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Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

2003-01-28 by Ravi Sharma

This is the subject of one of my requests to Dave in a new O.S. mainly a 
pattern select mode that incorporates a rule that the switch will happen 
upon the end of the currenty playing sequence and then move and continue 
without losing a beat, true groovebox style. Let's hope it happens. No idea 
though.

Ravi






>From: "Simon  <bontrip@...>" <bontrip@...>
>Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?
>Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 00:22:54 -0000
>
>Well there just no easy way to work with the Evolver for Live use.
>The fact that you can't change programs without resetting
>the pattern is really really anoying and disapointing. I thought i
>could use a Korg ES-1 as the master since the Electribe change
>to the next program only when the pattern has finish playing.
>Bummer, the
>Evolver  DOES NOT wait, it changes as soon as you change
>program on the ES-1.
>
>If anyone has find a way to achieve a smooth pattern change,
>please let me know cause i'm losing it here.
>
>Simonvolt
>


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Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

2003-01-28 by simon leclerc

I also requested this feature to Dave a few weeks ago.
I thought someone might have a workaround, i guess not.
I just don't see the point of having a sequencer
with 372 possible patterns if you can't jump from one
pattern to another, spacially when the designer is Mr Dave Smith
himself.  And now my last hope for a workaround (korg Es-1 as master)
has failed. You know i can live with the fact that it can't control
other Midi devices, but i can't live with this limitation.
This is bad man.



on 27/01/03 9:00 PM, Ravi Sharma at noision1@... wrote:

This is the subject of one of my requests to Dave in a new O.S. mainly a
pattern select mode that incorporates a rule that the switch will happen
upon the end of the currenty playing sequence and then move and continue
without losing a beat, true groovebox style. Let's hope it happens. No idea
though.

Ravi






>From: "Simon  <bontrip@...>" <bontrip@...>
>Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?
>Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 00:22:54 -0000
>
>Well there just no easy way to work with the Evolver for Live use.
>The fact that you can't change programs without resetting
>the pattern is really really anoying and disapointing. I thought i
>could use a Korg ES-1 as the master since the Electribe change
>to the next program only when the pattern has finish playing.
>Bummer, the
>Evolver  DOES NOT wait, it changes as soon as you change
>program on the ES-1.
>
>If anyone has find a way to achieve a smooth pattern change,
>please let me know cause i'm losing it here.
>
>Simonvolt
>


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Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

2003-01-28 by mr julian

Ravi,

I really like that idea, but I don't understand why the patch change should 
apply to the sequence only. Personally, if I was going to be using the 
evolver sequencing live I would want the ability for a patch change to 
switch the whole patch at the end of the pattern, sequence and all.



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>From: "Ravi Sharma" <noision1@...>
>Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?
>Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:00:13 -0500
>
>This is the subject of one of my requests to Dave in a new O.S. mainly a
>pattern select mode that incorporates a rule that the switch will happen
>upon the end of the currenty playing sequence and then move and continue
>without losing a beat, true groovebox style. Let's hope it happens. No idea
>though.
>
>Ravi
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Simon  <bontrip@...>" <bontrip@...>
> >Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> >To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?
> >Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 00:22:54 -0000
> >
> >Well there just no easy way to work with the Evolver for Live use.
> >The fact that you can't change programs without resetting
> >the pattern is really really anoying and disapointing. I thought i
> >could use a Korg ES-1 as the master since the Electribe change
> >to the next program only when the pattern has finish playing.
> >Bummer, the
> >Evolver  DOES NOT wait, it changes as soon as you change
> >program on the ES-1.
> >
> >If anyone has find a way to achieve a smooth pattern change,
> >please let me know cause i'm losing it here.
> >
> >Simonvolt
> >
>
>
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Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

2003-01-28 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

Well a brute force workaround is to use a sequencer that sends program change patches to the evolver at the exact start of a new bar (and have evolver set to LockSeq.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

I also requested this feature to Dave a few weeks ago.
I thought someone might have a workaround, i guess not.
I just don't see the point of having a sequencer
with 372 possible patterns if you can't jump from one
pattern to another, spacially when the designer is Mr Dave Smith
himself. And now my last hope for a workaround (korg Es-1 as master)
has failed. You know i can live with the fact that it can't control
other Midi devices, but i can't live with this limitation.
This is bad man.


