CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z
2004-10-08 by sertaccaliskan
Hi.I Play macedonia,serbia and bosnia music.Do you know their music styles? Generally Uses Casio CZ , Yamaha DX sounds.is yamaha TX81Z smilar casio CZ101 or no ? Thanks...
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CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z
Re: [CZsynth] CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z
2004-10-09 by Summa
The TX81z is rather a downsized version of the DX7... On 8 Oct 2004 at 21:33, sertaccaliskan wrote: > > > > Hi.I Play macedonia,serbia and bosnia music.Do you know their music > styles? Generally Uses Casio CZ , Yamaha DX sounds.is yamaha TX81Z > smilar casio CZ101 or no ? Thanks... > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register > anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/QnLolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~- > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- CZ/VZ mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth FMHeaven mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fmheaven/ FS1R mailing list : http://www.ampfea.org/mailman/listinfo/fss-list Vokator mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vokator Wellenform Chat So and Do 22.00 CET: http://chat.moogulator.com/
Re: [CZsynth] CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z
2004-10-09 by Ricardo Gabriel
Not downsized, but different. The TX81Z has 8 waveforms, and the DX-7 has only one. But the TX81Z has 8 algorithms, the DX-7 has 32. ----- Original Message -----
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From: "Summa" <flotorian@...> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [CZsynth] CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z > > The TX81z is rather a downsized version of the DX7... > > On 8 Oct 2004 at 21:33, sertaccaliskan wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi.I Play macedonia,serbia and bosnia music.Do you know their music > > styles? Generally Uses Casio CZ , Yamaha DX sounds.is yamaha TX81Z > > smilar casio CZ101 or no ? Thanks... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > --------------------~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register > > anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/QnLolB/TM > > --------------------------------------------------------------------~- > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > CZ/VZ mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth > FMHeaven mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fmheaven/ > FS1R mailing list : http://www.ampfea.org/mailman/listinfo/fss-list > Vokator mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vokator > > > Wellenform Chat So and Do 22.00 CET: http://chat.moogulator.com/ > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
Re: [CZsynth] CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z
2004-10-09 by Daniel Araujo
The TX81z has similar sounds to the DX7, but I often hear the DX7 sounds warmer, which I, being a former owner of both, agree. This is apparently due to the 4-operator (oscillators?) architecture of the TX81z, while the DX7 has 6 operators (per voice). If you want to warm it up a bit you can always add some chorus or OD/distortion to it. Also, the TX81z has 8-voice polyphony and it's a module, a keyless version of the DX11. According to vintagesynth.com, the sounds of the CZ series are very similar to those on the DX line. (I never really played a CZ, only heard some samples. I'll eventually buy one of those cute CZ101's, hehehe) Daniel Ricardo Gabriel wrote:
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>Not downsized, but different. The TX81Z has 8 waveforms, and the DX-7 has >only one. But the TX81Z has 8 algorithms, the DX-7 has 32. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Summa" <flotorian@...> >To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:00 PM >Subject: Re: [CZsynth] CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z > > > >>The TX81z is rather a downsized version of the DX7... >> >>On 8 Oct 2004 at 21:33, sertaccaliskan wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi.I Play macedonia,serbia and bosnia music.Do you know their music >>>styles? Generally Uses Casio CZ , Yamaha DX sounds.is yamaha TX81Z >>>smilar casio CZ101 or no ? Thanks... >>>
Re: [CZsynth] CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z
2004-10-09 by Summa
Hi Daniel, compared the DX7 (in my case a TX802) the TX81z sounds a bit thinner, is having less punch even when using about the same settings with the same amount of operators. Even so both synthesizers use phase modulation (but Yamaha called it FM and Casio Phase Distortion), a CZ sounds substantially different. I bought the CZ-1 1986 while I got the TX81z in 1987 and in the mix I'm always able to tell them apart. Same technique, different implementation and different features, not all subtractive synths sound the same as well. The Casio VZ is closer to the DX7 architecture wise, but sound wise it's still it's like comparing a Moog to an Oberheim... ;) ...Summa On 9 Oct 2004 at 5:13, Daniel Araujo wrote: > > > The TX81z has similar sounds to the DX7, but I often hear the DX7 > sounds warmer, which I, being a former owner of both, agree. This is > apparently due to the 4-operator (oscillators?) architecture of the > TX81z, while the DX7 has 6 operators (per voice). If you want to warm > it up a bit you can always add some chorus or OD/distortion to it. > Also, the TX81z has 8-voice polyphony and it's a module, a keyless > version of the DX11. According to vintagesynth.com, the sounds of the > CZ series are very similar to those on the DX line. (I never really > played a CZ, only heard some samples. I'll eventually buy one of those > cute CZ101's, hehehe) > > Daniel > > > Ricardo Gabriel wrote: > > >Not downsized, but different. The TX81Z has 8 waveforms, and the DX-7 > >has only one. But the TX81Z has 8 algorithms, the DX-7 has 32. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Summa" <flotorian@...> > >To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> > >Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:00 PM > >Subject: Re: [CZsynth] CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z > > > > > > > >>The TX81z is rather a downsized version of the DX7... > >> > >>On 8 Oct 2004 at 21:33, sertaccaliskan wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Hi.I Play macedonia,serbia and bosnia music.Do you know their music > >>>styles? Generally Uses Casio CZ , Yamaha DX sounds.is yamaha TX81Z > >>>smilar casio CZ101 or no ? Thanks... > >>> > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! > Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/QnLolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~- > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- CZ/VZ mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth FMHeaven mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fmheaven/ FS1R mailing list : http://www.ampfea.org/mailman/listinfo/fss-list Vokator mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vokator Wellenform Chat So and Do 22.00 CET: http://chat.moogulator.com/
Re: CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z
2004-10-09 by sertaccaliskan
I want to play macedonia,bosnia and bulgarian music.I want to buy Casio CZ101.And then I want to buy Yamaha DX ...But I find Yamaha TX-81Z.Yamaha TX-81Z good or unnecessary? And Casio CZ101 sufficient or insufficient? I think so The balkan style bagpipe, organ , and other digital sounds.. Thanks... Sertac
RE: [CZsynth] Re: CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z
2004-10-09 by Scott Nordlund
>I want to play macedonia,bosnia and bulgarian music.I want to buy >Casio CZ101.And then I want to buy Yamaha DX ...But I find >Yamaha TX-81Z.Yamaha TX-81Z good or unnecessary? And Casio CZ101 >sufficient or insufficient? >I think so The balkan style bagpipe, organ , and other digital >sounds.. >Thanks... >Sertac They will probably both be okay, though you may want to look for a TX802 and Casio CZ-1 as alternatives if you can find/afford them. They are a bit more advanced, and sound nicer. _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee\ufffd Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z
2004-10-09 by texhand
--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@h...> wrote: I wonder if anyone has ever nailed a bagpipe patch? > >I want to play macedonia,bosnia and bulgarian music.I want to buy > >Casio CZ101.And then I want to buy Yamaha DX ...But I find > >Yamaha TX-81Z.Yamaha TX-81Z good or unnecessary? And Casio CZ101 > >sufficient or insufficient? > >I think so The balkan style bagpipe, organ , and other digital > >sounds.. > >Thanks... > >Sertac > > They will probably both be okay, though you may want to look for a TX802 and > Casio CZ-1 as alternatives if you can find/afford them. They are a bit more
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Re: [CZsynth] Re: CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z
2004-10-09 by Simon Beck
With all due respect, the CZ-1 sounds identical to the CZ-101 (I have owned both). The difference lies in the power and size of the instruments - the CZ-1 has a full-size, 5-octave keyboard, twice the polyphony and sustain and volume pedal facilities. The only differences which might affect the sound are a variable modulation wheel, velocity and after-touch and an on-board chorus effect. Simon Beck London, UK
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@...> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 7:05 PM Subject: RE: [CZsynth] Re: CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z > > >I want to play macedonia,bosnia and bulgarian music.I want to buy > >Casio CZ101.And then I want to buy Yamaha DX ...But I find > >Yamaha TX-81Z.Yamaha TX-81Z good or unnecessary? And Casio CZ101 > >sufficient or insufficient? > >I think so The balkan style bagpipe, organ , and other digital > >sounds.. > >Thanks... > >Sertac > > They will probably both be okay, though you may want to look for a TX802 and > Casio CZ-1 as alternatives if you can find/afford them. They are a bit more > advanced, and sound nicer. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee\ufffd > Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.771 / Virus Database: 518 - Release Date: 28-Sep-04
Re: [CZsynth] Re: CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z
2004-10-09 by Simon Beck
I'm not sure what Balkan bagpipes sound like, but I have a pretty good CZ Crumhorn patch which I'll upload as a PDF some time. Simon
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Subject: [CZsynth] Re: CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z
--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@h...> wrote:
I wonder if anyone has ever nailed a bagpipe patch?
