Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Does anyone hate the choke facility on the ride cymbal pad rim as much as I do? I hate the fact that if I play the rim edge fast, every second beat tends to choke the sound. I am thinking of buying an extra cymbal pad and splitting the rim sound off to that pad. Has anyone tried doing that?

Recently I've programmed the ride rim as a second crash cymbal. It has worked well except for that inadvertent choking problem.

Re my problem with starting a main song by hitting a pad, I have now worked out how to do it, thanks to helpful tips from "underneathheaven". Thanks, buddy - much appreciated!

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Change the pad type from ride to misc 1, or something else that 
doesn't support the choke.
Scott

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Nicholas Carroll <njcarroll56@y...> 
wrote:
> 
> Does anyone hate the choke facility on the ride cymbal pad rim as 
much as I do? I hate the fact that if I play the rim edge fast, every 
second beat tends to choke the sound.  I am thinking of buying an 
extra cymbal pad and splitting the rim sound off to that pad.  Has 
anyone tried doing that?
> 
> Recently I've programmed the ride rim as a second crash cymbal. It 
has worked well except for that inadvertent choking problem.
> 
> Re my problem with starting a main song by hitting a pad, I have now 
worked out how to do it, thanks to helpful tips from 
"underneathheaven". Thanks, buddy - much appreciated!
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
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I keep the "chokeable" cymbal pad on my left as a crash, and I use the
single-sound pad as my ride, so I don't get this problem. I find I need
the crash choke more often than trying to choke a ride. In fact, on my
acoustic set, I don't think I ever did choke a ride.. Maybe just a
playing style thing. I can see using the chokable pad if you want to get
two distinct sounds from the pad (rim ride and bell ride for example) but
I have heard of people using the "natural" increased velocity of the pad
closer to the bell to cause a velocity cross fade for ride cymbal bell at
higher velocity to get a "fake" dual zone ride. :)

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Nicholas Carroll said:

>
> Does anyone hate the choke facility on the ride cymbal pad rim as much
> as I do? I hate the fact that if I play the rim edge fast, every second
> beat tends to choke the sound.  I am thinking of buying an extra cymbal
> pad and splitting the rim sound off to that pad.  Has anyone tried
> doing that?
>
> Recently I've programmed the ride rim as a second crash cymbal. It has
> worked well except for that inadvertent choking problem.
>
> Re my problem with starting a main song by hitting a pad, I have now
> worked out how to do it, thanks to helpful tips from
> "underneathheaven". Thanks, buddy - much appreciated!
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Yahoo! Mobile
> - Exchange IMs with Messenger friends on your Telstra or Vodafone
> mobile phone.

Hi Nicholas,

Some people have had this type of trouble because of
minute contanimation (belly button lint) between the
rubber pad and the plastic .  I think the fix was to
gently peal back the rubber and clean both it and the
plastic so they're spotless, then put it back
together, but just to be sure, I suggest you search
the posts and find the instructions.  Walt 
--- Nicholas Carroll <njcarroll56@...> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone hate the choke facility on the ride
> cymbal pad rim as much as I do? I hate the fact that
> if I play the rim edge fast, every second beat tends
> to choke the sound.  I am thinking of buying an
> extra cymbal pad and splitting the rim sound off to
> that pad.  Has anyone tried doing that?
> 
> Recently I've programmed the ride rim as a second
> crash cymbal. It has worked well except for that
> inadvertent choking problem.
> 
> Re my problem with starting a main song by hitting a
> pad, I have now worked out how to do it, thanks to
> helpful tips from "underneathheaven". Thanks, buddy
> - much appreciated!
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------
> Yahoo! Mobile
> - Exchange IMs with Messenger friends on your
> Telstra or Vodafone mobile phone.


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.....................I am thinking of buying an extra cymbal pad and 
splitting the rim sound off to that pad.  Has anyone tried doing that?

Nicholas, I've done that. I use the dual pad to the right, and have 
the edge programmed as a crash and the pad as a ride. However, I 
didn't like the feel of the pad for a ride, plus it wasn't placed in 
a comfortable position. I 'Y-ed' a TP80s pad to it and placed it on 
lower on the right. I use the pad to ride on and it's better 
positioned and feels more comfortable. I can crash the rim and choke 
it as well.

WHAT? did you do?
You can't split the rim voice off to another pad. The rim function is 
inextricably linked to the pad.
Scott

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "brown8700 <brown8700@a...>" 
<brown8700@a...> wrote:
> 
> .....................I am thinking of buying an extra cymbal pad and 
> splitting the rim sound off to that pad.  Has anyone tried doing 
that?

> 
> Nicholas, I've done that. I use the dual pad to the right, and have 
> the edge programmed as a crash and the pad as a ride. However, I 
> didn't like the feel of the pad for a ride, plus it wasn't placed in 
> a comfortable position. I 'Y-ed' a TP80s pad to it and placed it on 
> lower on the right. I use the pad to ride on and it's better 
> positioned and feels more comfortable. I can crash the rim and choke 
> it as well.

No, I didn't split the rim sound off. What I did was brought two pads 
together to the same trigger with a Y cable, not a splitter. I joined 
a PCYs and a TP80s together. The rim sounds on both are a crash, the 
pad sounds on both are a ride. It's just easier to crash the rim of 
the PCY and easier to ride on the pad of the TP80, both due to 
construction and where I have them positioned.

OK... Yes the rim function on the PCY is MUCH better! AND the TP is 
a better ride. But I tried combining pads to a common input, and 
both pads didn't perform as well.Maybe I'll try again!!!
Scott

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "brown8700 <brown8700@a...>" 
<brown8700@a...> wrote:
> No, I didn't split the rim sound off. What I did was brought two 
pads 
> together to the same trigger with a Y cable, not a splitter. I 
joined 

> a PCYs and a TP80s together. The rim sounds on both are a crash, the 
> pad sounds on both are a ride. It's just easier to crash the rim of 
> the PCY and easier to ride on the pad of the TP80, both due to 
> construction and where I have them positioned.

Scott:
If you were using a stereo (ring in / tip in) that probably wouldn't 
work. I used a standard stereo joiner, with both female plugs having 
the ring and tip sensors.
Try that and see if that helps.