Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme group photo

Yahoo Groups archive

Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 22:44 UTC

Thread

walt's pm-16

walt's pm-16

2003-02-25 by hairytrigger <artifax@internetcds.com>

Walt, I see in your pics that you have a pm-16. It looks as if you 
have pads plugged into it, and then midi'ed to the DTXPress. Is this 
correct? Do you save kit patches on the pm-16?
I recently scored a pm-16 on ebay. I have not yet gotten it, but I 
have the old Dtxpress, so I hope I don't have the trouble these other 
poor folks are!! I was hoping to run all the pads thru the pm-16, 
rather than just the extra ones(the ones past inputs 9/10). Is this a 
good idea?
Thanks....Scott

Re: [DTXpress] walt's pm-16

2003-02-25 by Walt

Hi Scott,

Yes, I did have a PM-16 MIDIed into my DTX V2 module,
and it worked fine there.  I also tested it in my
DTXpress I, and it worked fine there too.  One thing
you need to consider, however, is that the xpress does
not save the notes other than what it uses for kits
(i.e. Pad1, Pad1rim, Pad2, etc.) in the user drum
kits.  Any other note assigments it keeps in the User
Drum Map (and there is only 1 per xpress), which means
that any sounds that you assign via MIDI notes are the
same through all of the user kits.  Does that make
sense?  

The DTX V2 does it a little differently, keeping track
of all of the MIDI notes within each user kit, it is
like each kit has its own drum map, if you get what
I'm driving at here.

This means that any MIDI device you want to use needs
to have the ability to store it's own various
settings, and you have to manage the MIDI note numbers
real closely to avoid stepping on ones already used.

As for the posts of late, they are only problems with
xpress II models, the originals work just fine.  If
you do get one and need a hand getting it going, just
let us know - we can almost do it in our sleep at this
point!

Walt

Walt
--- "hairytrigger <artifax@...>"
<artifax@...> wrote:
> Walt, I see in your pics that you have a pm-16. It
> looks as if you 
> have pads plugged into it, and then midi'ed to the
> DTXPress. Is this 
> correct? Do you save kit patches on the pm-16?
> I recently scored a pm-16 on ebay. I have not yet
> gotten it, but I 
> have the old Dtxpress, so I hope I don't have the
> trouble these other 
> poor folks are!! I was hoping to run all the pads
> thru the pm-16, 
> rather than just the extra ones(the ones past inputs
> 9/10). Is this a 
> good idea?
> Thanks....Scott
> 
> 


__________________________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more
http://taxes.yahoo.com/

Re: walt's pm-16

2003-02-25 by hairytrigger <artifax@internetcds.com>

Walt, thanks....If I get what you're saying, with the pm-16, I'd be 
better off keeping the pads connected to the xpress, and just adding 
the extra pads thru the pm-16.Is this correct?
How does this system deal with crosstalk? The trouble I had when 
trying to use a TD-5  for my extra pads, is that the pads connected to 
xpress, and the pads connected to TD-5 would cross-talk, and with no 
interface between them, it was uncontrolable, except with threshold(or 
mounting on separate rack). Any ideas?
Thanks   Scott

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Walt <wgardus@y...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Hi Scott,
> 
> Yes, I did have a PM-16 MIDIed into my DTX V2 module,
> and it worked fine there.  I also tested it in my
> DTXpress I, and it worked fine there too.  One thing
> you need to consider, however, is that the xpress does
> not save the notes other than what it uses for kits
> (i.e. Pad1, Pad1rim, Pad2, etc.) in the user drum
> kits.  Any other note assigments it keeps in the User
> Drum Map (and there is only 1 per xpress), which means
> that any sounds that you assign via MIDI notes are the
> same through all of the user kits.  Does that make
> sense?  
> 
> The DTX V2 does it a little differently, keeping track
> of all of the MIDI notes within each user kit, it is
> like each kit has its own drum map, if you get what
> I'm driving at here.
> 
> This means that any MIDI device you want to use needs
> to have the ability to store it's own various
> settings, and you have to manage the MIDI note numbers
> real closely to avoid stepping on ones already used.
> 
> As for the posts of late, they are only problems with
> xpress II models, the originals work just fine.  If
> you do get one and need a hand getting it going, just
> let us know - we can almost do it in our sleep at this
> point!
> 
> Walt
> 
> Walt
> --- "hairytrigger <artifax@i...>"
> <artifax@i...> wrote:
> > Walt, I see in your pics that you have a pm-16. It
> > looks as if you 
> > have pads plugged into it, and then midi'ed to the
> > DTXPress. Is this 
> > correct? Do you save kit patches on the pm-16?
> > I recently scored a pm-16 on ebay. I have not yet
> > gotten it, but I 
> > have the old Dtxpress, so I hope I don't have the
> > trouble these other 
> > poor folks are!! I was hoping to run all the pads
> > thru the pm-16, 
> > rather than just the extra ones(the ones past inputs
> > 9/10). Is this a 
> > good idea?
> > Thanks....Scott
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more
> http://taxes.yahoo.com/

