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DrumXtreme/Soul

DrumXtreme/Soul

2003-09-24 by Khew's Magix

Paul,
Sorry I got into this conversation a little late, but from the two links you mentioned, I gather these are the SAME products with different names to them?
Which is which then? Or is DrumXtreme an OEM of Bafo Soul Drum?
Thanks
Khew
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On Tuesday, September 23, 2003, at 05:44 pm, Vernon Graner wrote:

> You might want to look at this to see if it might be more in the price
> range you are able to afford:
>
> http://www.usb-shop.com/products/product40.html
>
> Though really not a "professional" kit, it would allow you to see if
> edrums are what you're interested in before you make the investment. :)

A little OT this, but there's is a curious conflict of marketing going
on with this cheapie USB electronic kit as it appears to be being
marketed by two different companies, under two different names, but
with the same publicity photos and same price! Haven't seen this kit in
the UK yet but we're so far behind in product being available
(min-EMADs, J1s, Pearl stackers, Camber stackers etc etc - I'm sure you
get the picture) that it's not at all surprising.

You can check out the two kits here:

Bafo 'Soul'
<http://www.bafo.com/bafo/productslists.asp?foproduct_id=862>
Pacific Digital 'DrumXtreme' <http://www.pacificdigital.com/>

I emailed both companies asking what was going on but surprise,
surprise got no answer. Nor did Rhythm follow up on it when I pointed
it out to them - good to know the drum press are solidly behind the
consumer isn't it! :-)

Re: [DTXpress] DrumXtreme/Soul

2003-09-24 by Paul Bentley

On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 07:07  am, Khew's Magix wrote:

> Sorry I got into this conversation a little late, but from the two 
> links you mentioned, I gather these are the SAME products with 
> different names to them?
> Which is which then? Or is DrumXtreme an OEM of Bafo Soul Drum?

I've absolutely no idea what's going on. From photographs at both web 
sites the kits look like one and the same thing to me. The specs are 
identical, and the price is the same. As I said I've emailed both 
companies to ask what the situation is, but got no reply from either of 
them. I also brought this curious situation to the attention of our UK 
drum press and was ignored by them too. So your guess is as good as 
mine on this one!

pb

Re: DrumXtreme/Soul

2003-09-24 by liberatusvirus

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bentley <pb@w...> wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 07:07  am, Khew's Magix wrote:
> 
> > Sorry I got into this conversation a little late, but from the 
two 
> > links you mentioned, I gather these are the SAME products with 
> > different names to them?
> > Which is which then? Or is DrumXtreme an OEM of Bafo Soul Drum?
> 
> I've absolutely no idea what's going on. From photographs at both 
web 
> sites the kits look like one and the same thing to me. The specs 
are 
> identical, and the price is the same. As I said I've emailed both 
> companies to ask what the situation is, but got no reply from 
either of 
> them. I also brought this curious situation to the attention of our 
UK 
> drum press and was ignored by them too. So your guess is as good as 
> mine on this one!

I wonder what one of these companies would say if someone asked to do 
a review of this kit for a list of 800 drummers ( and their husbands, 
wives, girlfriends, boyfriends, children, etc.) who require numerous 
electronic tools for practice and performance (insert smiley face 
here, then change it to a quizzical face with a light bulb over its 
head).

Ed

RE: [DTXpress] Re: DrumXtreme/Soul

2003-09-24 by Creighton Higgins

Here's an article on these drums:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,111377,00.asp
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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Paul Bentley <pb@w...> wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 07:07  am, Khew's Magix wrote:
>
> > Sorry I got into this conversation a little late, but from the
two
> > links you mentioned, I gather these are the SAME products with
> > different names to them?
> > Which is which then? Or is DrumXtreme an OEM of Bafo Soul Drum?
>
> I've absolutely no idea what's going on. From photographs at both
web
> sites the kits look like one and the same thing to me. The specs
are
> identical, and the price is the same. As I said I've emailed both
> companies to ask what the situation is, but got no reply from
either of
> them. I also brought this curious situation to the attention of our
UK
> drum press and was ignored by them too. So your guess is as good as
> mine on this one!

I wonder what one of these companies would say if someone asked to do
a review of this kit for a list of 800 drummers ( and their husbands,
wives, girlfriends, boyfriends, children, etc.) who require numerous
electronic tools for practice and performance (insert smiley face
here, then change it to a quizzical face with a light bulb over its
head).

Ed



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Re: DrumXtreme/Soul

2003-09-24 by liberatusvirus

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Creighton Higgins" <creighton@l...> 
wrote:
> Here's an article on these drums:
> http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,111377,00.asp

Creighton,

Nice find. But since PC World ain't staffed with drummers, the 
information isn't fully credible. Granted, this kit is aimed at 
beginners and possible practice under strained condtions for more 
seasoned users, but some of the points that the article makes don't 
seem to understand the strides that e-drums have made. A review from 
an actual e-drummer's perspective might be valuable, to someone at 
least. Specifically, how much distance is there between this kit and 
entry-level kits for serious drummers?

Ed

RE: [DTXpress] Re: DrumXtreme/Soul

2003-09-24 by Creighton Higgins

Hi Ed,

I agree: A review of a drum set by a PC magazine is pretty useless, like
Cosmo reviewing cars. The set is evidently just another input device like a
keyboard or a web cam. I find it interesting that distributor chose to
provide a PC magazine with a test kit.

The most glaring absence in the kit seems to be a hi-hat pedal and the
reviewer didn't seem to notice. I see that one is offered as an option, but
golly it seems to be a basic item. I know it's a poor craftsman who blames
his tools, but my sense is that this pretty close to the drum sets they sell
at Toys R Us.