> >I want to play macedonia,bosnia and bulgarian music.I want to buy
> >Casio CZ101.And then I want to buy Yamaha DX ...But I find
> >Yamaha TX-81Z.Yamaha TX-81Z good or unnecessary? And Casio CZ101
> >sufficient or insufficient?
> >I think so The balkan style bagpipe, organ , and other digital
> >sounds..
> >Thanks...
> >Sertac
>
> They will probably both be okay, though you may want to look for a
TX802 and
> Casio CZ-1 as alternatives if you can find/afford them. They are a
bit more
> advanced, and sound nicer.
>
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2004-10-09 by matucana
Hi, > I want to play macedonia,bosnia and bulgarian music.I want to buy > Casio CZ101.And then I want to buy Yamaha DX ...But I find > Yamaha TX-81Z.Yamaha TX-81Z good or unnecessary? the avantage of a TX81Z is that it is capable of different (microtonal) scales. so if you local music has to be played with different scales than the "normal" western mean tone. the TX is for you, NOT the cz. hellmuth
Re: [CZsynth] Re: CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z
2004-10-10 by Scott Nordlund
>With all due respect, the CZ-1 sounds identical to the CZ-101 (I have owned >both). The difference lies in the power and size of the instruments - the >CZ-1 has a full-size, 5-octave keyboard, twice the polyphony and sustain >and >volume pedal facilities. The only differences which might affect the sound >are a variable modulation wheel, velocity and after-touch and an on-board >chorus effect. That's actually what I meant. Sorry if it wasn't clear. _________________________________________________________________ Don\ufffdt just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z
2004-10-11 by texhand
--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Simon Beck" <simon@a...> wrote: I am not sure what a crumhorn sounds like. The reeds are interesting. Don't have many of those sounds. > I'm not sure what Balkan bagpipes sound like, but I have a pretty good CZ Crumhorn patch which I'll upload as a PDF some time. > > Simon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: texhand > To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 7:59 PM > Subject: [CZsynth] Re: CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Nordlund" <gsn10@h...> wrote: > I wonder if anyone has ever nailed a bagpipe patch? > > > > > > > > > > >I want to play macedonia,bosnia and bulgarian music.I want to buy > > >Casio CZ101.And then I want to buy Yamaha DX ...But I find > > >Yamaha TX-81Z.Yamaha TX-81Z good or unnecessary? And Casio CZ101 > > >sufficient or insufficient? > > >I think so The balkan style bagpipe, organ , and other digital > > >sounds.. > > >Thanks... > > >Sertac > > > > They will probably both be okay, though you may want to look for a > TX802 and > > Casio CZ-1 as alternatives if you can find/afford them. They are a > bit more > > advanced, and sound nicer. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® > > Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth/ > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > CZsynth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Re: [CZsynth] Re: CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z
2004-10-11 by Simon Beck
A Crumhorn has a wonderfully buzzy yet musical sound. Imagine a completely untamed bassoon playing in its upper register, or maybe an oboe played through a fuzzbox. A consort of Crumhorns (soprano, alto, tenor and bass) being played together makes a really nice sound, and one which the CZ can emulate quite well. Simon
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Subject: [CZsynth] Re: CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z
--- In CZsynth@...m, "Simon Beck" <simon@a...> wrote:
I am not sure what a crumhorn sounds like. The reeds are interesting.
Don't have many of those sounds.
> I'm not sure what Balkan bagpipes sound like, but I have a pretty
good CZ Crumhorn patch which I'll upload as a PDF some time.
>
> Simon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: texhand
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
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> Subject: [CZsynth] Re: CZ101 and YAMAHA TX-81Z
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> > >sufficient or insufficient?
> > >I think so The balkan style bagpipe, organ , and other digital
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> > >Thanks...
> > >Sertac
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> > They will probably both be okay, though you may want to look for a
> TX802 and
> > Casio CZ-1 as alternatives if you can find/afford them. They are a
> bit more
> > advanced, and sound nicer.
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