Show quoted textHide quoted text

on 27/01/03 9:00 PM, Ravi Sharma at noision1@... wrote:

This is the subject of one of my requests to Dave in a new O.S. mainly a
pattern select mode that incorporates a rule that the switch will happen
upon the end of the currenty playing sequence and then move and continue
without losing a beat, true groovebox style. Let's hope it happens. No idea
though.

Ravi






>From: "Simon "
>Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?
>Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 00:22:54 -0000
>
>Well there just no easy way to work with the Evolver for Live use.
>The fact that you can't change programs without resetting
>the pattern is really really anoying and disapointing. I thought i
>could use a Korg ES-1 as the master since the Electribe change
>to the next program only when the pattern has finish playing.
>Bummer, the
>Evolver DOES NOT wait, it changes as soon as you change
>program on the ES-1.
>
>If anyone has find a way to achieve a smooth pattern change,
>please let me know cause i'm losing it here.
>
>Simonvolt
>


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Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

2003-01-28 by Ravi Sharma

It would apply to the whole patch as you say. So for example if you wanted a 
similar patch but with 4 different sequences, then you would construct four 
separate identical patches and then edit their sequences to fit. In the 
wished for feature, when the evolver got a patch change message while the 
sequencer was on, it would wait to the end of the sequence and then switch 
over, keeping the sequencer on for the new patch. Of course you could change 
it to a patch that had both a different sound and sequence, etc, etc.






>From: "mr julian" <jujulilianan@...>
>Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?
>Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:17:03 +1100
>
>
>Ravi,
>
>I really like that idea, but I don't understand why the patch change should
>apply to the sequence only. Personally, if I was going to be using the
>evolver sequencing live I would want the ability for a patch change to
>switch the whole patch at the end of the pattern, sequence and all.
>
>
>
>Julian
>
>
>--
>http://bleepin.com - "With Real Bleep You Can Really Taste!"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Ravi Sharma" <noision1@...>
> >Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> >To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?
> >Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:00:13 -0500
> >
> >This is the subject of one of my requests to Dave in a new O.S. mainly a
> >pattern select mode that incorporates a rule that the switch will happen
> >upon the end of the currenty playing sequence and then move and continue
> >without losing a beat, true groovebox style. Let's hope it happens. No 
>idea
> >though.
> >
> >Ravi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Simon  <bontrip@...>" <bontrip@...>
> > >Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?
> > >Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 00:22:54 -0000
> > >
> > >Well there just no easy way to work with the Evolver for Live use.
> > >The fact that you can't change programs without resetting
> > >the pattern is really really anoying and disapointing. I thought i
> > >could use a Korg ES-1 as the master since the Electribe change
> > >to the next program only when the pattern has finish playing.
> > >Bummer, the
> > >Evolver  DOES NOT wait, it changes as soon as you change
> > >program on the ES-1.
> > >
> > >If anyone has find a way to achieve a smooth pattern change,
> > >please let me know cause i'm losing it here.
> > >
> > >Simonvolt
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

2003-01-28 by simon leclerc

You know what, i did not try to use the ES-1 as master
when pattern are chained. Since the pattern changes
happen at the end of a program when they're chained,
it should change Evo's patterns on the beat. I will try
this and let you know.  This i could live with for the time
being ;)


on 27/01/03 9:25 PM, Ravi Ivan Sharma at noision1@... wrote:

Well a brute force workaround is to use a sequencer that sends program
change patches to the evolver at the exact start of a new bar (and have
evolver set to LockSeq.
Show quoted textHide quoted text
----- Original Message -----
From: simon leclerc <mailto:bontrip@...>
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