Creighton

(after a week with no power, I am drumming again)
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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Creighton Higgins" <creighton@l...>
wrote:
> Here's an article on these drums:
> http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,111377,00.asp

Creighton,

Nice find. But since PC World ain't staffed with drummers, the
information isn't fully credible. Granted, this kit is aimed at
beginners and possible practice under strained condtions for more
seasoned users, but some of the points that the article makes don't
seem to understand the strides that e-drums have made. A review from
an actual e-drummer's perspective might be valuable, to someone at
least. Specifically, how much distance is there between this kit and
entry-level kits for serious drummers?

Ed



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RE: [DTXpress] Re: DrumXtreme/Soul

2003-09-24 by Theguy Withnoeye

Hi,
Due to the low price of this drums, what interest me
is if they can be used with my dtxpress module :P, I
mean for 99 dlls I'd be happy to buy the kit take the
two pads that I can add, to the module and sell the
rest of it.

But I can't spend the money just to try my luck, I got
a mortage to pay, and I also have to buy my wife a
nice present for letting me buy the kit :D

So anyone who feels like experimenting with this
please share your findings.

Pedro.




--- Creighton Higgins <creighton@...>
wrote:
> Hi Ed,
> 
> I agree: A review of a drum set by a PC magazine is
> pretty useless, like
> Cosmo reviewing cars. The set is evidently just
> another input device like a
> keyboard or a web cam. I find it interesting that
> distributor chose to
> provide a PC magazine with a test kit.
> 
> The most glaring absence in the kit seems to be a
> hi-hat pedal and the
> reviewer didn't seem to notice. I see that one is
> offered as an option, but
> golly it seems to be a basic item. I know it's a
> poor craftsman who blames
> his tools, but my sense is that this pretty close to
> the drum sets they sell
> at Toys R Us.
> 
> Creighton
> 
> (after a week with no power, I am drumming again)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: liberatusvirus
> [mailto:liberatusvirus@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:19 PM
> To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DTXpress] Re: DrumXtreme/Soul
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Creighton Higgins"
> <creighton@l...>
> wrote:
> > Here's an article on these drums:
> >
>
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,111377,00.asp
> 
> Creighton,
> 
> Nice find. But since PC World ain't staffed with
> drummers, the
> information isn't fully credible. Granted, this kit
> is aimed at
> beginners and possible practice under strained
> condtions for more
> seasoned users, but some of the points that the
> article makes don't
> seem to understand the strides that e-drums have
> made. A review from
> an actual e-drummer's perspective might be valuable,
> to someone at
> least. Specifically, how much distance is there
> between this kit and
> entry-level kits for serious drummers?
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
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Re: DrumXtreme/Soul/Future Reviews

2003-09-24 by liberatusvirus

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Theguy Withnoeye 
<theguywithnoeye@y...> wrote:
> Hi,
> Due to the low price of this drums, what interest me
> is if they can be used with my dtxpress module :P, I
> mean for 99 dlls I'd be happy to buy the kit take the
> two pads that I can add, to the module and sell the
> rest of it.
> 
> But I can't spend the money just to try my luck, I got
> a mortage to pay, and I also have to buy my wife a
> nice present for letting me buy the kit :D
> 
> So anyone who feels like experimenting with this
> please share your findings.

Hi Pedro,

We have just started a program of reviews, dependent on the 
cooperation of companies and the availability/ability of members to 
do them. Right now we have a review of select new equipment from 
Pintech in the works (thanks to member Stephen and Brian LaRue, who 
runs the company). We also have something percolating with  
components from Koby, a British maker of e-drums and cymbals, if not 
with the actual participation of Colin Schofield--Koby's head man-- 
apparently with his knowledge and blessing. Anyone who has 
suggestions for possible reviews, either on his/her own, or by having 
us contact a manufacturer, please post them. Reviewing this little 
kit might be possible and worthwhile. 

Ed

Re: DrumXtreme/Soul/Future Reviews

2003-09-25 by sheicopimenta

I'll tell you my view on that : do you really enjoy playing drums? 
I am asking that, because I love it. Unfortunatelly not all the 
neibours enjoy that, so I had to look into electronic drumming. 
Realized that, when it comes to e-drums price is really tied up with 
quality. 
Example : after researching I decided for the Hart Dynamics Mega-
Pro - positional sensing for all pads, dual trigger and wonderful 
looking snare, ride cymbal w/bell (dual trigger), crash cymbal 
w/choke. Unfortunatelly bought a DMPRO : some good samples, 
specially effects etc but no positional sensing, not so "user-
friendly" , I would better go with the Roland TD-8 and guess why I 
did not choose that module? Price ...... at the moment I purchase 
it, about 300 hundred bucks more.... 
But now after extensive playing and really eager to model my sounds 
(Roland has the COSM!!!!! I tried it in Guitar Center Miami and 
AW !!!!! ) have the positional sensing I will have to go on that 
anyway. 
So please, if you are planning to upgrade your kit or  buy a new one 
do the right thing : satisfy your needs if you really enjoy 
drumming !!!!!!  

Tell your wife it is gonna be a unique experience in your life, you 
dont wanna get headaches and be in bad mood, that if you buy a 
inferior model it won't be something to get rid of easilly .... I 
did with mine and worked...... now I am going to buy my TD-8 and use 
the DMPRO just for special FX... 

