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Hello

2001-04-06 by Kenji

Hello everyone.  I just joined the group.  I own a CZ101.  Some CZ101 and
CZ1000 users might be familiar with the patches I uploaded to the old "Temple
of CZ" web site.

To be honest I have a K5000 now and haven't used my CZ101 in a while, but I
will probably pull the old fellow out in a bit and start using it again because
I really like how it sounds.

Also, regarding manuals - a few years ago I emailed Casio about the CZ101
asking if there was any way to obtain a manual.  They were nice enough to offer
to ship me a photocopy of the CZ101 manual for free.  I don't know if they
still do it, but it's worth a try.

Kenji


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Re: [CZsynth] Hello

2001-04-07 by Summa

Hi Kenji,

it seems CZ user or former CZ user seem to be potential K5K buyer ;)  

Btw. how long does it take until you got that manual? I'm contacted Casio
some time ago and still waiting for a VZ-1 manual. They at least wanted to
send me a snailmail to let me know wether they can or can't provide me with one.

Summa

At 11:38 06.04.01 -0700, you wrote:
>Hello everyone.  I just joined the group.  I own a CZ101.  Some CZ101 and
>CZ1000 users might be familiar with the patches I uploaded to the old "Temple
>of CZ" web site.
>
>To be honest I have a K5000 now and haven't used my CZ101 in a while, but I
>will probably pull the old fellow out in a bit and start using it again because
>I really like how it sounds.
>
>Also, regarding manuals - a few years ago I emailed Casio about the CZ101
>asking if there was any way to obtain a manual.  They were nice enough to offer
>to ship me a photocopy of the CZ101 manual for free.  I don't know if they
>still do it, but it's worth a try.
>
>Kenji
>
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Re: Hello

2001-04-07 by Kenji

>    From: Summa <flotorian@...>
> Subject: Re: Hello
> 
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> 
> Btw. how long does it take until you got that manual?

I don't remember.  It was several years ago.

Kenji




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Re: Hello

2001-04-10 by psychotropicsounds@hotmail.com

--- In CZsynth@y..., Kenji <kenjib@r...> wrote:
> Hello everyone.  I just joined the group.  I own a CZ101.  Some 
CZ101 and CZ1000 users might be familiar with the patches I uploaded 
to the old "Temple of CZ" web site. To be honest I have a K5000 now 
and haven't used my CZ101 in a while, but I will probably pull the 
old fellow out in a bit and start using it again because I really 
like how it sounds.


Hi Kenji

I recently got a CZ3000 and I also really like its sound. It has a 
certain quality (or as some may say- lack of quality!) that is hard 
to duplicate in other synths....I'm hoping it will be around for a 
long time to come, even though like yourself, I have other synths to 
play around with. Do you have any programming tips or patches you 
could share with us here? Also: What sort of sounds do you use it for?

Thanks 
Adam

Hello

2004-03-18 by hairyway

Hello, just a little hello from a new member, thanks for welcoming me.
Greetings

Hello

2004-05-24 by Dr.Ambient

Hi group,

Thought I'd say hello, just joined this group, as I "inherited" a CZ5000 today!
Got it as a gift, actually, and I really like it.
Only thing is: it came without a manual.
Now, the synth itself is pretty easy to program, but the sequencer is 
mystery to me. I can't get it to record anything.
Since there was no CZ5000 manual, I downloaded the CZ3000 one from the 
filesection, but that one doesn't help on the sequencer part.
Any tips?

Best Regards,
Dr. Ambient

PS: AlgoMusic.nl is the home of PhadiZ, a freeware PD VSTi for Windows. See 
link below.

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Re: Hello

2004-05-29 by teslakit

HI--Search in the archive for the forum under CZ 500 sequencer--the
instructions are there. They worked for me! 
teslakit



--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Dr.Ambient" <g.goebertus@c...> wrote:
> Hi group,
> 
> Thought I'd say hello, just joined this group, as I "inherited" a
CZ5000 today!
> Got it as a gift, actually, and I really like it.
> Only thing is: it came without a manual.
> Now, the synth itself is pretty easy to program, but the sequencer is 
> mystery to me. I can't get it to record anything.
> Since there was no CZ5000 manual, I downloaded the CZ3000 one from the 
> filesection, but that one doesn't help on the sequencer part.
> Any tips?
> 
> Best Regards,
> Dr. Ambient
> 
> PS: AlgoMusic.nl is the home of PhadiZ, a freeware PD VSTi for
Windows. See 
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Re: Hello

2004-05-30 by steve_the_composer

The CZ-3000 doesn't have the sequencer hardware (ie buttons) of the 
CZ-5000.  I seem to recall seeing a stand alone sequencer mentioned 
somewhere.  Perhaps its the RZ-1.  Maybe there is a *.pdf for that.

I don't have time to scan the CZ-5000 manual (unless you wanna pay me 
to make a hard copy at Staples or Office Max).

I can look a question or two up for you.

The recorder has two record modes:  real and step-time.  It is fairly 
intuitive from the buttons, except how to go into record mode.  I 
seem to recall looking that up for someone previously.  I will check 
the archives.

Hope this helps.

Dr. Steve



--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Dr.Ambient" <g.goebertus@c...> wrote:
> Hi group,
> 
> Thought I'd say hello, just joined this group, as I "inherited" a 
CZ5000 today!
> Got it as a gift, actually, and I really like it.
> Only thing is: it came without a manual.
> Now, the synth itself is pretty easy to program, but the sequencer 
is 
> mystery to me. I can't get it to record anything.
> Since there was no CZ5000 manual, I downloaded the CZ3000 one from 
the 
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> filesection, but that one doesn't help on the sequencer part.
> Any tips?
> 
> Best Regards,
> Dr. Ambient

Re: [CZsynth] Re: Hello

2004-05-30 by Simon Beck

The sequencer was the SZ-1 (the RZ was the innovative and often-overlooked sampling drum machine).

