Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

I just bought my DTXpress a month ago.  This was my first set of e-
drum, even right out-of-the-box, I was very impressed by what it can 
do (for the amount of money I paid).

I have already upgraded Tom 1 & 2 to dual zone pads and added a 4th 
Tom to the set (Input 9 via a TRS splitter).  For my next upgrade, I 
want to plug the current Ride cymbal (PCY80) into Input 10 and use it 
as a 2nd Crash and buy a better Ride cymbal to take the Ride input.

I am having trouble finding the cymbal to the specs that I need.  
What I need is a Stereo cymbal trigger with bell/bow (I don't need 
edge).

Everything I've seen so far is bow/edge trigger.  As you know, Stereo 
triggers plugging into the Ride input must be 1 piezo/1 switch 
configuration.

Where can I find such animal?  Please help.

--- pair6s wrote:
> What I need is a Stereo cymbal trigger with bell/bow
> (I don't need edge). Where can I find such animal?

I don't think you can. The only thing we can assume would come close 
is the mythical PCY150 "triple zone" cymbal which hasn't been 
released. The only way you could get what you need is to give up one 
of your 9/10 inputs to a PCY10 bell pad, which is a regular piezo 
trigger.

I've been thinking about this I don't know how someone would go 
about making a membrane switch work over such a large area as a 
cymbal bell. Round a rim seems straightforward, but on a large flat 
area it must be quite likely that the switch would "collapse" on 
itself.

Stewart

I'm glad you've mentioned the "triple zone" triggers.  I do not know 
the technical details behind it; however, my best guess is that even 
with the TP65S, the "triple zone" triggers are still single piezo 
with one (or possibly two) switches.

Since I have the original DTXpress, the module can't fully utilize 
the triple zone triggers.  What would be interesting is that someone 
try a TP65S on an original DTXpress to see how the module responds to 
the 2 zones on the rim.

There would be 3 possibilities:
1) Only 1 side of the rim will produce sounds.
2) Both sides of the rim will produce the same sound.
3) No sounds will be produced.

It would be logical to me that the supposed PCY150 use the same 
technique to achieve 3 zones.  To tie all this to the intended 
discussion on the bell/bow ride cymbal, if possibility #2 is the 
result from the above experiment, owners of the original DTXpress can 
still utilize the supposed PCY150 (assuming the bell & rim are 
switches) and other triple zone triggers as dual zones.  If 
possibility #1 is the outcome, then a (simple) rewiring can be done 
so the user can choose to between the bell or the rim.

If someone would try the TP65S on the original DTXpress and post 
their findings here, that would be greatly appreciated.  We can then 
further close in on the already narrow gap between DTXpress I & II.


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...> 
wrote:
> --- pair6s wrote:
> > What I need is a Stereo cymbal trigger with bell/bow
> > (I don't need edge). Where can I find such animal?
> 
> I don't think you can. The only thing we can assume would come 
close 
> is the mythical PCY150 "triple zone" cymbal which hasn't been 
> released. The only way you could get what you need is to give up 
one 

> of your 9/10 inputs to a PCY10 bell pad, which is a regular piezo 
> trigger.
> 
> I've been thinking about this I don't know how someone would go 
> about making a membrane switch work over such a large area as a 
> cymbal bell. Round a rim seems straightforward, but on a large flat 
> area it must be quite likely that the switch would "collapse" on 
> itself.
> 
> Stewart

>I'm glad you've mentioned the "triple zone" triggers.   I do not know 
> >the technical details behind it; however, my best guess is that even 
> >with the TP65S, the "triple zone" triggers are still single piezo 
> >with one (or possibly two) switches. 
> 
If you look in the photos section you will see a TP65s that has been taken
apart that shows the two rim ribben switches and the single piezo for the
pad trigger. 
> 
> >Since I have the original DTXpress, the module can't fully utilize 
> >the triple zone triggers.   What would be interesting is that someone 
> >try a TP65S on an original DTXpress to see how the module responds to 
> >the 2 zones on the rim.
> 
You would get two zones only pad and rim. The two rim switches would act as
one. 
> 
> 
> If someone would try the TP65S on the original DTXpress and post 
> their findings here, that would be greatly appreciated.   We can then 
> further close in on the already narrow gap between DTXpress I & II.
> 
> I don't believe the DTXpress I has the necessary internal programming to
> address the three zone issue, although I wonder if the updated chip from
> the DTXpressII would work in the DTXpress I?
> 
OGD
 
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--- rdamon wrote:
> You would get two zones only pad and rim. The two
> rim switches would act as one. 

