > ... "Atmel AVR C Training Course > & Dev. Board" ... software CD is > copy protected. Any company that > does not trust me, I don't trust > them. You should put your brain in gear before you post things like that. Are you the

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Re: ARV C Training Board

2009-08-12 by u4ia2000

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "u4ia2000" wrote: > > What's the best learning tool for the ARV's both interfacing and learning "C"? I've searched here on a lot of the archives and the >Trimmed Wow, Thanks for all the great responces.

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Re: ARV C Training Board

2009-08-12 by brewski922

You already have a Butterfly and Butterfly Carrier. Joe Pardue of Smiley Micros http://www.smileymicros.com/ is big on the Butterfly as a AVR learning platform. He has written a book, "C Programming for Microcontrollers" selling for $45, http://www.smileymicros.com/index.php?modu

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Re: [AVR-Chat] ARV C Training Board

2009-08-12 by Mike Payson

Forgive the shameless plug, but the company I used to work for has a simple prototyping board just for beginners: http://www.maximumrobotics.com/store/p/1111-MaxBoard-ProtoAVR.aspx The board was designed for distinct groups, beginners looking for a simple way to use a AVR with br

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Re: [AVR-Chat] ARV C Training Board

2009-08-12 by Jim Wagner

A Butterfly will get you quite a ways. It IS inexpensive. It will allow you to develop some skill with C. With a built-in bootloader, it is relatively easy to use. It IS short on a diversity of I/O. In addition to the LCD, there is a beeper, I think. It will let you learn a LOT a

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Re: ARV C Training Board

2009-08-12 by stevech11

Avrfreaks.net forum, Smiley's book. If you are a total novice in C, best to start on PCs with C, then move to micros. --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "u4ia2000" wrote: > > What's the best learning tool for the ARV's both interfacing and learning "C"? I've searched here on a lot

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Re: Infra red decoding and re-encoding

2009-08-12 by stevech11

Look in the Projects archive of avrfreaks.net. Among others, the TWIRP project. --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Dave McLaughlin" wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I originally posted this on the Codevision AVR list and then realised it was > not the right place so I searched to find t

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ARV C Training Board

2009-08-11 by u4ia2000

What's the best learning tool for the ARV's both interfacing and learning "C"? I've searched here on a lot of the archives and the internet trying to find the best place to start. I ordered a "Butterfly" and the Butterfly Carrier" and am thinking of ordering an "Atmel AVR C Train

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Infra red decoding and re-encoding

2009-08-11 by Dave McLaughlin

Hi All, I originally posted this on the Codevision AVR list and then realised it was not the right place so I searched to find the best place to post it and found this list instead so I hope it is the correct place to post? I am developing some home automation gear for my apartme

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Re: [AVR-Chat] avrfreaks down?

2009-08-10 by John Samperi

At 12:34 AM 11/08/2009, you wrote: >Just checked, it's up now. C'mon guys, this is a serious matter. Some people's hands are shaking for a fix. :-) Regards John Samperi ******************************************************** Ampertronics Pty. Ltd. 11 Brokenwood Place Baulkham Hi

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Re: [AVR-Chat] avrfreaks down?

2009-08-10 by Zack Widup

Must've used the wrong fuse bit settings! :-) On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Mike Payson wrote: > > > Yep, seems to be down tonight. "Session initialisation failed". > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:15 PM, > > wrote: > > Anyone out there on Sunday nite looking for avrfreaks? > > > >

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Re: [AVR-Chat] avrfreaks down?

2009-08-10 by Jim Wagner

As of 1900 Pacific Daylight Time, Sunday, Freaks has been down at least a couple of hours. Jim Wagner On Aug 9, 2009, at 5:57 PM, John Samperi wrote: > At 10:15 AM 10/08/2009, you wrote: > >Anyone out there on Sunday nite looking for avrfreaks? > > Sunday (Sydney time) it was ext

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Re: [AVR-Chat] avrfreaks down?

2009-08-10 by John Samperi

At 10:15 AM 10/08/2009, you wrote: >Anyone out there on Sunday nite looking for avrfreaks? Sunday (Sydney time) it was extremely slow. This morning before 8:00am (backup time??) it seemed ok, after 8:00am (now) I get "Session initialisation failed " every time I try and log in. R

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Re: [AVR-Chat] avrfreaks down?

2009-08-10 by Mike Payson

Yep, seems to be down tonight. "Session initialisation failed". On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:15 PM, wrote: > Anyone out there on Sunday nite looking for avrfreaks? > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Grou

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avrfreaks down?