I also requested this feature to Dave a few weeks ago.
I thought someone might have a workaround, i guess not.
I just don't see the point of having a sequencer
with 372 possible patterns if you can't jump from one
pattern to another, spacially when the designer is Mr Dave Smith
himself.  And now my last hope for a workaround (korg Es-1 as master)
has failed. You know i can live with the fact that it can't control
other Midi devices, but i can't live with this limitation.
This is bad man.



on 27/01/03 9:00 PM, Ravi Sharma at noision1@... wrote:

This is the subject of one of my requests to Dave in a new O.S. mainly a
pattern select mode that incorporates a rule that the switch will happen
upon the end of the currenty playing sequence and then move and continue
without losing a beat, true groovebox style. Let's hope it happens. No idea
though.

Ravi






>From: "Simon  <bontrip@...>" <bontrip@...>
>Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?
>Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 00:22:54 -0000
>
>Well there just no easy way to work with the Evolver for Live use.
>The fact that you can't change programs without resetting
>the pattern is really really anoying and disapointing. I thought i
>could use a Korg ES-1 as the master since the Electribe change
>to the next program only when the pattern has finish playing.
>Bummer, the
>Evolver  DOES NOT wait, it changes as soon as you change
>program on the ES-1.
>
>If anyone has find a way to achieve a smooth pattern change,
>please let me know cause i'm losing it here.
>
>Simonvolt
>


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Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

2003-01-28 by simon leclerc

It does not work.
The Es-1 does not  send program changes
in song mode. 
I hope Dave hears us, cause there is just no smooth
way to work Live with the Evo if you need to change
patterns. And who works with just one  pattern ?
If you know what i'm saying...



on 27/01/03 9:38 PM, simon leclerc at bontrip@... wrote:

You know what, i did not try to use the ES-1 as master
when pattern are chained. Since the pattern changes
happen at the end of a program when they're chained,
it should change Evo's patterns on the beat. I will try
this and let you know.  This i could live with for the time
being ;)


on 27/01/03 9:25 PM, Ravi Ivan Sharma at noision1@... wrote:

Well a brute force workaround is to use a sequencer that sends program
change patches to the evolver at the exact start of a new bar (and have
evolver set to LockSeq.
Show quoted textHide quoted text
----- Original Message -----
From: simon leclerc <mailto:bontrip@...>
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

I also requested this feature to Dave a few weeks ago.
I thought someone might have a workaround, i guess not.
I just don't see the point of having a sequencer
with 372 possible patterns if you can't jump from one
pattern to another, spacially when the designer is Mr Dave Smith
himself.  And now my last hope for a workaround (korg Es-1 as master)
has failed. You know i can live with the fact that it can't control
other Midi devices, but i can't live with this limitation.
This is bad man.



on 27/01/03 9:00 PM, Ravi Sharma at noision1@... wrote:

This is the subject of one of my requests to Dave in a new O.S. mainly a
pattern select mode that incorporates a rule that the switch will happen
upon the end of the currenty playing sequence and then move and continue
without losing a beat, true groovebox style. Let's hope it happens. No idea
though.

Ravi






>From: "Simon  <bontrip@...>" <bontrip@...>
>Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?
>Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 00:22:54 -0000
>
>Well there just no easy way to work with the Evolver for Live use.
>The fact that you can't change programs without resetting
>the pattern is really really anoying and disapointing. I thought i
>could use a Korg ES-1 as the master since the Electribe change
>to the next program only when the pattern has finish playing.
>Bummer, the
>Evolver  DOES NOT wait, it changes as soon as you change
>program on the ES-1.
>
>If anyone has find a way to achieve a smooth pattern change,
>please let me know cause i'm losing it here.
>
>Simonvolt
>


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Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