Correct. You get this effect if you plug the 65S into any of the 
stereo rather than the triple-zone inputs on the DTXpressII.

My query about the way the "triple zone" cymbal worked was not 
electrical - I agree it would work in the same way as the TP65S. It 
was mechanical. I don't see a way of making a membrane switch which 
was big enough and robust enough to operate over a wide, bell-shaped 
area without eventually collapsing and being untriggerable. The only 
thing I can figure is it might work a little like a "mini-TP65" - 
the membrane switch is just on the edge of the bell, but the bell is 
rigid enough that striking anywhere on it closes the edge switch.

Any way it works, I'd love to have one...

Stewart

> Stewart wrote: "thing I can figure is it might work a little like a
> "mini-TP65" - 
> the membrane switch is just on the edge of the bell, but the bell is 
> rigid enough that striking anywhere on it closes the edge switch."
> 
> 
> The ribbons (Fsr) that I have seen on other web sites are all
> flat/straight. Yamaha is getting custom manufactured curved ones. If you
> could get a ribbon that would spiral around the bell and had a matching
> spiral rigid on the underside of the rubber covering that makes contact
> with it, I could see how it would work fairly easily. The bell would be
> "rim1", the edge would be "rim2" and the bow would be the Pad piezo. You
> would just have a bigger box on the underside of the cymbal pad for the
> PCB with the extra resistors.  Thus the three zone (pcy150) would function
> in the same fashion as the TP65S. And with simple programming, choking
> could be added by calibrating the contact timing. (i.e. if the contact on
> the fsr is held closed longer than a pre-set duration then choking of the
> sound for all zones would occur, if less than the pre-set duration then
> contact would generate the assigned sound.)
> 
> 
> By the way there is a 1/8" diameter rigid on the underside of the rubber
> covering on the top edge of the PCY80S that makes the contact with the FSR
> for both the edge and choking feature.
> 
> 
> Has anybody cut into a PCY10 bell pad to see what's inside it. My guess is
> a piezo on the bottom of the top side where the leads come out, since the
> bell feels more rigid (like metal) than PCY65 that is made of plastic. I
> am thinking about ditching one of my PCY10 and replacing it with the extra
> TP65 I have sitting around. (That will give me ten toms around. I just
> need to order a mounting arm/bracket for the TP65.) When I get the mount,
> I will hack into a PCY10, to see it's insides. I love taking things apart.
> HeHe. 
> 
> OGD
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If the original DTXpress can be upgraded to use triple zone pads by 
popping in the chip from DTXpress II, that would be by far the best 
upgrade for us orginal DTXpress owners.

All right, who's got access to both DTXpress I & II and willing to 
try this out?  :)

Besides the triple zone upgrade to the DTXpress II brain, are there 
any other differences when compared to the original DTXpress brain?

I've only had the DTXpress for a month, and already I feel like I 
have an addiction problem.  Thank God for this support group.  Now I 
am reassured that I am not alone.  :)


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> > I don't believe the DTXpress I has the necessary internal 
programming to
> > address the three zone issue, although I wonder if the updated 
chip from

> > the DTXpressII would work in the DTXpress I?
> > 
> OGD

> pair6s wrote: "If the original DTXpress can be upgraded to use triple zone
> pads by 
> popping in the chip from DTXpress II, that would be by far the best 
> upgrade for us orginal DTXpress owners.
> 
> All right, who's got access to both DTXpress I & II and willing to 
> try this out?  :)"
> 
> A quick email to Yamaha support might be able to answer this question. Now
> that I have the update chips for my dtxpressII, I don't have a need for
> the originals that came with it. If it can be determined that they can in
> fact work and if they will activate the three zone feature, then I can
> easily part with them. But my guess is that if they did work, the price
> for the chip would be very expensive. 
> 
> OGD
> 
> 
> 
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rdamon@... said:
>> But my guess is that if they did work, the price
>> for the chip would be very expensive.
>>

Unless someone had an EPROM burner! :D

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rdamon@... said:

>> pair6s wrote: "If the original DTXpress can be upgraded to use triple
>> zone
>> pads by
>> popping in the chip from DTXpress II, that would be by far the best
>> upgrade for us orginal DTXpress owners.
>>
>> All right, who's got access to both DTXpress I & II and willing to
>> try this out?  :)"
>>
>> A quick email to Yamaha support might be able to answer this question.
>> Now
>> that I have the update chips for my dtxpressII, I don't have a need for
>> the originals that came with it. If it can be determined that they can
>> in
>> fact work and if they will activate the three zone feature, then I can
>> easily part with them. But my guess is that if they did work, the price
>> for the chip would be very expensive.
>>
>> OGD
>>
>>
>>
>>
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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon Graner" <vern@t...> wrote:
 Unless someone had an EPROM burner! :D
> 
Vern,

Not to change the subject, but is the dtxpression site down? 
Everytime I click on the shortcut to www.dtxpressions.com, I get sent 
to the Net-Identity website saying the site was not found.

OGD

Hmm thats weird, its up for me and resolves through SBC abd also Espire
(two 3rd party companies) also the domain is in good standing... Can u
ping it?

PS: Maybe email me directly about this to keep list traffic from having
to deal with this.. :)
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oldguydrummer said:

> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon Graner" <vern@t...> wrote:
>  Unless someone had an EPROM burner! :D
>>
> Vern,
>
> Not to change the subject, but is the dtxpression site down?
> Everytime I click on the shortcut to www.dtxpressions.com, I get sent
> to the Net-Identity website saying the site was not found.
>
> OGD
>
>
>
> Community email addresses:
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>
> Shortcut URL to this page:
>   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress
>
> Alternate DTXpress site:
>   http://www.dtxpressions.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

If not too much trouble, can you please post the markings on the chip 
in this forum or post a snap shot of it?  This way, someone can 
determine if the chips are even pin compatible.  Thanks.



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> > A quick email to Yamaha support might be able to answer this 
question. Now
> > that I have the update chips for my dtxpressII, I don't have a 
need for
> > the originals that came with it. If it can be determined that 
they can in
> > fact work and if they will activate the three zone feature, then 
I can
> > easily part with them. But my guess is that if they did work, the 
price
> > for the chip would be very expensive.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "pair6s" <pair6s@y...> wrote:
> If not too much trouble, can you please post the markings on the 
chip 
> in this forum or post a snap shot of it?  This way, someone can 
> determine if the chips are even pin compatible.  Thanks.
> 
There are photos in the photos section under "Inside the 
dtxpress\dtxpuII" photo album of the inside of the module. The chip 
is the long black one in the center bottom of the module.

OGD

The pictures of the chip in the photos section were too small.  It 
isn't possible to determine what type of chip that was (cannot read 
the markings on the chip).

Say if the original DTXpress uses chip type ABC and DTXpress II uses 
chip type XYZ, and upon the results of looking up the specs on those 
2 chips determines they are NOT pin compatible, one can conclude that 
the chips from DTXpress I & DTXpress II are NOT interchangeable.  
(yes, that was one long sentence).

OGD, if you would, please post larger picture of the chip or just 
post the markings on the chip in this discussion forum.  Thanks in 
advance.


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "oldguydrummer" <rdamon@m...> wrote:

> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "pair6s" <pair6s@y...> wrote:
> > If not too much trouble, can you please post the markings on the 
> chip 
> > in this forum or post a snap shot of it?  This way, someone can 
> > determine if the chips are even pin compatible.  Thanks.
> > 
> There are photos in the photos section under "Inside the 
> dtxpress\dtxpuII" photo album of the inside of the module. The chip 
> is the long black one in the center bottom of the module.
> 
> OGD

> pair6s wrote: "if you would, please post larger picture of the chip or
> just 
> post the markings on the chip in this discussion forum.  Thanks in 
> advance."
> 
> I don't mind taking another pic. Could you please try one thing first.
> When you go to the photos section, you can click on the thumbnail to get a
> picture about a half of a screens worth, if you click on that half size
> picture you will get a picture that will fill up you screen and then some.
> The pins can be counted (42) from the picture, which is how large the
> photo can be view when it is view at full size. Look at the second photo,
> the chip is up and to the right of the battery. One end of it is partially
> covered by the cables, but I can see the number 21 at the right bottom pin
> position.
> 
> I look at the markings on the original and the new chips and post the
> numbers tomorrow. 
> 
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--- oldguydrummer wrote:
> ... if you click on that half size picture you will
> get a picture that will fill up you screen ...