Hope this would help 

Sheico 





--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Theguy Withnoeye 
> <theguywithnoeye@y...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Due to the low price of this drums, what interest me
> > is if they can be used with my dtxpress module :P, I
> > mean for 99 dlls I'd be happy to buy the kit take the
> > two pads that I can add, to the module and sell the
> > rest of it.
> > 
> > But I can't spend the money just to try my luck, I got
> > a mortage to pay, and I also have to buy my wife a
> > nice present for letting me buy the kit :D
> > 
> > So anyone who feels like experimenting with this
> > please share your findings.
> 
> Hi Pedro,
> 
> We have just started a program of reviews, dependent on the 
> cooperation of companies and the availability/ability of members 
to 
> do them. Right now we have a review of select new equipment from 
> Pintech in the works (thanks to member Stephen and Brian LaRue, 
who 
> runs the company). We also have something percolating with  
> components from Koby, a British maker of e-drums and cymbals, if 
not 
> with the actual participation of Colin Schofield--Koby's head man--
 
> apparently with his knowledge and blessing. Anyone who has 
> suggestions for possible reviews, either on his/her own, or by 
having 
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> us contact a manufacturer, please post them. Reviewing this little 
> kit might be possible and worthwhile. 
> 
> Ed

Re: DrumXtreme/Soul/Future Reviews

2003-09-25 by liberatusvirus

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "sheicopimenta" <sheicopimenta@y...> 
wrote:
> I'll tell you my view on that : do you really enjoy playing drums? 
> I am asking that, because I love it. Unfortunatelly not all the 
> neibours enjoy that, so I had to look into electronic drumming. 
> Realized that, when it comes to e-drums price is really tied up 
with 
> quality. 
> Example : after researching I decided for the Hart Dynamics Mega-
> Pro - positional sensing for all pads, dual trigger and wonderful 
> looking snare, ride cymbal w/bell (dual trigger), crash cymbal 
> w/choke. Unfortunatelly bought a DMPRO : some good samples, 
> specially effects etc but no positional sensing, not so "user-
> friendly" , I would better go with the Roland TD-8 and guess why I 
> did not choose that module? Price ...... at the moment I purchase 
> it, about 300 hundred bucks more.... 
> But now after extensive playing and really eager to model my sounds 
> (Roland has the COSM!!!!! I tried it in Guitar Center Miami and 
> AW !!!!! ) have the positional sensing I will have to go on that 
> anyway. 
> So please, if you are planning to upgrade your kit or  buy a new 
one 
> do the right thing : satisfy your needs if you really enjoy 
> drumming !!!!!!  
> 
> Tell your wife it is gonna be a unique experience in your life, you 
> dont wanna get headaches and be in bad mood, that if you buy a 
> inferior model it won't be something to get rid of easilly .... I 
> did with mine and worked...... now I am going to buy my TD-8 and 
 
Sheico,

Those are good points. But I certainly don't think that anyone who 
already has, or is contemplating, a serious electronic drumkit like 
the DTXpress is going to benefit at all from the DrumXtreme instead, 
except under Xtreme duress. But people who use products like the 
DTXpress have children who might be interested in drumming, summer 
houses or offices where having something, anything, to play might be 
important, etc. Reviews about what a particular product can do are 
always potentially helpful. You, for example, bought a high-end Hart 
kit and matched it with the DM-Pro, which couldn't take advantage of 
all the Hart's features. Just think how much trouble you would have 
saved if information about a variety of products were located in one 
convenient location, not a store's advertising database (which can be 
helpful) but the archives of a bunch of like-minded and like-budgeted 
drummers. Maybe you would have bought the TD-8 sooner. Maybe you 
wouldn't buy the TD-8 at all if information about other products were 
available to intrigue you. Notwithstanding Roland's prices, which are 
inflated, not everyone is enthralled with COSM, or the level of 
programming that the Roland modules entail, which some people view as 
largely a corruption of the original samples. Clavia's ddrum 
technology, for example, is built on an entirely different principle, 
in which the samples that provide positional sensing and pressure 
sensitivity, as well as velocity, crossfading, and other effects, 
come from multisampling per se rather than from tinkering digitally 
with sound waves. The resulting module, and voices, are quite 
different. I think there's a good case to be made for being informed, 
at least to some extent, about what the offerings are at all levels 
before buying.

Ed

Re: DrumXtreme/Soul/Future Reviews

2003-09-25 by sheicopimenta

Sorry ED , 

I think you did not get my point !!!!! I am not bad-mouthering the 
DTXPress ...... far from that ... that is why I am in the group : to 
learn with everybody's opinions and discussions !!!! And so far as I 
am aware of the DTXPRESS is really reliable and carries the logo 
YAMAHA on that ..... 
What I am saying that, in the same manner I was a little bit 
disapopinted with the DMPRO (  BETWEEN YOU AND ME : IT IS THE HIGH-
END MODULE FOR ALESIS!!!!!!!!!!) , buying a electroninc kit worth 
around US$ 299.00 may be, I repeat MAY BE , a waste of money ... 
unless as you said some kid is interested to learn etc etc ...... 
Maybe I was fooled by any review about the DMPRO , ut so FAR I DID 
NOT HAVE NY PROBLEM ..... DON'T KNOW WHY YOU SAID QUOTE HOW MUCH 
TROUBLE I COULD HAVE SAVED  - I DID NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE 
DMPRO !!!!  will use the DMPRO as my second module using it for 
percussion sound, FX etc .  
The lnly thing I regret : I should have bought the TD-8 first. 

I point out again : not bad-mouthing DTXPRESS !!!!!!! But i don't 
get  the benefit of getting a DRUMXTREME ..... unless teaching your 
child about drums ..... 

Meanwhile, congratulations on the group !!! The discussions are very 
good !! Very active group w/ nice feedback! 

Sheico P. 