2003-01-28 by simon leclerc

It does not work.
The Es-1 does not  send program changes
in song mode. 
I hope Dave hears us, cause there is just no smooth
way to work Live with the Evo if you need to change
patterns. And who works with just one  pattern ?
If you know what i'm saying...



on 27/01/03 9:38 PM, simon leclerc at bontrip@... wrote:

You know what, i did not try to use the ES-1 as master
when pattern are chained. Since the pattern changes
happen at the end of a program when they're chained,
it should change Evo's patterns on the beat. I will try
this and let you know.  This i could live with for the time
being ;)


on 27/01/03 9:25 PM, Ravi Ivan Sharma at noision1@... wrote:

Well a brute force workaround is to use a sequencer that sends program
change patches to the evolver at the exact start of a new bar (and have
evolver set to LockSeq.
Show quoted textHide quoted text
----- Original Message -----
From: simon leclerc <mailto:bontrip@...>
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

I also requested this feature to Dave a few weeks ago.
I thought someone might have a workaround, i guess not.
I just don't see the point of having a sequencer
with 372 possible patterns if you can't jump from one
pattern to another, spacially when the designer is Mr Dave Smith
himself.  And now my last hope for a workaround (korg Es-1 as master)
has failed. You know i can live with the fact that it can't control
other Midi devices, but i can't live with this limitation.
This is bad man.



on 27/01/03 9:00 PM, Ravi Sharma at noision1@... wrote:

This is the subject of one of my requests to Dave in a new O.S. mainly a
pattern select mode that incorporates a rule that the switch will happen
upon the end of the currenty playing sequence and then move and continue
without losing a beat, true groovebox style. Let's hope it happens. No idea
though.

Ravi






>From: "Simon  <bontrip@...>" <bontrip@...>
>Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?
>Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 00:22:54 -0000
>
>Well there just no easy way to work with the Evolver for Live use.
>The fact that you can't change programs without resetting
>the pattern is really really anoying and disapointing. I thought i
>could use a Korg ES-1 as the master since the Electribe change
>to the next program only when the pattern has finish playing.
>Bummer, the
>Evolver  DOES NOT wait, it changes as soon as you change
>program on the ES-1.
>
>If anyone has find a way to achieve a smooth pattern change,
>please let me know cause i'm losing it here.
>
>Simonvolt
>


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Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

2003-01-28 by Paul Nagle

On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:10:55 -0500, simon leclerc
<bontrip@...> wrote:

>And who works with just one  pattern ?

Me typically - with my ES1, ER1 and Polymorph. I dynamically create &
change the patterns (and sounds) as they play. I wouldn't consider
using the Evolver's sequencer live except as a rhythmic trigger for
different waves, notes supplied by me or as a means to chop up
incoming audio. It simply doesn't have a user interface suitable - for
my needs anyway. 

Paul
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Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

2003-01-28 by simon leclerc

>I dynamically create &
     change the patterns (and sounds) as they play.

Exactly what i'm trying to do, change the patterns on the fly.
But if it resets the next pattern you'd have to be very
quick & precise if you don't want to be out of sync, you miss it
once and that's it 

> It simply doesn't have a user interface suitable - for
my needs anyway. 

I have to disagree here, i find the Evolver
very inviting for Live, that is if you stay
on the same pattern.

I'm sure you like the way the Electribes work
together. Well a simple fonction on the Evolver, let's say
you press shift b4 switching to another program
so the pattern will only change to the next measure,
would change everything (for me at least) when working Live.

Anyways, i love my Evolver but I'd just love to have
this option  and i'm sure it's not
hard to implement, well at least not for Dave ;)







on 28/01/03 3:52 AM, Paul Nagle at paul@... wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:10:55 -0500, simon leclerc
<bontrip@...> wrote:

>And who works with just one  pattern ?

Me typically - with my ES1, ER1 and Polymorph. I dynamically create &
change the patterns (and sounds) as they play. I wouldn't consider
using the Evolver's sequencer live except as a rhythmic trigger for
different waves, notes supplied by me or as a means to chop up
incoming audio. It simply doesn't have a user interface suitable - for
my needs anyway. 

