Re: magazine
2009-12-22 by STEVEN HOLDER
I think it's a great idea. Regards [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: magazine
Re: magazine
2009-12-22 by MoreOrLess
Start small and simple. Solicite support by asking for articles from companies that are in the related field, Spark Fun, Pololu, Arduino, All Electronics. Surely they have projects that could be published in an on-line mag to get the word out and have customers calling them up asking for parts to support the projects by say Spark Fun and others in mag "Support Your AVR Habit". After a short while people here would be calling it "AVR Habit". Have a "AVR Habit" group in Yahoo or may be a domain. AVRHabit.com is available on GoDaddy for $10.69/yr http://www.godaddy.com/domains/searchresults2.aspx?ci=16811 Google done started making a profit because companies were willing to pay them to help those companies get their word out. Publicity. I'm sure the above mentioned companies and others in the back of pubs like Servo, Nuts and Volts, Circuit Cellar and others would give at least a little support. If business picks up you support will pick up. And hopefully they will also be supplying projects/articles that support what they sell. Oh, should the 'Habit' catches on who knows, we have all heard of the "Learn X in y days" or "Z for Dummies". Mike
Re: magazine
2009-12-22 by ecros_technology
--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, David Kelly <dkelly@...> wrote: > > And how does this differ from AVRfreaks? Better signal-to-noise ratio? Graham.
Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: magazine
2009-12-22 by David Kelly
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 04:13:38PM -0000, MoreOrLess wrote: > Start small and simple. Solicite support by asking for articles from > companies that are in the related field, Spark Fun, Pololu, Arduino, > All Electronics. Surely they have projects that could be published in > an on-line mag to get the word out and have customers calling them up > asking for parts to support the projects by say Spark Fun and others > in mag "Support Your AVR Habit". After a short while people here would > be calling it "AVR Habit". Have a "AVR Habit" group in Yahoo or may be > a domain. AVRHabit.com is available on GoDaddy for $10.69/yr > http://www.godaddy.com/domains/searchresults2.aspx?ci=16811 And how does this differ from AVRfreaks? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.
Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: magazine
2009-12-22 by David Kelly
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 05:18:11PM -0000, ecros_technology wrote: > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, David Kelly <dkelly@...> wrote: > > > > And how does this differ from AVRfreaks? > > Better signal-to-noise ratio? That is a worthy goal. I rarely visit AVRfreaks but when looking for something specific. Even then the noise usually drowns the signal. I think many of the readers, and many of the authors such articles as proposed forget that the most value from the story is had from how the plot develops and grows. Figure out where one needs to be. Evaluate the means to that end. Deal with failures and successes, and know the difference between the two. An article on how to build a specific item is a lost opportunity. An article on how to design that item will be useful on many other projects and will not be so specific as to the make and model of CPU. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.
Re: magazine
2009-12-23 by blue_eagle74
What I was looking into is putting a magazine together that included similar information that I see in the many sites I am a member of since none of them have a magazine. I would not use info from the sites but from user submission. Nothing like having something to read while you are on the pot! I still have magazines from 10 years ago! There are many websites out there that can and do contain more information than a magazine can contain. What makes one want a magazine? You can read it anywhere and share it with your friends (no secret, its done). I have been looking into conception to production and it is alot. Keeping the price down without sponsers will be hard for a new magazine. Membership would cover most of the cost. My target is AVR projects, articals(how to), advertisements, Selling and wanted ads(limited), some news, reviews, Q & A, Links to websites and so on. Still doing research, Brian I am not promising nothing yet, just looking into it. --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, David Kelly <dkelly@...> wrote:
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> > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 05:18:11PM -0000, ecros_technology wrote: > > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, David Kelly <dkelly@> wrote: > > > > > > And how does this differ from AVRfreaks? > > > > Better signal-to-noise ratio? > > That is a worthy goal. I rarely visit AVRfreaks but when looking for > something specific. Even then the noise usually drowns the signal. > > I think many of the readers, and many of the authors such articles as > proposed forget that the most value from the story is had from how the > plot develops and grows. Figure out where one needs to be. Evaluate the > means to that end. Deal with failures and successes, and know the > difference between the two. > > An article on how to build a specific item is a lost opportunity. An > article on how to design that item will be useful on many other projects > and will not be so specific as to the make and model of CPU. > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@... > ======================================================================== > Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. >
Re: magazine
2009-12-23 by blue_eagle74
WOW I already have a couple of people emailing me with articals and info for the magazine. Making the first magazine may be easy but keeping up the articals and stuff may be a bit harder. So far I am working on this myself with the help of a couple giving info and website help. Thank you. I am still researching, Brian --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "blue_eagle74" <blue_eagle74@...> wrote:
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> > What I was looking into is putting a magazine together that included similar information that I see in the many sites I am a member of since none of them have a magazine. I would not use info from the sites but from user submission. > > Nothing like having something to read while you are on the pot! I still have magazines from 10 years ago! There are many websites out there that can and do contain more information than a magazine can contain. What makes one want a magazine? You can read it anywhere and share it with your friends (no secret, its done). > > I have been looking into conception to production and it is alot. Keeping the price down without sponsers will be hard for a new magazine. Membership would cover most of the cost. > > My target is AVR projects, articals(how to), advertisements, Selling and wanted ads(limited), some news, reviews, Q & A, Links to websites and so on. > > Still doing research, > Brian > > I am not promising nothing yet, just looking into it. > > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, David Kelly <dkelly@> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 05:18:11PM -0000, ecros_technology wrote: > > > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, David Kelly <dkelly@> wrote: > > > > > > > > And how does this differ from AVRfreaks? > > > > > > Better signal-to-noise ratio? > > > > That is a worthy goal. I rarely visit AVRfreaks but when looking for > > something specific. Even then the noise usually drowns the signal. > > > > I think many of the readers, and many of the authors such articles as > > proposed forget that the most value from the story is had from how the > > plot develops and grows. Figure out where one needs to be. Evaluate the > > means to that end. Deal with failures and successes, and know the > > difference between the two. > > > > An article on how to build a specific item is a lost opportunity. An > > article on how to design that item will be useful on many other projects > > and will not be so specific as to the make and model of CPU. > > > > -- > > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@ > > ======================================================================== > > Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. > > >