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "sheicopimenta" 
<sheicopimenta@y...> 
> wrote:
> > I'll tell you my view on that : do you really enjoy playing 
drums? 
> > I am asking that, because I love it. Unfortunatelly not all the 
> > neibours enjoy that, so I had to look into electronic drumming. 
> > Realized that, when it comes to e-drums price is really tied up 
> with 
> > quality. 
> > Example : after researching I decided for the Hart Dynamics Mega-
> > Pro - positional sensing for all pads, dual trigger and 
wonderful 
> > looking snare, ride cymbal w/bell (dual trigger), crash cymbal 
> > w/choke. Unfortunatelly bought a DMPRO : some good samples, 
> > specially effects etc but no positional sensing, not so "user-
> > friendly" , I would better go with the Roland TD-8 and guess why 
I 
> > did not choose that module? Price ...... at the moment I 
purchase 
> > it, about 300 hundred bucks more.... 
> > But now after extensive playing and really eager to model my 
sounds 
> > (Roland has the COSM!!!!! I tried it in Guitar Center Miami and 
> > AW !!!!! ) have the positional sensing I will have to go on that 
> > anyway. 
> > So please, if you are planning to upgrade your kit or  buy a new 
> one 
> > do the right thing : satisfy your needs if you really enjoy 
> > drumming !!!!!!  
> > 
> > Tell your wife it is gonna be a unique experience in your life, 
you 
> > dont wanna get headaches and be in bad mood, that if you buy a 
> > inferior model it won't be something to get rid of easilly .... 
I 
> > did with mine and worked...... now I am going to buy my TD-8 and 
>  
> Sheico,
> 
> Those are good points. But I certainly don't think that anyone who 
> already has, or is contemplating, a serious electronic drumkit 
like 
> the DTXpress is going to benefit at all from the DrumXtreme 
instead, 
> except under Xtreme duress. But people who use products like the 
> DTXpress have children who might be interested in drumming, summer 
> houses or offices where having something, anything, to play might 
be 
> important, etc. Reviews about what a particular product can do are 
> always potentially helpful. You, for example, bought a high-end 
Hart 
> kit and matched it with the DM-Pro, which couldn't take advantage 
of 
> all the Hart's features. Just think how much trouble you would 
have 
> saved if information about a variety of products were located in 
one 
> convenient location, not a store's advertising database (which can 
be 
> helpful) but the archives of a bunch of like-minded and like-
budgeted 
> drummers. Maybe you would have bought the TD-8 sooner. Maybe you 
> wouldn't buy the TD-8 at all if information about other products 
were 
> available to intrigue you. Notwithstanding Roland's prices, which 
are 
> inflated, not everyone is enthralled with COSM, or the level of 
> programming that the Roland modules entail, which some people view 
as 
> largely a corruption of the original samples. Clavia's ddrum 
> technology, for example, is built on an entirely different 
principle, 
> in which the samples that provide positional sensing and pressure 
> sensitivity, as well as velocity, crossfading, and other effects, 
> come from multisampling per se rather than from tinkering 
digitally 
> with sound waves. The resulting module, and voices, are quite 
> different. I think there's a good case to be made for being 
informed, 
> at least to some extent, about what the offerings are at all 
levels 
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> before buying.
> 
> Ed

Re: DrumXtreme/Soul/Future Reviews

2003-09-25 by liberatusvirus

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "sheicopimenta" <sheicopimenta@y...> 
wrote:
> Sorry ED , 
> 
> I think you did not get my point !!!!! I am not bad-mouthering the 
> DTXPress ...... far from that ... that is why I am in the group : 

Sheico,

I didn't think that you were bad-mouthing the DTXpress, Yamaha, or 
the group. I agree with you about the cheap kit. My point was that 
assembling as much information as possible about what's available is 
a worthy goal. Right now, it's all either scattered or completely 
unavailable. Many people have to buy their e-drums without listening 
to them first, let alone get unbiased, firsthand information about 
them. We welcome discussion of all products here. Hell, my kit is 
ddrum, Pintech, Visulite, Drumtech, Pearl, and Yamaha, as well as 
odds and ends from other assorted companies. At one time or another, 
I've also owned Roland and Hart components. The people on this board 
are constantly demonstrating their openness, their politeness, and 
their range of experience and knowledge. We don't take offense, and 
we try not to give it.

Ed

RE: [DTXpress] Re: DrumXtreme/Soul/Future Reviews

2003-09-25 by rdamon@mckinney-usa.com

Ed,

Sorry to come into this at the tail end of the conversation, been a little
tied up lately.
Wasn't this the same kit that was reviewed on (I believe) CNN? There was a
non-drummer (thier technology review guru) and an actual drummer that worked
at CNN that did a little demo of it on one of their morning broadcasts and
the video of it was available on their web site as well for you viewing
pleasure. From what I remember, it was presented as a kit for the
kids/beginner or something to take to the office and play with at you lunch
break. Even the non-drummer technology guru guy picked up on it not being a
serious kit for a real drummer.

OGD

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> Subject:	[DTXpress] Re: DrumXtreme/Soul/Future Reviews
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "sheicopimenta" <sheicopimenta@y...> 
> wrote:
> > Sorry ED , 
> > 
> > I think you did not get my point !!!!! I am not bad-mouthering the 
> > DTXPress ...... far from that ... that is why I am in the group : 
> 
> Sheico,
> 
> I didn't think that you were bad-mouthing the DTXpress, Yamaha, or 
> the group. I agree with you about the cheap kit. My point was that 
> assembling as much information as possible about what's available is 
> a worthy goal. Right now, it's all either scattered or completely 
> unavailable. Many people have to buy their e-drums without listening 
> to them first, let alone get unbiased, firsthand information about 
> them. We welcome discussion of all products here. Hell, my kit is 
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Re: DrumXtreme/Soul/Future Reviews

2003-09-25 by sheicopimenta

Ed, 

I think that now is clear for me how serious this group  is !!!!
I do not take offense, and never try  to give it. 
Congratulations on the group once again ... I wish Hart group was as 
active as this one ...... 
 