Paul
---
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Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

2003-01-28 by Paul Nagle

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 05:06:47 -0500, simon leclerc
<bontrip@...> wrote:

>>I dynamically create &   change the patterns (and sounds) as they play.
>Exactly what i'm trying to do, change the patterns on the fly.
>But if it resets the next pattern you'd have to be very
>quick & precise if you don't want to be out of sync, you miss it
>once and that's it 

No, I don't change to *different* patterns, I change the patterns that
are playing, morphing them into something else... but then that's me
and I'm weird... 8-)

Paul
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Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

2003-01-28 by simon leclerc

I like to work like this too when i'm
doing experimental stuff, you're
not that weird, or maybe i'm just weird too ;)
However,  i'm currently preparing a gig with
actual  "songs" with a bassist and
and a singer, that's why i'm obsessed
with this feature. 


on 28/01/03 5:28 AM, Paul Nagle at paul@... wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 05:06:47 -0500, simon leclerc
<bontrip@...> wrote:

>>I dynamically create &   change the patterns (and sounds) as they play.
>Exactly what i'm trying to do, change the patterns on the fly.
>But if it resets the next pattern you'd have to be very
>quick & precise if you don't want to be out of sync, you miss it
>once and that's it

No, I don't change to *different* patterns, I change the patterns that
are playing, morphing them into something else... but then that's me
and I'm weird... 8-)

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Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

2003-01-28 by Crackpot

tee hee, I wonder if Dave Smith has ever used things like
an MC-505?  I know he's a synth-wizard, but is he familiar
with what "the kiddies" have been doing in the late 90's!
anyway, that's just meant as an amusing thought...

I actually wanted to add that 

1) I agree a mode like this
would be useful, and 

2) you might want to make it blink
the upcoming pattern number until it takes hold (like
the mc-505).  And 

3) You might want to make it so you
have to press a button to lock in the next pattern, because
sometimes, it could take a few bars to find the proper next
pattern.  and 

4) you might want to make it so that you can force the next
pattern to be loaded in immediately with a second press
of that button.

whew.

fwiw, I haven't been treating my patches with any sort of 
terrific reverence.  I often just bulldoze, IDF-style (*), through
my patches, creating new sounds, then overwriting the old
ones, often before I even record them.  

-N




(*) sick reference to the Israeli Defense Forces...




On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 09:00:13PM -0500, Ravi Sharma wrote:
> This is the subject of one of my requests to Dave in a new O.S. mainly a 
> pattern select mode that incorporates a rule that the switch will happen 
> upon the end of the currenty playing sequence and then move and continue 
> without losing a beat, true groovebox style. Let's hope it happens. No idea 
> though.
> 
> Ravi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Simon  <bontrip@...>" <bontrip@...>
> >Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> >To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?
> >Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 00:22:54 -0000
> >
> >Well there just no easy way to work with the Evolver for Live use.
> >The fact that you can't change programs without resetting
> >the pattern is really really anoying and disapointing. I thought i
> >could use a Korg ES-1 as the master since the Electribe change
> >to the next program only when the pattern has finish playing.
> >Bummer, the
> >Evolver  DOES NOT wait, it changes as soon as you change
> >program on the ES-1.
> >
> >If anyone has find a way to achieve a smooth pattern change,
> >please let me know cause i'm losing it here.
> >
> >Simonvolt
> >
> 
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Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

2003-01-28 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

This ought to cover it:
;
Show quoted textHide quoted text
----- Original Message -----
From: Crackpot
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?



tee hee, I wonder if Dave Smith has ever used things like
an MC-505? I know he's a synth-wizard, but is he familiar
with what "the kiddies" have been doing in the late 90's!
anyway, that's just meant as an amusing thought...