Re: [DTXpress] Re: walt's pm-16

2003-02-25 by Walt

Hi Scott,  Crosstalk is always going to be an issue,
no matter what combination of devices you have.  All
you can do is work on the rack, and adjust(reduce)
sensitivities.    The more control a device gives you
(like gain, sensitivity, rejection), the better off
you'll be.  The PM-16 is an older generation device,
and as such does not have as much control as an xpress
has.

As for your thought of attaching just your extra pads
to the PM-16 - I would say yes, that would be the way
to go.

Your other option is to go with multiple modules,and a
mixer.  Without a doubt you get the most control and
flexibility with this option, as it sounds like you
tried.  I don't know how much the TD-5 offers in the
way of trigger controls - if not as much as an xpress,
you could consider getting a second xpress module.  By
the way mine is going on eBay, they seem to be fairly
cheap.    

Walt
--- "hairytrigger <artifax@...>"
<artifax@...> wrote:
> Walt, thanks....If I get what you're saying, with
> the pm-16, I'd be 
> better off keeping the pads connected to the xpress,
> and just adding 
> the extra pads thru the pm-16.Is this correct?
> How does this system deal with crosstalk? The
> trouble I had when 
> trying to use a TD-5  for my extra pads, is that the
> pads connected to 
> xpress, and the pads connected to TD-5 would
> cross-talk, and with no 
> interface between them, it was uncontrolable, except
> with threshold(or 
> mounting on separate rack). Any ideas?
> Thanks   Scott
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Walt <wgardus@y...>
> wrote:
> > Hi Scott,
> > 
> > Yes, I did have a PM-16 MIDIed into my DTX V2
> module,
> > and it worked fine there.  I also tested it in my
> > DTXpress I, and it worked fine there too.  One
> thing
> > you need to consider, however, is that the xpress
> does
> > not save the notes other than what it uses for
> kits
> > (i.e. Pad1, Pad1rim, Pad2, etc.) in the user drum
> > kits.  Any other note assigments it keeps in the
> User
> > Drum Map (and there is only 1 per xpress), which
> means
> > that any sounds that you assign via MIDI notes are
> the
> > same through all of the user kits.  Does that make
> > sense?  
> > 
> > The DTX V2 does it a little differently, keeping
> track
> > of all of the MIDI notes within each user kit, it
> is
> > like each kit has its own drum map, if you get
> what
> > I'm driving at here.
> > 
> > This means that any MIDI device you want to use
> needs
> > to have the ability to store it's own various
> > settings, and you have to manage the MIDI note
> numbers
> > real closely to avoid stepping on ones already
> used.
> > 
> > As for the posts of late, they are only problems
> with
> > xpress II models, the originals work just fine. 
> If
> > you do get one and need a hand getting it going,
> just
> > let us know - we can almost do it in our sleep at
> this
> > point!
> > 
> > Walt
> > 
> > Walt
> > --- "hairytrigger <artifax@i...>"
> > <artifax@i...> wrote:
> > > Walt, I see in your pics that you have a pm-16.
> It
> > > looks as if you 
> > > have pads plugged into it, and then midi'ed to
> the
> > > DTXPress. Is this 
> > > correct? Do you save kit patches on the pm-16?
> > > I recently scored a pm-16 on ebay. I have not
> yet
> > > gotten it, but I 
> > > have the old Dtxpress, so I hope I don't have
> the
> > > trouble these other 
> > > poor folks are!! I was hoping to run all the
> pads
> > > thru the pm-16, 
> > > rather than just the extra ones(the ones past
> inputs
> > > 9/10). Is this a 
> > > good idea?
> > > Thanks....Scott
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more
> > http://taxes.yahoo.com/
> 
> 

__________________________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more
http://taxes.yahoo.com/

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.