Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

--- Michael Y wrote:
> I am planning to buy a PINTECH Dual Zone Concertcast
> Snare Pad to add to my DTXPRESS 1 kit ... Will the [it]
> work with my module? (I assume that it has ONE STEREO
> output.  can someone confirm this?

It has a dual-zone output - a stereo cable, but two piezo signals 
rather than a piezo and a switch. You can't put those on a single 
stereo input on the DTXpress; you need two inputs - one for the 
head, and one for the rim.

Stewart

Ok thanks for the info,
So how will i make this work if I wish to add

***new***
1) PINTECH Dual Zone Concertcast Snare Pad (Input#2 SNARE and where 
else?)
***and use my old***
2) TP60 as a ride (Input#6 Ride)
3) Two crashes on (Input#7 and Input#"9/10")

What can you guys recommend that i do?  Please be specific on what 
inputs i should use and what kinda wires i will need.  Im assuming 
that I will need a Y-split stereo wires for the 2inputs on the Dual 
zone.

Thank you. 
Mike

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" 
<moosetication@y...> wrote:

> --- Michael Y wrote:
> > I am planning to buy a PINTECH Dual Zone Concertcast
> > Snare Pad to add to my DTXPRESS 1 kit ... Will the [it]
> > work with my module? (I assume that it has ONE STEREO
> > output.  can someone confirm this?
> 
> It has a dual-zone output - a stereo cable, but two piezo signals 
> rather than a piezo and a switch. You can't put those on a single 
> stereo input on the DTXpress; you need two inputs - one for the 
> head, and one for the rim.
> 
> Stewart

--- Michael Y wrote:
> So how will i make this work...
> ***new***
> 1) PINTECH Dual Zone Concertcast Snare Pad
> (Input#2 SNARE and where else?)
> ***and use my old***
> 2) TP60 as a ride (Input#6 Ride)
> 3) Two crashes on (Input#7 and Input#"9/10")

I'm assuming you have the early, all-mono DTXpress kit. If so, carry 
on exactly as you have above, with the addition that you should take 
the rim of the snare to the other half of 9/10.

You will need two stereo/mono splitters - search on "HOSA" in the 
archive for model numbers and links - and two extra mono cables. One 
splitter you will use to split the head and rim off the Pintech snare 
into two mono cables. The mono cable for the head will go to input #2 
as you say. The other splitter goes into input #9/10, and you will 
plug the other mono (rim) lead from the snare into one side of that, 
and your crash into the other side.

Once you've done that, remember to set up the pad types for each of 
the inputs you have changed.

Stewart

Ok now i gettit,
One last question, once I have everything all physically set up and 
Ive set up the pad types, then do i have to do some "tweaking" with 
the module?  Ive been reading about the ConcertCast pads on this 
forum and it seems that some users are experience "Hotspots" which i 
am not really sure what they are.  Basically, what im askin is, will 
the pad AUTOMATICALLY work properly once it is connected and the pad 
types are assigned?

Regards,
Mike

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" 
<moosetication@y...> wrote:
> --- Michael Y wrote:
> > So how will i make this work...
> > ***new***
> > 1) PINTECH Dual Zone Concertcast Snare Pad
> > (Input#2 SNARE and where else?)
> > ***and use my old***
> > 2) TP60 as a ride (Input#6 Ride)
> > 3) Two crashes on (Input#7 and Input#"9/10")
> 
> I'm assuming you have the early, all-mono DTXpress kit. If so, 
carry 
> on exactly as you have above, with the addition that you should 
take 
> the rim of the snare to the other half of 9/10.
> 
> You will need two stereo/mono splitters - search on "HOSA" in the 
> archive for model numbers and links - and two extra mono cables. 
One 
> splitter you will use to split the head and rim off the Pintech 
snare 
> into two mono cables. The mono cable for the head will go to input 
#2 
> as you say. The other splitter goes into input #9/10, and you will 
> plug the other mono (rim) lead from the snare into one side of 
that, 
> and your crash into the other side.
> 
> Once you've done that, remember to set up the pad types for each 
of 

> the inputs you have changed.
> 
> Stewart

--- darkice wrote:
> ... do i have to do some "tweaking" with 
> the module?

You may do, but the good news is there's a ton of experience with 
Pintech pads and Yamaha modules hereabouts so don't fret it.

As for "hotspots" - some pads have areas right near the piezo where 
they trigger at or near maximum, with the rest of the pad more 
graded. There are various physical strategies the manufacturers use 
to mitigate this (like foam cones between the pizeo and the head, or 
with Yamaha's gum pads a sort of "distribution" layer. However, as 
you say, Pintech does have this problem. I certainly get it with my 
SE-102 (rubber) pad. You learn to live with it - or in my case, use 
it to advantage.

Stewart