Simon Beck
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  Subject: [CZsynth] Re: Hello


  The CZ-3000 doesn't have the sequencer hardware (ie buttons) of the 
  CZ-5000.  I seem to recall seeing a stand alone sequencer mentioned 
  somewhere.  Perhaps its the RZ-1.  Maybe there is a *.pdf for that.

  I don't have time to scan the CZ-5000 manual (unless you wanna pay me 
  to make a hard copy at Staples or Office Max).

  I can look a question or two up for you.

  The recorder has two record modes:  real and step-time.  It is fairly 
  intuitive from the buttons, except how to go into record mode.  I 
  seem to recall looking that up for someone previously.  I will check 
  the archives.

  Hope this helps.

  Dr. Steve



  --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Dr.Ambient" <g.goebertus@c...> wrote:
  > Hi group,
  > 
  > Thought I'd say hello, just joined this group, as I "inherited" a 
  CZ5000 today!
  > Got it as a gift, actually, and I really like it.
  > Only thing is: it came without a manual.
  > Now, the synth itself is pretty easy to program, but the sequencer 
  is 
  > mystery to me. I can't get it to record anything.
  > Since there was no CZ5000 manual, I downloaded the CZ3000 one from 
  the 
  > filesection, but that one doesn't help on the sequencer part.
  > Any tips?
  > 
  > Best Regards,
  > Dr. Ambient



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Re: [CZsynth] Hello

2004-05-30 by Dr.Ambient

Hi,

Thanks for the tip!

>HI--Search in the archive for the forum under CZ 500 sequencer--the
>instructions are there. They worked for me!
>teslakit


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RZ-1 v. SZ-1

2004-05-30 by steve_the_composer

--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Simon Beck" <simon@a...> wrote:
> The sequencer was the SZ-1 (the RZ was the innovative and
> often-overlooked sampling drum machine).
> 
> Simon Beck


Thanks for the correction.  I have renamed the subject so it will pop 
up when people search the archives.

Decades ago (late 1980's) I was at the home of an aquaintance who had 
the Casio drum sampler.  We played with it.  That's the last I ever 
saw one.

Re: Casio RZ-1 Drum Machine (was: RZ-1 v. SZ-1)

2004-06-01 by Catilyne

At 06:55 PM 5/30/2004, steve_the_composer wrote:
>--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Simon Beck" <simon@a...> wrote:
> > The sequencer was the SZ-1 (the RZ was the innovative and
> > often-overlooked sampling drum machine).
>
>Decades ago (late 1980's) I was at the home of an aquaintance who had
>the Casio drum sampler.  We played with it.  That's the last I ever
>saw one.

Likewise, back in the mid-'80's there was a buddy of my band's who owned a 
music store.  When the RZ-1 was first released, he let us have one on loan 
for about a week to see what we thought of it.  Since I'd done quite a bit 
of drum machine programming up to then, I spent most of that time running 
it through the paces.

I don't remember a whole lot about it, but this is what little I can 
recall: the programming interface seemed a bit iffy for that period.  I was 
used to the Roland "TR" series programming interface (sixteen physical 
buttons each representing steps in the bar), and the RZ-1's interface 
seemed like a kludgy method of representing that same method on an LCD 
screen.  Then again, I wasn't too impressed when Roland themselves did the 
same on the later Dr. Rhythms & the R-8, so that could just be me.

Soundwise, I remember the ROM drums reminded me quite a bit of the 707 
soundset -- which is not necessarily a bad thing.  (I still think the 
TR-707 is underrated for some applications.  After all, the majority of the 
drums for Big Black were done on a 707, and that's some of the kewlest 
hardcore ever produced.)  The RZ-1's coolest feature, unfortunately, was 
also the biggest disappointment: the sample banks.  There were four slots 
into which you could sample your own sounds.  That was a pretty kickass 
concept for those days.

The implementation of the sampling feature was a little less than 
impressive.  First, IIRC, the max sample rate was only like 22k, so it 
didn't work too well with most of the percussion or SFX sounds you were 
likely to add yourself.  A good deal of your high end was 
crippled.  Second, all four slots drew from the same pool of RAM (again, 
not a bad thing in itself; dynamic RAM allocation was actually pretty cool 
for that time).  The "gotcha" here was that Casio scrimped on the amount of 
available RAM in the box.  There was barely enough with which to do 
anything -- even for drum sounds, which are on average pretty short.

Obviously, one of the things that sampling drum machines are good for is 
being able to replace some of the less desirable sounds from the ROM 
chip.  And typically the worst offenders in this belong to the cymbal and 
percussion families.  On the RZ-1, however, It was entirely possible to eat 
up all your available memory with a single crash or ride, and have no 
memory left to use in your other three slots.  My pet peeve with drum 
machines were always the hats, so I worked on sampling a 
replacement.  After filling two slots with merely a closed and open hi-hat, 
I'd already depleted the available sample memory -- that's how little there 
was.

Finally, I don't remember there being any facility for saving those sampled 
sounds (although I could be wrong here).  This means that whatever work 
you'd done on your replacement sounds would be lost the moment that your 
battery died.  Don't even consider what would happen if you wanted to 
replace those already-sampled sounds with *other* drum sounds.

Overall, the machine was an excellent concept.  However, the implementation 
really crippled what the RZ-1 could have been, IMNSHO.

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