Sheico 




--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> Ed,
> 
> Sorry to come into this at the tail end of the conversation, been 
a little
> tied up lately.
> Wasn't this the same kit that was reviewed on (I believe) CNN? 
There was a
> non-drummer (thier technology review guru) and an actual drummer 
that worked
> at CNN that did a little demo of it on one of their morning 
broadcasts and
> the video of it was available on their web site as well for you 
viewing
> pleasure. From what I remember, it was presented as a kit for the
> kids/beginner or something to take to the office and play with at 
you lunch
> break. Even the non-drummer technology guru guy picked up on it 
not being a
> serious kit for a real drummer.
> 
> OGD
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	liberatusvirus [SMTP:liberatusvirus@y...]
> > Sent:	Thursday, September 25, 2003 3:50 PM
> > To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:	[DTXpress] Re: DrumXtreme/Soul/Future Reviews
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "sheicopimenta" 
<sheicopimenta@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > Sorry ED , 
> > > 
> > > I think you did not get my point !!!!! I am not bad-mouthering 
the 
> > > DTXPress ...... far from that ... that is why I am in the 
group : 
> > 
> > Sheico,
> > 
> > I didn't think that you were bad-mouthing the DTXpress, Yamaha, 
or 
> > the group. I agree with you about the cheap kit. My point was 
that 
> > assembling as much information as possible about what's 
available is 
> > a worthy goal. Right now, it's all either scattered or 
completely 
> > unavailable. Many people have to buy their e-drums without 
listening 
> > to them first, let alone get unbiased, firsthand information 
about 
> > them. We welcome discussion of all products here. Hell, my kit 
is 
> > ddrum, Pintech, Visulite, Drumtech, Pearl, and Yamaha, as well 
as 
> > odds and ends from other assorted companies. At one time or 
another, 
> > I've also owned Roland and Hart components. The people on this 
board 
> > are constantly demonstrating their openness, their politeness, 
and 
> > their range of experience and knowledge. We don't take offense, 
and 
> > we try not to give it.
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
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Re: DrumXtreme/Soul/Future Reviews

2003-09-25 by liberatusvirus

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> Ed,
> 
> Sorry to come into this at the tail end of the conversation, been a 
little
> tied up lately.
> Wasn't this the same kit that was reviewed on (I believe) CNN? 
There was a
> non-drummer (thier technology review guru) and an actual drummer 
that worked
> at CNN that did a little demo of it on one of their morning 
broadcasts and
> the video of it was available on their web site as well for you 
viewing
> pleasure. From what I remember, it was presented as a kit for the
> kids/beginner or something to take to the office and play with at 
you lunch
> break. Even the non-drummer technology guru guy picked up on it not 
being a
> serious kit for a real drummer.

OGD,

I wish I'd seen that. Now I'm curious about this little thing, kinda 
like wanting to see a movie that isn't really all that good but fun 
anyway. I wonder what attracted the CNN crowd to it, the price, the 
ease of use, the novelty?  What great publicity, though. I bet it 
flies off the shelves at Christmas. Beats the pants off all those 
kid's drums at Toys R Us. 

Ed

Ed

Re: DrumXtreme/Soul/Future Reviews

2003-09-25 by yoavf21

> OGD,
> 
> I wish I'd seen that. Now I'm curious about this little thing, 
kinda 
> like wanting to see a movie that isn't really all that good but 
fun 
> anyway. I wonder what attracted the CNN crowd to it, the price, 
the 
> ease of use, the novelty?  What great publicity, though. I bet it 
> flies off the shelves at Christmas. Beats the pants off all those 
> kid's drums at Toys R Us. 
> 
> Ed
> 


Not cnn, NBC
http://www.pacificdigital.com/media/dx-nbc.htm

Re: DrumXtreme/Soul/Future Reviews

2003-09-25 by yoavf21

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> yoavf21, 
> 
> Thanks for remembering the correct channel it was on. I not named 
an OLDGUY
> for nothing. The memory is good but selective sometimes.
> 
> OGD
> 
>

:) - I think that also tells us who's the real manufacturer - since 
Pacific Digital were the one featured on national TV, they must be 
the "real" thing...

RE: [DTXpress] Re: DrumXtreme/Soul/Future Reviews

2003-09-25 by rdamon@mckinney-usa.com

yoavf21, 

Thanks for remembering the correct channel it was on. I not named an OLDGUY
for nothing. The memory is good but selective sometimes.

OGD

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> Sent:	Thursday, September 25, 2003 4:30 PM
> To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	[DTXpress] Re: DrumXtreme/Soul/Future Reviews
> 
> > OGD,
> > 
> > I wish I'd seen that. Now I'm curious about this little thing, 
> kinda 
> > like wanting to see a movie that isn't really all that good but 
> fun 
> > anyway. I wonder what attracted the CNN crowd to it, the price, 
> the 
> > ease of use, the novelty?   What great publicity, though. I bet it 
> > flies off the shelves at Christmas. Beats the pants off all those 
> > kid's drums at Toys R Us. 
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> 
> 
> Not cnn, NBC
> <http://www.pacificdigital.com/media/dx-nbc.htm>
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: DrumXtreme/Soul/Future Reviews

2003-09-25 by liberatusvirus

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "yoavf21" <yoavf21@y...> wrote:
> Not cnn, NBC
> http://www.pacificdigital.com/media/dx-nbc.htm

That was a cool demo. Making a point of "a slight delay" with 
electronic drums as opposed to acoustic was a little weird--maybe a 3 
ms latency, which is no big whoop, even for a purist out for blood--
when so much else could be said, pro or con. (Picky, picky, picky. 
OGD may be forgetful, but I'm a curmudgeon.) Anyway, he obviously 
hasn't tried ddrum.

