CZ Bank Dump
2011-07-26 by Mike
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2011-07-26 by Mike
Hello all, I have a CZ-3000 and I wanted to know if I can dump the whole bank instead of single patches. Is there a SYSex command that would allow me to dump the whole sound bank and not just a single patch? Thanks in advance Mike
2011-07-26 by Alfons Martinez
Hello Mike: I have a CZ5000 and some time ago I tried to do the same, with no success. Thanks to the good and detailed help from several people in the group, I managed to send sysex messages (with Midi-Ox) for dumping each patch (message F0 44 00 00 70 10 XX 70 31 F7, where XX is the patch number, range 20-3F). The sysex obtained from that dump cannot be directly re-sent to the CZ5000 to re-load the patch. It is necessary to change the value of the fifth hex value (from 30 to 20 XX, where XX is again the patch number). Knowing this, the only thing I could achieve was to "concatenate" the 32 individual sysex (1 for each patch) in a 4 big sysex (1 for each bank). This way, at least I can load into the CZ5000 (not save to computer) the complete banks in one operation. It is basically a question of copy&paste, but it worked for me. Of course, if you change one patch in the CZ5000, you have to save it and copy&paste again in its correponding the "big sysex". It is not nice, but I just really wanted a backup dump, as I am not programming new sounds normally. I did the tedious copy&paste operation directly with Midi-Ox, that probably is not the better program for that, but I do not know too much about editing sysex files. Hope it helps a little. Alfons _____ De: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com] En nombre de Mike Enviado el: martes, 26 de julio de 2011 14:51 Para: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com Asunto: [CZsynth] CZ Bank Dump Hello all, I have a CZ-3000 and I wanted to know if I can dump the whole bank instead of single patches. Is there a SYSex command that would allow me to dump the whole sound bank and not just a single patch? Thanks in advance Mike [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2011-07-26 by Mike
Thanks for the reply. That worked. If I figure out how to do the Bulk Dump I'll post it. --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Alfons Martinez" <alfons-martinez@...> wrote:
> > Hello Mike: > > > > I have a CZ5000 and some time ago I tried to do the same, with no success. > > Thanks to the good and detailed help from several people in the group, I > managed to send sysex messages (with Midi-Ox) for dumping each patch > (message F0 44 00 00 70 10 XX 70 31 F7, where XX is the patch number, range > 20-3F). > > The sysex obtained from that dump cannot be directly re-sent to the CZ5000 > to re-load the patch. It is necessary to change the value of the fifth hex > value (from 30 to 20 XX, where XX is again the patch number). > > > > Knowing this, the only thing I could achieve was to "concatenate" the 32 > individual sysex (1 for each patch) in a 4 big sysex (1 for each bank). This > way, at least I can load into the CZ5000 (not save to computer) the complete > banks in one operation. > > It is basically a question of copy&paste, but it worked for me. Of course, > if you change one patch in the CZ5000, you have to save it and copy&paste > again in its correponding the "big sysex". > > It is not nice, but I just really wanted a backup dump, as I am not > programming new sounds normally. > > I did the tedious copy&paste operation directly with Midi-Ox, that probably > is not the better program for that, but I do not know too much about editing > sysex files. > > > > Hope it helps a little. > > > > Alfons > > > > > > > > _____ > > De: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com] En nombre de > Mike > Enviado el: martes, 26 de julio de 2011 14:51 > Para: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com > Asunto: [CZsynth] CZ Bank Dump > > > > > > Hello all, I have a CZ-3000 and I wanted to know if I can dump the whole > bank instead of single patches. Is there a SYSex command that would allow me > to dump the whole sound bank and not just a single patch? > Thanks in advance > Mike > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2011-07-27 by Lee Borrell
To my knowledge that is the only way to do it - I picked up the CZ info some time ago - but as yet have not found a complete dump mechanism - the details I have are at: http://templarseries.atspace.com/cz.html under "defeating handshaking". LEE --- On Tue, 26/7/11, Alfons Martinez <alfons-martinez@telefonica.net> wrote:
From: Alfons Martinez <alfons-martinez@telefonica.net>
Subject: RE: [CZsynth] CZ Bank Dump
To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 26 July, 2011, 19:28
Hello Mike:
I have a CZ5000 and some time ago I tried to do the same, with no success.
Thanks to the good and detailed help from several people in the group, I
managed to send sysex messages (with Midi-Ox) for dumping each patch
(message F0 44 00 00 70 10 XX 70 31 F7, where XX is the patch number, range
20-3F).
The sysex obtained from that dump cannot be directly re-sent to the CZ5000
to re-load the patch. It is necessary to change the value of the fifth hex
value (from 30 to 20 XX, where XX is again the patch number).
Knowing this, the only thing I could achieve was to "concatenate" the 32
individual sysex (1 for each patch) in a 4 big sysex (1 for each bank). This
way, at least I can load into the CZ5000 (not save to computer) the complete
banks in one operation.
It is basically a question of copy&paste, but it worked for me. Of course,
if you change one patch in the CZ5000, you have to save it and copy&paste
again in its correponding the "big sysex".
It is not nice, but I just really wanted a backup dump, as I am not
programming new sounds normally.
I did the tedious copy&paste operation directly with Midi-Ox, that probably
is not the better program for that, but I do not know too much about editing
sysex files.
Hope it helps a little.
Alfons
_____
De: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CZsynth@yahoogroups.com] En nombre de
Mike
Enviado el: martes, 26 de julio de 2011 14:51
Para: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: [CZsynth] CZ Bank Dump
Hello all, I have a CZ-3000 and I wanted to know if I can dump the whole
bank instead of single patches. Is there a SYSex command that would allow me
to dump the whole sound bank and not just a single patch?
Thanks in advance
Mike
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