Re: magazine
2009-12-23 by blue_eagle74
Every site has their problems. The magazing I am THINKING about doing is not to answer or to correct any problems with other sites but to provide projects and info on avr's. Yes, the websites do this but it is not on paper. That is what I want. It cost money and time and that is why I believe it is not done. It will only survive on subscriptions and the quality of the product. Brian --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Dave McLaughlin" <dave_mclaughlin@...> wrote:
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> > I use AVR FREAKS to get up to date information but the projects section is > severely let down by the lack of actual information for most of them. Quite > a lot of them have no links or actual files available, just a title. > Something the admins where going to try and sort out but sadly has not been > done. > > > > Same with the academy forum. Lots of stuff without information. > > > > Dave. > > > > From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > Of David Kelly > Sent: 22 December 2009 23:29 > To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: magazine > > And how does this differ from AVRfreaks? > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@... <mailto:dkelly%40HiWAAY.net> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
Re: magazine
2009-12-23 by blue_eagle74
LOL I was just informed on my spell checking. The mag will have this in place. Not that it will happen yet. Still looking into it. Brian --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "blue_eagle74" <blue_eagle74@...> wrote:
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> > Every site has their problems. The magazing I am THINKING about doing is not to answer or to correct any problems with other sites but to provide projects and info on avr's. Yes, the websites do this but it is not on paper. That is what I want. It cost money and time and that is why I believe it is not done. > > It will only survive on subscriptions and the quality of the product. > > Brian > > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Dave McLaughlin" <dave_mclaughlin@> wrote: > > > > I use AVR FREAKS to get up to date information but the projects section is > > severely let down by the lack of actual information for most of them. Quite > > a lot of them have no links or actual files available, just a title. > > Something the admins where going to try and sort out but sadly has not been > > done. > > > > > > > > Same with the academy forum. Lots of stuff without information. > > > > > > > > Dave. > > > > > > > > From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > > Of David Kelly > > Sent: 22 December 2009 23:29 > > To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: magazine > > > > And how does this differ from AVRfreaks? > > > > -- > > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@ <mailto:dkelly%40HiWAAY.net> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
Re: magazine
2009-12-23 by blue_eagle74
This brings up a good point. I am think of making a first mag online as a PDF to get user feedback and quality. That way you dont lose out on money and no money is spent on printing and shipping. Time to look for sponsership, Brian --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Dave McLaughlin" <dave_mclaughlin@...> wrote:
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> > Hi Brian, > I would be very interested in a subscription if the quality was good. I > currently get Elektor as the only magazine subscription at present. > The price would have to be right of course :o) > I am based out here in Indonesia so I end up having to pay for extra on > shipping but as long as this is reasonable, I am happy to do so. > Dave.
RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: magazine
2009-12-23 by Dave McLaughlin
I use AVR FREAKS to get up to date information but the projects section is severely let down by the lack of actual information for most of them. Quite a lot of them have no links or actual files available, just a title. Something the admins where going to try and sort out but sadly has not been done. Same with the academy forum. Lots of stuff without information. Dave.
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From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Kelly Sent: 22 December 2009 23:29 To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: magazine And how does this differ from AVRfreaks? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net <mailto:dkelly%40HiWAAY.net> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: magazine
2009-12-23 by Dave McLaughlin
Hi Brian, I would be very interested in a subscription if the quality was good. I currently get Elektor as the only magazine subscription at present. The price would have to be right of course :o) I am based out here in Indonesia so I end up having to pay for extra on shipping but as long as this is reasonable, I am happy to do so. Dave.
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From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of blue_eagle74 Sent: 23 December 2009 10:57 To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: magazine Every site has their problems. The magazing I am THINKING about doing is not to answer or to correct any problems with other sites but to provide projects and info on avr's. Yes, the websites do this but it is not on paper. That is what I want. It cost money and time and that is why I believe it is not done. It will only survive on subscriptions and the quality of the product. Brian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: magazine
2009-12-23 by Andrew Mathison
Dear Dave McLaughlin I get my EPE as an electronic download on or around the 15th of the month, far far cheaper.....and far far quicker if you live a long way out!! I do believe that Elektor does the same, though I have not checked.... Regards Andy ------------------------------------------------------- Hi Brian, I would be very interested in a subscription if the quality was good. I currently get Elektor as the only magazine subscription at present. The price would have to be right of course :o) I am based out here in Indonesia so I end up having to pay for extra on shipping but as long as this is reasonable, I am happy to do so. Dave.
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From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of blue_eagle74 Sent: 23 December 2009 10:57 To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: magazine Every site has their problems. The magazing I am THINKING about doing is not to answer or to correct any problems with other sites but to provide projects and info on avr's. Yes, the websites do this but it is not on paper. That is what I want. It cost money and time and that is why I believe it is not done. It will only survive on subscriptions and the quality of the product. Brian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]