Casio CZ/ VZ/ FZ - Pro Series

Hi folks,
I'm new to the list.  I usually use analogue synths (jupiter 8, sh1,
doepfer) but recently have been very interested in digital synthesis
(tz81z, k1, and now vz8m).  I'm not sure why, but I do like what I hear.

I can't seem to get my Vz8m to work with unisyn.  NOthing happens when
I manipulate unisyn.  Am I doing somehting wrong, or is this not going
to work?

If this is the case, is the vz10 easier to edit from the front panel?

Thanks,
Royce

I have never used Unisyn. Did you check out their website to see if 
your version supports the VZ-8m? 

According to the chart at 
http://www.motu.com/products/software/unisyn/profiles.html/en

the vz-8m is supported.

Are you getting error messages on the VZ-8m?

If so, that will be a clue to what you may have to change on the VZ. 
On the VZ-8m after powerup you need to make sure in TOTAL CONTROL 
(1) MIDI DATA EXCLUSIVE = ENA and (2) MEM PROTECT INTERNAL = OFF. 

For bulk sysex transfers of patches, your VZ channel and your sysex 
channel must be the same.  So if Unisyn lets you set the channel for 
communication with the VZ, make sure it is the same as the unit 
itself. 

Also, for the bulk sysex data transfers, data type needs to be 
specified.

Hope this helps.

--Steve
 
Steve's Guide to VZ-8m error messages:

Message: --TRANS ERROR--- | CHECK SYSTEM!
Problem: Data channel <> VZ receive channel
Solution: Change VZ channel to match sysex file data.

Message: --MIDI ERROR--- | RECEIVE ERROR
Problem: Data type transmitted <> Data type expected
Solution: Select proper data type when loading data type into VZ.


--- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "rrooyyccee" <rrooyyccee@y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi folks,
> I'm new to the list.  I usually use analogue synths (jupiter 8, 
sh1,
> doepfer) but recently have been very interested in digital 
synthesis
> (tz81z, k1, and now vz8m).  I'm not sure why, but I do like what I 
hear.
> 
> I can't seem to get my Vz8m to work with unisyn.  NOthing happens 
when
> I manipulate unisyn.  Am I doing somehting wrong, or is this not 
going
> to work?
> 
> If this is the case, is the vz10 easier to edit from the front 
panel?

> 
> Thanks,
> Royce

hi royce

in addition to what others have said, i seem to remember, from a demo 
version of some other editor software, that the vz-8m came in a couple 
of versions, the earlier ones of which had a less cooperative chip that 
would not work so well with midi-based editors.  it was an irritation 
to me, since mine is definitely of that generation.

bah!

dominic

ps: jsynthlib works quite well with the tx81z if you have one of those, 
which i do.  could you let us know how well unisyn works with the 
tx81z, since i'm thinking of getting it?


On 29 Jan 2005, at 19:28, rrooyyccee wrote:

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>  (tz81z, k1, and now vz8m).� I'm not sure why, but I do like what I 
> hear.
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>  I can't seem to get my Vz8m to work with unisyn.� NOthing happens when
>  I manipulate unisyn.� Am I doing somehting wrong, or is this not going
>  to work?
>
>  If this is the case, is the vz10 easier to edit from the front panel?
>
>  Thanks,
>  Royce
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Thanks for the advice.  Problem solved.  I'll try my hand at vz
synthesis tonight.  Its great that the ez vz pdf is available.  this
group rocks.

royce

- could you let us know how well unisyn works with the 

Hi,
Unisyn on a Mac Os9 is working fine with the tx81z, k1, and now the
vz8m. I haven't used all of the editing functions, but everything so
far is a-ok, once I enabled Sysex on the vz8.  All three of these
synths sound somewhat different.  I'd be curious someday to hear a
casio CZ, but I think that would be overkill in the cheap digital
synth domain.  I used to have an sy77, which also had a "cheap" fm
sound, and a very nasty bandpass filter that howled in a musical way.
 I had and sold an fs1r, which had a good sound but I found that the
sounds I liked the most on the fs1r were relatively primitive
tz81z-like sounds, while the more elaborate and polished sounds didn't
do it for me. . . a bit too smooth or something. so far the vz is
keeping my interest, alhtough my efforts so far have been random
creations of wierd ring modulating stuff.  

royce