2009-08-10 by BobGardner@aol.com

Anyone out there on Sunday nite looking for avrfreaks? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Re: pondering

2009-08-07 by stevech11

But if you're a polite newbie, or a veteran stumped on a problem, it can't be beat. I wish there were an ARMfreaks.net; the Yahoo groups have terrible human factors. www.avrfreaks.net/index.php -- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, David VanHorn wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:04

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: pondering

2009-08-06 by David VanHorn

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Graham Davies wrote: > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Roland Jollivet wrote: > >> Is there any policy on people selling Atmel boards on >> the site? , or trading skills? > > I don't believe a policy has been stated. I thought I just did. :) >Pres

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: pondering

2009-08-06 by David VanHorn

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Roland Jollivet wrote: > Hi > > Ok, all good to know. I was looking through some of the messages, and I see > 'sell' here and there. Is there any policy on people selling Atmel boards on > the site? , or trading skills? Definitely: "Please do"

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: pondering

2009-08-06 by Roland Jollivet

Hi Ok, all good to know. I was looking through some of the messages, and I see 'sell' here and there. Is there any policy on people selling Atmel boards on the site? , or trading skills? Regards Roland 2009/8/6 Graham Davies > > > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com , Roland > Jolliv

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Re: pondering

2009-08-06 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Roland Jollivet wrote: > Is there any policy on people selling Atmel boards on > the site? , or trading skills? I don't believe a policy has been stated. Presumably you mean selling product, not just bits and pieces you no longer want. What has ha

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Re: [AVR-Chat] pondering

2009-08-06 by Zack Widup

It's been kind of quiet lately. Probably people are involved in summer activities. It will get busy again. Zack On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Roland Jollivet wrote: > > > Hi All > > My first post here.......... > > I don't see much activity on this list, maybe one post a week.

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Re: [AVR-Chat] pondering

2009-08-06 by David VanHorn

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Roland Jollivet wrote: > Hi All > > My first post here.......... > > I don't see much activity on this list, maybe one post a week. Is there a > more active AVR list, or is this just a very quiet patch? We've been more active.. Most of us are also

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Re: pondering

2009-08-06 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Roland Jollivet wrote: > I don't see much activity on this list, maybe one post a week. If you look at the home page you'll find the average is much higher than that. It does tend to dip in the summer. > Is there a more active AVR list ... The avr

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[AVR-Chat] pondering

2009-08-06 by Roland Jollivet

Hi All My first post here.......... I don't see much activity on this list, maybe one post a week. Is there a more active AVR list, or is this just a very quiet patch? Regards Roland [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Re: [AVR-Chat] 16f88 vref problem

2009-08-05 by Harkfin Balrog

Depending upon your source, the internal A/D capacitors retain a certain amount of the voltages you are sampling. Try sampling a grounded signal (or the internal ground) before sampling your POT. Yingdan wrote: > > > Hello, > > I am using VREF+ and AVss for a potentiometer. Below

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Re: [AVR-Chat] 16f88 vref problem

2009-08-05 by enkitec@gmail.com

I don't believe you are still using these PIC toys. :-) :-) :-) Yingdan wrote: > Hello, > > I am using VREF+ and AVss for a potentiometer. Below is my setting: > > status_rp = 01 -- select bank 1 > CVRCON = 0b_1110_0110 > ANSEL = 0b_0001_1001 > ADCON1 = 0b_0010_0000 -- VREF+/AVSS

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IAR compiler option

2009-08-05 by Riccardo Castellani

Where can I find info about to set general options in IAR embedded workbench compiler for my Atmega8535 ? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Re: [AVR-Chat] 16f88 vref problem

2009-08-05 by Dao Viet Dung

Why don't you try ATMEGA8. --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Yingdan wrote: From: Yingdan Subject: [AVR-Chat] 16f88 vref problem To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 9:41 AM Hello, I am using VREF+ and AVss for a potentiometer. Below is my setting: status_rp = 01 -- se

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Re: [AVR-Chat] 16f88 vref problem

2009-08-05 by Jim Wagner

This is an AVR group, not PIC. You can try one of the PIC lists for better help. Jim Wagner On Aug 4, 2009, at 7:41 PM, Yingdan wrote: > Hello, > > I am using VREF+ and AVss for a potentiometer. Below is my setting: > > status_rp = 01 -- select bank 1 > CVRCON = 0b_1110_0110 > AN

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Re: [AVR-Chat] 16f88 vref problem

2009-08-05 by John Samperi

At 12:41 PM 5/08/2009, you wrote: >status_rp = 00 -- select bank 0 Ask at microchip.com NOT here, this is an Atmel AVR forum. Regards John Samperi ******************************************************** Ampertronics Pty. Ltd. 11 Brokenwood Place Baulkham Hills, NSW 2153 AUSTRALI

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16f88 vref problem

2009-08-05 by Yingdan

Hello, I am using VREF+ and AVss for a potentiometer. Below is my setting: status_rp = 01 -- select bank 1 CVRCON = 0b_1110_0110 ANSEL = 0b_0001_1001 ADCON1 = 0b_0010_0000 -- VREF+/AVSS status_rp = 00 -- select bank 0 The VREF+ pin gives ~1.2v and I can get the reading 0 - 255 in

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