Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hi Guys,

Does anyone here know if another brain will work with the DTXpress 
drums? I figure a trigger is a trigger but the signals may be sent 
differantly.

Any advice?

Tony

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "TF" <skunizzi@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
> 
> Does anyone here know if another brain will work with the DTXpress 
> drums? I figure a trigger is a trigger but the signals may be sent 
> differantly.
> 
> Any advice?
> 
> Tony

Tony,

Other brains will work with the DTXpress, but not necessarily as 
easily as a Yamaha brain. But modules with fine adjustments for input 
sensitivity (almost all of them except Yamaha's) should be able to 
compensate for most triggering anomalies on mono pads out of the gate. 
Don't forget, however, that not all brains have inputs compatible with 
Yamaha's edge/bow or center/rim rubber pads.  Many modules that have 
found their way to the market take only mono/dual-zone pads (like the 
Alesis or ddrum ones, for example); they will fail to operate Yamaha's 
rim-switches, accessing only the main piezos. Yamaha hi hats also work 
on proprietary principles, requiring at the very least, an adaptor for 
use on Roland and Roland-compatible equipment. Don't buy anything, 
without trying it first or at least without credible testimony from 
the e-drum community.

Ed

hi ed,

you mentioned in this response that yamaha hi-hats also work on roland modules; do you 
know if yamaha's RHH 130 will work with a roland TD-20 module? i have never seen or 
heard of the adaptors of which you speak. i'm debating between getting a td-20 or getting 
a dtxtreme IIs. i already have the hi hat. 

thank you, 

parebele

> Tony,
> 
> Other brains will work with the DTXpress, but not necessarily as 
> easily as a Yamaha brain. But modules with fine adjustments for input 
> sensitivity (almost all of them except Yamaha's) should be able to 
> compensate for most triggering anomalies on mono pads out of the gate. 
> Don't forget, however, that not all brains have inputs compatible with 
> Yamaha's edge/bow or center/rim rubber pads.  Many modules that have 
> found their way to the market take only mono/dual-zone pads (like the 
> Alesis or ddrum ones, for example); they will fail to operate Yamaha's 
> rim-switches, accessing only the main piezos. Yamaha hi hats also work 
> on proprietary principles, requiring at the very least, an adaptor for 
> use on Roland and Roland-compatible equipment. Don't buy anything, 
> without trying it first or at least without credible testimony from 
> the e-drum community.
> 
> Ed
>

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "parebele" <parebele@...> wrote:
>
> hi ed,
> 
> you mentioned in this response that yamaha hi-hats also work on
roland modules; do you 
> know if yamaha's RHH 130 will work with a roland TD-20 module? i
have never seen or 
> heard of the adaptors of which you speak. i'm debating between
getting a td-20 or getting 
> a dtxtreme IIs. i already have the hi hat. 
>

I am sure Ed will jump in if I am wrong, but I think the Roland and
Yamaha Hi-Hat pedals work in the opposite sense so are not compatible.
 There are adaptors around to fix the problem.

This is one, but I think is for using a Roland on the Yamaha rather
than the other way round.

http://shop.drumbalaya.com/Electronic_Drums/Hi-hat_Converters

Keith.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "parebele" <parebele@...> wrote:
> you mentioned in this response that yamaha hi-hats also work on 
roland modules; do you 
> know if yamaha's RHH 130 will work with a roland TD-20 module? i 
have never seen or 
> heard of the adaptors of which you speak. i'm debating between 
getting a td-20 or getting 
> a dtxtreme IIs. i already have the hi hat. 

Tony,

Traditionally, Yamaha hi hats have required a special adapter that 
changes polarity, among other things, for use with Roland modules. 
I'd be surprised if the RHH 130 works with the TD-20 without help. 
You could check with Ed Morin at Drumbalaya, or one of his staff; you 
should be aware of Drumbalaya, anyway. This store produces its own 
adapter for predicaments like yours and routinely tests for component 
compatibility. 

I should also mention a little trick involving a little device dubbed 
the "Shack adapter" at the Roland board (vdrums.com)--a stereo-to-
mono connector available at Radio Shack for about $3.00 (part # 274-
1520C). I've never had occasion to try it, but people swear by it. 
Just plug the stereo end of the adapter into the the hi-hat 
controller; the mono cable plugs into the adapter on one end and the 
Roland module's high-hat jack on the other end. If all goes according 
to plan, the Yamaha hi hat thereby adjusts to Roland demands.
 
Ed