I actually wanted to add that

1) I agree a mode like this
would be useful, and

2) you might want to make it blink
the upcoming pattern number until it takes hold (like
the mc-505). And

3) You might want to make it so you
have to press a button to lock in the next pattern, because
sometimes, it could take a few bars to find the proper next
pattern. and

4) you might want to make it so that you can force the next
pattern to be loaded in immediately with a second press
of that button.

whew.

fwiw, I haven't been treating my patches with any sort of
terrific reverence. I often just bulldoze, IDF-style (*), through
my patches, creating new sounds, then overwriting the old
ones, often before I even record them.

-N




(*) sick reference to the Israeli Defense Forces...




On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 09:00:13PM -0500, Ravi Sharma wrote:
> This is the subject of one of my requests to Dave in a new O.S. mainly a
> pattern select mode that incorporates a rule that the switch will happen
> upon the end of the currenty playing sequence and then move and continue
> without losing a beat, true groovebox style. Let's hope it happens. No idea
> though.
>
> Ravi
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Simon "
> >Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>; >To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?
> >Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 00:22:54 -0000
> >
> >Well there just no easy way to work with the Evolver for Live use.
> >The fact that you can't change programs without resetting
> >the pattern is really really anoying and disapointing. I thought i
> >could use a Korg ES-1 as the master since the Electribe change
> >to the next program only when the pattern has finish playing.
> >Bummer, the
> >Evolver DOES NOT wait, it changes as soon as you change
> >program on the ES-1.
> >
> >If anyone has find a way to achieve a smooth pattern change,
> >please let me know cause i'm losing it here.
> >
> >Simonvolt
> >
>
>
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Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?

2003-01-28 by simon leclerc

Yes that's exactly what i'm talking about !



on 28/01/03 5:19 PM, Ravi Ivan Sharma at noision1@... wrote:

This ought to cover it:
 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSI_Evolver/message/417
 



----- Original Message -----
From: Crackpot <mailto:shifty@...>
To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?



tee hee, I wonder if Dave Smith has ever used things like
an MC-505?  I know he's a synth-wizard, but is he familiar
with what "the kiddies" have been doing in the late 90's!
anyway, that's just meant as an amusing thought...

I actually wanted to add that

1) I agree a mode like this
would be useful, and

2) you might want to make it blink
the upcoming pattern number until it takes hold (like
the mc-505).  And 

3) You might want to make it so you
have to press a button to lock in the next pattern, because
sometimes, it could take a few bars to find the proper next
pattern.  and 

4) you might want to make it so that you can force the next
pattern to be loaded in immediately with a second press
of that button.

whew.

fwiw, I haven't been treating my patches with any sort of
terrific reverence.  I often just bulldoze, IDF-style (*), through
my patches, creating new sounds, then overwriting the old
ones, often before I even record them.

-N




(*) sick reference to the Israeli Defense Forces...
Show quoted textHide quoted text
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 09:00:13PM -0500, Ravi Sharma wrote:
> This is the subject of one of my requests to Dave in a new O.S. mainly a
> pattern select mode that incorporates a rule that the switch will happen
> upon the end of the currenty playing sequence and then move and continue
> without losing a beat, true groovebox style. Let's hope it happens. No idea
> though.
> 
> Ravi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Simon  <bontrip@...>" <bontrip@...>
> >Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> >To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [Evolver] Evolver = bad for Live use ?
> >Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 00:22:54 -0000
> >
> >Well there just no easy way to work with the Evolver for Live use.
> >The fact that you can't change programs without resetting
> >the pattern is really really anoying and disapointing. I thought i
> >could use a Korg ES-1 as the master since the Electribe change
> >to the next program only when the pattern has finish playing.
> >Bummer, the
> >Evolver  DOES NOT wait, it changes as soon as you change
> >program on the ES-1.
> >
> >If anyone has find a way to achieve a smooth pattern change,
> >please let me know cause i'm losing it here.
> >
> >Simonvolt
> >
> 
> 
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