Really? Hmm. Doesn't work here. Does it have to be enabled 
somewhere? Or perhaps it does bandwidth detection and disable it if 
you're not on broadband (I'm on ISDN... long story) - must try it 
from work tomorrow.

Stewart

ps. OGD - some of your replies end up all quoted by leading '>' 
characters.

Really Inspector, do you seriously expect me to believe that on 26/8/03
10:51 pm, "rdamon@..." <rdamon@...> said:

> I don't mind taking another pic. Could you please try one thing first.
> When you go to the photos section, you can click on the thumbnail to get a
> picture about a half of a screens worth, if you click on that half size
> picture you will get a picture that will fill up you screen and then some.

I was going to ask about how you get the biggest picture, but the above
doesn't work on my Mac running OS X, (thumbnail and mid-sized fine, large
size no way), and I tried three different browsers! Obviously this isn't a
problem for this list and I've reported it as a bug. Very frustrating as
some of the labelled pictures are impossible to read.

pb

Really Inspector, do you seriously expect me to believe that on 26/8/03
11:00 pm, "moosetication" <moosetication@...> said:

> --- oldguydrummer wrote:
>> ... if you click on that half size picture you will
>> get a picture that will fill up you screen ...
> 
> Really? Hmm. Doesn't work here. Does it have to be enabled
> somewhere? Or perhaps it does bandwidth detection and disable it if
> you're not on broadband (I'm on ISDN... long story) - must try it
> from work tomorrow.

Not a bandwidth issue as I'm on broadband and can't get the larger sized
picture either. I'll have to try it on our token Dell tomorrow.

pb

> I was going to ask about how you get the biggest picture, but the above
>  doesn't work on my Mac running OS X, (thumbnail and mid-sized fine, large
>  size no way), and I tried three different browsers! Obviously this isn't a
>  problem for this list and I've reported it as a bug. Very frustrating as
>  some of the labelled pictures are impossible to read.

It's probably because the web site is using nonstandard HTML code specifically 
designed for Internet Explorer browsers.  If that's the case, then you should 
lodge a complaint with Yahoo and request that they follow WWW consortium 
standards for HHTML coding, because otherwise, they're discriminating against 
non-I.E. users.  I deal with this all the time...

Stephanie

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...> 
wrote:
> --- oldguydrummer wrote:
> > ... if you click on that half size picture you will
> > get a picture that will fill up you screen ...
> 
> Really? Hmm. Doesn't work here. Does it have to be enabled 
> somewhere? Or perhaps it does bandwidth detection and disable it if 
> you're not on broadband (I'm on ISDN... long story) - must try it 
> from work tomorrow.
> 
> Stewart
> 
> ps. OGD - some of your replies end up all quoted by leading '>' 
> characters.

Sorry, lazyness on my part. The "standard" reply format that is setup 
at the office, uses different font/color/style that I have to delete 
my [name] and change fonts and stuff. So sometimes I just type a 
response in the original message and then hit send and it adds the > 


When I click on the thumbnail, I get a 4"x6" size picture on the 
screen. There is also a "full size" text at the top right hand corner 
of the picture, that I can click to get a full size or I can just 
click on the picture for a full size. 

OGD

> doesn't work on my Mac running OS X, (thumbnail and mid-sized fine, 
large
> size no way), and I tried three different browsers! Obviously this 
isn't a
> problem for this list and I've reported it as a bug. Very 
frustrating as
> some of the labelled pictures are impossible to read.

PB,

I am using windows 2000 pro with Microsoft-IE as a browser and I can 
get the three sizes. I guess this may be a good reason to have photos 
posted to the dtxpressions site, so that the full resolution photos 
can be stored for downloading.

OGD

--- Stephanie wrote:
> It's probably because the web site is using nonstandard
> HTML code specifically designed for Internet Explorer...

Nice theory Tonto, but (a) I'm using IE6 on XP on Intel and (b) 
actually IE is a lot better than it used to be (even though it pains 
me to pay even a back-handed compliment to the bespectacled 
squeakygeek and his evil henchmen).

