Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

opened up my new drums that my wonerfull wife got me and 2 things 
are wrong. (yamaha dtx 2.0)

1.) no power cable, i found another 12v one at the house so that 
problem might be fixed.

2.) I can hardlely hear anything even with the volume at 100%

I reset all factory settings and i goofed around with sesitivity and 
all that stuff, nothing makes a difference, it's turned all the way 
up and the sticks hitting the pads is still audible with my 
headphones on. ANy suggestions, i did a search function on this site 
and 2 others and found nothing to try that i didn't think of already.

headphones are 24 ohms so i should be good there and i tried another 
12v power supply (this one was 3amps instead of 1 amp) and the drums 
sound the same. Also, I pluged in my powered 2.1 computer speakers 
and even with their amp turned all the way up the drums were still 
very, very quiet. I went into the settings and turned the volume 
from 100 to 127 and slid the volume knob all the way up and still 
nothing, they were the same volume with the internal volume setting 
at 127 as they were at 100. Do you guys think I got screwed?? These 
are used. But the guy packed them perfectly (bubble wrap, peanuts, 
seperat boxes)and even supplied an extra pad becouse he said one 
just didn't "seem right", i mean this guy seems sincere. I'm about 
to email him but please, if you guys can think of anything that 
might work tell me, I'll try it. Thanks.

What do you guys think????????????

When you hit the "voice" button on the module with the headphones on 
is the drum louder than the pad? Just a shot in the dark, the dip 
switches on the back in up position? Nothing worst then the drum kit 
not working properly.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "tboginski" <tboginski@y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> opened up my new drums that my wonerfull wife got me and 2 things 
> are wrong. (yamaha dtx 2.0)
> 
> 1.) no power cable, i found another 12v one at the house so that 
> problem might be fixed.
> 
> 2.) I can hardlely hear anything even with the volume at 100%
> 
> I reset all factory settings and i goofed around with sesitivity 
and 
> all that stuff, nothing makes a difference, it's turned all the way 
> up and the sticks hitting the pads is still audible with my 
> headphones on. ANy suggestions, i did a search function on this 
site 
> and 2 others and found nothing to try that i didn't think of 
already.
> 
> headphones are 24 ohms so i should be good there and i tried 
another 
> 12v power supply (this one was 3amps instead of 1 amp) and the 
drums 
> sound the same. Also, I pluged in my powered 2.1 computer speakers 
> and even with their amp turned all the way up the drums were still 
> very, very quiet. I went into the settings and turned the volume 
> from 100 to 127 and slid the volume knob all the way up and still 
> nothing, they were the same volume with the internal volume setting 
> at 127 as they were at 100. Do you guys think I got screwed?? These 
> are used. But the guy packed them perfectly (bubble wrap, peanuts, 
> seperat boxes)and even supplied an extra pad becouse he said one 
> just didn't "seem right", i mean this guy seems sincere. I'm about 
> to email him but please, if you guys can think of anything that 
> might work tell me, I'll try it. Thanks.
> 
> What do you guys think????????????

Hi,

Based on everything you've reported (he said, wiping the stuffing 
from his paws), I might have turned to the power supply, too. The 
output of the standard DTX wart is 700 mA at 12v, so you seem to be 
covered there, and since you seem also to be getting at least a 
little juice, the polarity should be okay, though I wouldn't swear to 
it. Even then, it's still possible that the power supply is at fault. 
The probability diminishes at least a little bit, however, when you 
get the same result from two of them. We could easily be overlooking 
an internal setting, however, especially on a day when attention 
might flag a bit. Since you can't do anything about it today, or 
possibly tomorrow either, let's see if anything else springs to mind 
in the meanwhile.

Ed

Hi there,

Yes, email the guy straight away with any and all your questions and 
concerns.

Like said I suppose it could be a bad power supply. I'd think that 
it's rated well enough @ 3amps, but could be putting out less. Is 
the display well lit? Dim? If bright as star then maybe ok. But you 
could always go to Wall-Mart, K-Mart, Radio Shack & pick up a power 
supply or two (TODAY or the next). Maybe even one with switchable 
voltages & a set of multi-plugs. Try to get to the closest rating 
you can. I would prefer to have THE Yamaha one, just because.

I would also check with a 2nd pair of headphones, OR be SURE the 
phones are ok. Have you tried the stereo L/R OUTS on the back of the 
module yet with something? Check those! Maybe there IS a problem, 
but only the headphone outs? I'd think that the headphone outs would 
have their own output amp & the stereo L/R out should be line 
voltage, so I'd try the L/R stereo outs on those powered speakers 
you spoke of, or to an amp, stereo system, PA etc...