Re: [DTXpress] Re: DrumXtreme/Soul/Future Reviews

2003-09-25 by Vernon Graner

<SILLY>

liberatusvirus said:
> <SNIP>We don't take offense, and
> we try not to give it.

Although, on some occasions, some people rudely insist on just TAKING it
without even asking! No manners..... :D

</SILLY>

Vern

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RE: [DTXpress] Re: DrumXtreme/Soul/Future Reviews

2003-09-25 by Vernon Graner

rdamon@... said:
> yoavf21,
>
> Thanks for remembering the correct channel it was on. I not named an
> OLDGUY
> for nothing. The memory is good but selective sometimes.
>
> OGD

uh oh, could be you have the C-Nlie virus!!

http://hoaxinfo.com/cnile.htm

:)

Vern

(thats twice I've posted with nothing really to say.. man its boring at
work today... :P)

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My bizarre use for my DTXpress module!

2003-09-25 by Vernon Graner

Ok, here's the plan so far:

I'm doing a big haunt this year in the front yard of my house,
culminating in a two story tall castle tower complete with a dungeon door
with a "speak-easy" type sliding window (about 12"x24") in the center of
the door. Beneath the window is a big old-time looking door knocker (no
knockers jokes please, yes I saw Young Frankenstein... "Frau Blucher!"
--extra points if you whinny here!) :) that I have placed where the
knocker impacts with a small square of wood. Beneath this wood block, I
mounted a piezo element. This piezo is then connected via wire through a
hole cut in the door to the DTXpress module inside the house. The module
in turn goes to a 16 channel mixer and then to a 400 watt amp to four 12"
speakers placed around the outside of the house.

When someone knocks using the knocker, the DTXpress will make a *very*
low tom with a HUGE reverb sound, makes for a very convincing "BOOM BOOM"
type knock that is more than a bit unnerving. Combine this with the
stormy night rain/wind/thunder track and the Midnight Syndicate music and
you've got some scary approach to the door!

Of course, when the sliding widow slams open and the animatronic skull
pops up and talks to the trick-or-treators and then gives candy from a
gaunt hand, even the boldest of tricker-or-treators should be cringing!

 :) Just thought u guys would be entertained by the use of the module...
I'm also gunna experiment with the sounds in the module to see if I can
get "thunder on demand" using a midi keyboard and some of the internal
sounds.. Ok, off to experiment! :)

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Re: [DTXpress] Re: DrumXtreme/Soul/Future Reviews

2003-09-26 by spam acct

It looks to me that Pacific Digital sells the kit while Bafo Technologies, which is a Taiwan-based company, is the manufacturer.
Khew
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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> yoavf21,
>
> Thanks for remembering the correct channel it was on. I not named
an OLDGUY
> for nothing. The memory is good but selective sometimes.
>
> OGD
>
>

:) - I think that also tells us who's the real manufacturer - since
Pacific Digital were the one featured on national TV, they must be
the "real" thing...

Re: My bizarre use for my DTXpress module!

2003-09-26 by moosetication

Vern wrote:
> I'm doing a big haunt this year...
> When someone knocks using the knocker, the DTXpress
> will make a *very* low tom with a HUGE reverb sound...

B-)

I do like a man who takes pride in his work.

Stewart

Re: My bizarre use for my DTXpress module!

2003-09-26 by brown8700

Ya know, I've got some extra triggers lying around. Maybe I ought to 
get to work on something.

There are a lot of sounds in the EFEECTS catalog that could make for 
some pretty scared little kiddos!

RE: [DTXpress] My bizarre use for my DTXpress module!

2003-09-26 by rdamon@mckinney-usa.com

Vern,

I (with the help of neighbors and wife) have been setting up our front yard
with Halloween walk-throughs for the past couple of years. Last year we
setup two 10'x10' canopys and one 10'x20' canopy that people would walk
thru. I would be more than happy to send you some photos of some of the
things we have done and then maybe you could send some of your photos.

OGD

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Vernon Graner [SMTP:vern@...]
> Sent:	Thursday, September 25, 2003 6:50 PM
> To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	[DTXpress] My bizarre use for my DTXpress module!
> 
> Ok, here's the plan so far:
> 
> I'm doing a big haunt this year in the front yard of my house,
> culminating in a two story tall castle tower complete with a dungeon door
> with a "speak-easy" type sliding window (about 12"x24") in the center of
> the door. Beneath the window is a big old-time looking door knocker (no
> knockers jokes please, yes I saw Young Frankenstein... "Frau Blucher!"
> --extra points if you whinny here!) :) that I have placed where the
> knocker impacts with a small square of wood. Beneath this wood block, I
> mounted a piezo element. This piezo is then connected via wire through a
> hole cut in the door to the DTXpress module inside the house. The module
> in turn goes to a 16 channel mixer and then to a 400 watt amp to four 12"
> speakers placed around the outside of the house.
> 
> When someone knocks using the knocker, the DTXpress will make a *very*
> low tom with a HUGE reverb sound, makes for a very convincing "BOOM BOOM"
> type knock that is more than a bit unnerving. Combine this with the
> stormy night rain/wind/thunder track and the Midnight Syndicate music and
> you've got some scary approach to the door!
> 
> Of course, when the sliding widow slams open and the animatronic skull
> pops up and talks to the trick-or-treators and then gives candy from a
> gaunt hand, even the boldest of tricker-or-treators should be cringing!
> 
> :) Just thought u guys would be entertained by the use of the module...
> I'm also gunna experiment with the sounds in the module to see if I can
> get "thunder on demand" using a midi keyboard and some of the internal
> sounds.. Ok, off to experiment! :)
> 
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RE: [DTXpress] My bizarre use for my DTXpress module!