Stewart

On Tue August 26 2003 5:45 pm, moosetication wrote:
>  --- Stephanie wrote:
>  > It's probably because the web site is using nonstandard
>  > HTML code specifically designed for Internet Explorer...
>
> Nice theory Tonto, but (a) I'm using IE6 on XP on Intel and (b)
> actually IE is a lot better than it used to be (even though it pains
> me to pay even a back-handed compliment to the bespectacled
> squeakygeek and his evil henchmen).

Wait, are you the same person who couldn't get the pics to go full screen?

Actually, I'm talking about the fact some some web sites don't work with 
browsers like Opera, Netscape, Mozilla, etc.  One example is Cisco's student 
web site, which will not show certain things in a student's grade book page, 
and the I.E. browser is the only one allowed in which the chapter tests will 
load correctly (in my case, Mozilla just sits there after I click on the 
"continue to test" button).

Stephanie

--- Stephanie wrote:
> Wait, are you the same person who couldn't get
> the pics to go full screen?

One of 'em, yes.

Tried Opera too (identifying itself as anything other than IE) and 
still no dice. It's not the browser's HTML renderer - the source 
does not show the "screen size" picture as a link to the full size, 
it's just a table row definition with an image in it. Clearly I am 
being discriminated against because I'm a Brit.

Anyhow, enough. I shall pester the alleged helpdesk at Yahoo. Back 
to our scheduled program, "hitting things with sticks for fun and 
profit."

Stewart

OGD, if you would, please post larger picture of the chip or just 
> post the markings on the chip in this discussion forum.  Thanks in 
> advance.


The original IC chip in the dtxpressII:

Part no. X302310

Other numbers on the chip itself:

m27c160
100f1
58850
ST  0042k
singapore



The upgraded IC chip in the dtxpressII:

Part no. x3023200

No other markings on the chip.


The chip is a 42 pin.


Has anyone with the original dtxpressI opened it up to compare the 
internal arrangement to the photos in the photo gallery for the 
dtxpressII?
I will send an email to Yamaha support asking the question of 
compatibility, but I think we all know what the answer is going to be.

If it were just a matter of replacing this chip to get the 3-zone 
cabability, then I would not have a problem with sending my original 
chips to a fellow member.

Gee, if everybody here that has the dtxpressII, were to send off for 
the upgrade chip, then take the original IC chip and send it to a 
fellow member that has the dtxpressI module???? 
What a concept, everybody wins.

OGD

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moosetication said:

> --- Stephanie wrote:
>> It's probably because the web site is using nonstandard
>> HTML code specifically designed for Internet Explorer...
>
> Nice theory Tonto, but (a) I'm using IE6 on XP on Intel and (b)
> actually IE is a lot better than it used to be (even though it pains
> me to pay even a back-handed compliment to the bespectacled
> squeakygeek and his evil henchmen).
>
> Stewart
>
>
>
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I should have the pictures of the internals from the original 
DTXpress posted sometime this weekend (or sooner).


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "oldguydrummer" <rdamon@m...> wrote:
> Has anyone with the original dtxpressI opened it up to compare the 
> internal arrangement to the photos in the photo gallery for the 
> dtxpressII?
> I will send an email to Yamaha support asking the question of 
> compatibility, but I think we all know what the answer is going to 
be.
> 
> If it were just a matter of replacing this chip to get the 3-zone 
> cabability, then I would not have a problem with sending my 
original 
> chips to a fellow member.
> 
> Gee, if everybody here that has the dtxpressII, were to send off 
for 

> the upgrade chip, then take the original IC chip and send it to a 
> fellow member that has the dtxpressI module???? 
> What a concept, everybody wins.
> 
> OGD

Hi Vern:

I use all the apps you mentioned on my machine at home.

Stephanie

pair6s wrote: "I should have the pictures of the internals from the original

> DTXpress posted sometime this weekend (or sooner)."
> 
pair6s,

I have sent an email to Yamaha Support, regarding using the dtxpressII chip
in the dtxpress1. It generally takes a day for them to get it and send a
confirmation email and then 2-3 days for an actually reply. So maybe my
Monday of next week I'll have thier reply to post here.

OGD
 
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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> I have sent an email to Yamaha Support, regarding using the 
dtxpressII chip
> in the dtxpress1. 

Wow, what a quick response back from Yamaha. Yamaha's response:

"That would not work because the motherboard is totally different.
 
YCA Support"

But it was worth asking the question.

OGD