Steve

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" <a_zapelectric@h...> wrote:

I seem to recall that each MIDI channel on the module has a volume 
control of its own--in the voice edit menu, isn' it?  If so, is the 
volume for MIDI channel 10, the standard receptacle for e-drums, set 
too low? While we're at it, sometimes the simplest things get 
overlooked. You mentioned raising the kit volume from 100 to 127, but 
did you raise the volume of the individual pads? The suggestion about 
trying another set of headphones is a good idea, and the DTX v2.0 is 
too much signal for a computer rig. The power supply is also rearing 
its ugly head. Radio Shack no longer appears to carry power supplies 
with switchable polarity, but places like Home Depot carry the Belkin 
version, which covers enough of the bases.

I contacted the original owner and he told me the power supply was 
still plugged into his wall, he will be sending it out on 
monday...so let's all pray that that solves the problem, although i 
doubt it will. Thank you all for the suggestions, I've tried all the 
things you have suggested, keep them comming, I want this thing to 
work so bad. BTW the stereo outputs are super quiet too.

Great that you're getting the DTX power supply!

In the mean time, did you try playing the DTX's internal songs? Are 
they also low in volume? If the internal songs are at a good volume, 
thie will give you some more clues to the power supply and output 
stage of the module.

So this seller didn't give you any clue as to the working condition? 
I'm a little supicious about him not sending the power 
supply...accidentaly on purpose maybe? Hmmm... time will tell. 
Again, try the internal songs (with the headphone AND the L/R 
outputs), and good luck with the power supply!

Steve

the internal songs are also very, very low. 
I'm at ork today but tonight i was going to plug a cd player into the 
inputs and see how that sounds through headphones as well, just 
trying to cover everything.
Fingers crossed the power supply does the trick, I'll be sure and 
post my findings.

Cheers




--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" <a_zapelectric@h...> wrote:
> 
> Great that you're getting the DTX power supply!
> 
> In the mean time, did you try playing the DTX's internal songs? Are 
> they also low in volume? If the internal songs are at a good 
volume, 
> thie will give you some more clues to the power supply and output 
> stage of the module.
> 
> So this seller didn't give you any clue as to the working 
condition? 

> I'm a little supicious about him not sending the power 
> supply...accidentaly on purpose maybe? Hmmm... time will tell. 
> Again, try the internal songs (with the headphone AND the L/R 
> outputs), and good luck with the power supply!
> 
> Steve

First off I want to say thank you to all the great guys on this 
forum, I just started coming to this forum a few weeks ago and as 
soon as I had a problem EVERYBODY was more than willing to try and 
help, Thank you all so much, I have nothing but respect for all of 
you and for this forum.

Next, THE PROBLEM IS OFFICIALLY FIXED!!!!!
Turned out the pair of headphones i bought just didn't like those 
drums for some reason, they work great with everything else but for 
some strange reason they suck with my edrums. I found an old pair of 
headphones that i bought about 5 years ago to play my dd-50 (those 
little 7 pad yamaha single unit things) I plugged them in and WOW!!! 
These things are great. I stayed up for 5 hours last night playing 
and making custom kits and just giggling the whole time. EDrumming 
rules, even with my older kit this is more fun than i ever had on 
my "a" drums. I already added and extra pad and today i'll be 
shopping for a new throne, a new kick trigger and a mesh pad for the 
snare, I am so hooked. My wife is addicted to the Sims computer game 
and my son is addicted to anything that has to do with the Power 
Rangers and now I have something awesome to do when those two are 
in "their own worlds". 

Anyway, thank you all very very much and to anyone who is thinking 
about buying a set of edrums.......DO IT!!!! Even the the older kits 
rule!! 


Cheers and happy playing people
(now back to the druming while the wife busy and the son is at school)


Travis




--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "tboginski" <tboginski@y...> wrote:
> 
> the internal songs are also very, very low. 
> I'm at ork today but tonight i was going to plug a cd player into 
the 
> inputs and see how that sounds through headphones as well, just 
> trying to cover everything.
> Fingers crossed the power supply does the trick, I'll be sure and 
> post my findings.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" <a_zapelectric@h...> 
wrote:
> > 
> > Great that you're getting the DTX power supply!
> > 
> > In the mean time, did you try playing the DTX's internal songs? 
Are 

> > they also low in volume? If the internal songs are at a good 
> volume, 
> > thie will give you some more clues to the power supply and output 
> > stage of the module.
> > 
> > So this seller didn't give you any clue as to the working 
> condition? 
> > I'm a little supicious about him not sending the power 
> > supply...accidentaly on purpose maybe? Hmmm... time will tell. 
> > Again, try the internal songs (with the headphone AND the L/R 
> > outputs), and good luck with the power supply!
> > 
> > Steve

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "tboginski" <tboginski@y...> wrote:
> 
> First off I want to say thank you to all the great guys on this 
> forum, I just started coming to this forum a few weeks ago and as 
> soon as I had a problem EVERYBODY was more than willing to try and 
> help, Thank you all so much, I have nothing but respect for all of 
> you and for this forum.

Aw, I'll bet you say that to all the boys. Seriously, glad that it 
worked out. Ain't it funny, though. We've all been down this road a 
million times, trying not to overlook the simplest causes, only to 
find that 90% of the time, we've overlooked one of them. Have fun.