2003-09-26 by Vernon Graner

I'd liove to see some pics! Here's what I've got:

http://www.mugbbs.com/tower

So far so good! :)

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rdamon@... said:
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> Vern,
>
> I (with the help of neighbors and wife) have been setting up our front
> yard
> with Halloween walk-throughs for the past couple of years. Last year we
> setup two 10'x10' canopys and one 10'x20' canopy that people would walk
> thru. I would be more than happy to send you some photos of some of the
> things we have done and then maybe you could send some of your photos.
>
> OGD
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:	Vernon Graner [SMTP:vern@...]
>> Sent:	Thursday, September 25, 2003 6:50 PM
>> To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject:	[DTXpress] My bizarre use for my DTXpress module!
>>
>> Ok, here's the plan so far:
>>
>> I'm doing a big haunt this year in the front yard of my house,
>> culminating in a two story tall castle tower complete with a dungeon
>> door
>> with a "speak-easy" type sliding window (about 12"x24") in the center
>> of
>> the door. Beneath the window is a big old-time looking door knocker (no
>> knockers jokes please, yes I saw Young Frankenstein... "Frau Blucher!"
>> --extra points if you whinny here!) :) that I have placed where the
>> knocker impacts with a small square of wood. Beneath this wood block, I
>> mounted a piezo element. This piezo is then connected via wire through
>> a
>> hole cut in the door to the DTXpress module inside the house. The
>> module
>> in turn goes to a 16 channel mixer and then to a 400 watt amp to four
>> 12"
>> speakers placed around the outside of the house.
>>
>> When someone knocks using the knocker, the DTXpress will make a *very*
>> low tom with a HUGE reverb sound, makes for a very convincing "BOOM
>> BOOM"
>> type knock that is more than a bit unnerving. Combine this with the
>> stormy night rain/wind/thunder track and the Midnight Syndicate music
>> and
>> you've got some scary approach to the door!
>>
>> Of course, when the sliding widow slams open and the animatronic skull
>> pops up and talks to the trick-or-treators and then gives candy from a
>> gaunt hand, even the boldest of tricker-or-treators should be cringing!
>>
>> :) Just thought u guys would be entertained by the use of the module...
>> I'm also gunna experiment with the sounds in the module to see if I can
>> get "thunder on demand" using a midi keyboard and some of the internal
>> sounds.. Ok, off to experiment! :)
>>
>> --
>> Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network is down, then you're
>> Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent so why are we
>> Texas Information Services | paying you? Of course, if the network
>> <http://www.txis.com>         | is up, then we obviously don't need
>> Austin Office 512 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG
>>
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RE: [DTXpress] My bizarre use for my DTXpress module!

2003-09-26 by rdamon@mckinney-usa.com

Vern,

Since the photos of my Halloween stuff is off-topic here in the drum forum,
I will put together collection of my 2001 and 2002 setups and email them
directly to you early next week. If a general interest by others here
develop, maybe you could setup a temp subfolder on dtxpression site for
"seasonal activities". Even though they might anybody playing around
Halloween, to get some ideas for some addition stage props.

OGD

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Vernon Graner [SMTP:vern@...]
> Sent:	Friday, September 26, 2003 12:42 PM
> To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	RE: [DTXpress] My bizarre use for my DTXpress module!
> 
> I'd liove to see some pics! Here's what I've got:
> 
> <http://www.mugbbs.com/tower>
> 
> So far so good! :)
> 
> -- 
> Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network is down, then you're
> Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent so why are we
> Texas Information Services | paying you? Of course, if the network
> <http://www.txis.com>         | is up, then we obviously don't need
> Austin Office 512 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG
> 
> 
> rdamon@... said:
> > Vern,
> >
> > I (with the help of neighbors and wife) have been setting up our front
> > yard
> > with Halloween walk-throughs for the past couple of years. Last year we
> > setup two 10'x10' canopys and one 10'x20' canopy that people would walk
> > thru. I would be more than happy to send you some photos of some of the
> > things we have done and then maybe you could send some of your photos.
> >
> > OGD
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From:       Vernon Graner [SMTP:vern@...]
> >> Sent:       Thursday, September 25, 2003 6:50 PM
> >> To:       DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> >> Subject:       [DTXpress] My bizarre use for my DTXpress module!
> >>
> >> Ok, here's the plan so far:
> >>
> >> I'm doing a big haunt this year in the front yard of my house,
> >> culminating in a two story tall castle tower complete with a dungeon
> >> door
> >> with a "speak-easy" type sliding window (about 12"x24") in the center
> >> of
> >> the door. Beneath the window is a big old-time looking door knocker (no
> >> knockers jokes please, yes I saw Young Frankenstein... "Frau Blucher!"
> >> --extra points if you whinny here!) :) that I have placed where the
> >> knocker impacts with a small square of wood. Beneath this wood block, I
> >> mounted a piezo element. This piezo is then connected via wire through
> >> a
> >> hole cut in the door to the DTXpress module inside the house. The
> >> module
> >> in turn goes to a 16 channel mixer and then to a 400 watt amp to four
> >> 12"
> >> speakers placed around the outside of the house.
> >>
> >> When someone knocks using the knocker, the DTXpress will make a *very*
> >> low tom with a HUGE reverb sound, makes for a very convincing "BOOM
> >> BOOM"
> >> type knock that is more than a bit unnerving. Combine this with the
> >> stormy night rain/wind/thunder track and the Midnight Syndicate music
> >> and
> >> you've got some scary approach to the door!
> >>
> >> Of course, when the sliding widow slams open and the animatronic skull
> >> pops up and talks to the trick-or-treators and then gives candy from a
> >> gaunt hand, even the boldest of tricker-or-treators should be cringing!
> >>
> >> :) Just thought u guys would be entertained by the use of the module...
> >> I'm also gunna experiment with the sounds in the module to see if I can
> >> get "thunder on demand" using a midi keyboard and some of the internal
> >> sounds.. Ok, off to experiment! :)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE      | "If the network is down, then you're
> >> Senior Systems Engineer      | obviously incompetent so why are we
> >> Texas Information Services | paying you? Of course, if the network
> >> < <http://www.txis.com>>          | is up, then we obviously don't need
> >> Austin Office 512 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG
> >>
> >>
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> <http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=>
> >> 30529&media=atkins>
> >>
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RE: [DTXpress] My bizarre use for my DTXpress module!

2003-09-26 by Vernon Graner

Thats a great idea.. I can place a folder as soon as I have some pics of
the DTXpress being used as part of the setup... :)


-- 
Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE    | "If the network is down, then you're
Senior Systems Engineer    | obviously incompetent so why are we
Texas Information Services | paying you? Of course, if the network
http://www.txis.com        | is up, then we obviously don't need
Austin Office 512 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG




rdamon@... said:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Vern,
>
> Since the photos of my Halloween stuff is off-topic here in the drum
> forum,
> I will put together collection of my 2001 and 2002 setups and email them
> directly to you early next week. If a general interest by others here
> develop, maybe you could setup a temp subfolder on dtxpression site for
> "seasonal activities". Even though they might anybody playing around
> Halloween, to get some ideas for some addition stage props.
>
> OGD
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:	Vernon Graner [SMTP:vern@...]
>> Sent:	Friday, September 26, 2003 12:42 PM
>> To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject:	RE: [DTXpress] My bizarre use for my DTXpress module!
>>
>> I'd liove to see some pics! Here's what I've got:
>>
>> <http://www.mugbbs.com/tower>
>>
>> So far so good! :)
>>
>> --
>> Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network is down, then you're
>> Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent so why are we
>> Texas Information Services | paying you? Of course, if the network
>> <http://www.txis.com>         | is up, then we obviously don't need
>> Austin Office 512 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG
>>
>>
>> rdamon@... said:
>> > Vern,
>> >
>> > I (with the help of neighbors and wife) have been setting up our
>> front
>> > yard
>> > with Halloween walk-throughs for the past couple of years. Last year
>> we
>> > setup two 10'x10' canopys and one 10'x20' canopy that people would
>> walk
>> > thru. I would be more than happy to send you some photos of some of
>> the
>> > things we have done and then maybe you could send some of your
>> photos.
>> >
>> > OGD
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From:       Vernon Graner [SMTP:vern@...]
>> >> Sent:       Thursday, September 25, 2003 6:50 PM
>> >> To:       DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>> >> Subject:       [DTXpress] My bizarre use for my DTXpress module!
>> >>
>> >> Ok, here's the plan so far:
>> >>
>> >> I'm doing a big haunt this year in the front yard of my house,
>> >> culminating in a two story tall castle tower complete with a dungeon
>> >> door
>> >> with a "speak-easy" type sliding window (about 12"x24") in the
>> center
>> >> of
>> >> the door. Beneath the window is a big old-time looking door knocker
>> (no
>> >> knockers jokes please, yes I saw Young Frankenstein... "Frau
>> Blucher!"
>> >> --extra points if you whinny here!) :) that I have placed where the
>> >> knocker impacts with a small square of wood. Beneath this wood
>> block, I
>> >> mounted a piezo element. This piezo is then connected via wire
>> through
>> >> a
>> >> hole cut in the door to the DTXpress module inside the house. The
>> >> module
>> >> in turn goes to a 16 channel mixer and then to a 400 watt amp to
>> four
>> >> 12"
>> >> speakers placed around the outside of the house.
>> >>
>> >> When someone knocks using the knocker, the DTXpress will make a
>> *very*
>> >> low tom with a HUGE reverb sound, makes for a very convincing "BOOM
>> >> BOOM"
>> >> type knock that is more than a bit unnerving. Combine this with the
>> >> stormy night rain/wind/thunder track and the Midnight Syndicate
>> music
>> >> and
>> >> you've got some scary approach to the door!
>> >>
>> >> Of course, when the sliding widow slams open and the animatronic
>> skull
>> >> pops up and talks to the trick-or-treators and then gives candy from
>> a
>> >> gaunt hand, even the boldest of tricker-or-treators should be
>> cringing!
>> >>
>> >> :) Just thought u guys would be entertained by the use of the
>> module...
>> >> I'm also gunna experiment with the sounds in the module to see if I
>> can
>> >> get "thunder on demand" using a midi keyboard and some of the
>> internal
>> >> sounds.. Ok, off to experiment! :)
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE      | "If the network is down, then you're
>> >> Senior Systems Engineer      | obviously incompetent so why are we
>> >> Texas Information Services | paying you? Of course, if the network
>> >> < <http://www.txis.com>>          | is up, then we obviously don't
>> need
>> >> Austin Office 512 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>> >> ADVERTISEMENT
>> >> click here
>> >> <
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>> <http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=>
>> >> 30529&media=atkins>
>> >>
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>> <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=194081.3897168.5135684.1261774/D=egroupm
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>> >>     < <http://www.dtxpressions.com>>
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Re: My bizarre use for my DTXpress module!

2003-09-27 by moosetication

--- Vern  wrote:
> Here's what I've got:
> http://www.mugbbs.com/tower

Absolutely outstanding. I doff my cap to you, sir!

Stewart

PS. Does your insurance cover you for frightening kids to death on 
the porch?

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