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Re: K3 Inks

2006-01-30 by sean

I m planning on transferring the ink from the 110ml cart to the 4oz ink bottles that MIS sell. I figure that they will last longer in a bottle. Cost

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Re: Monitor calibration

2006-01-30 by Larry Burk

I tried to do a test with Coloreyes last month but the program wouldnt work. When I inquired about it with Coloreyes they acknowledged it didnt always wotk

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Re: Choice of Paper for print sales

2006-01-30 by mitcha@mac.com

... It seems to me that a few years ago printing on glossy-type papers was problematic -- bronzing and gloss differential -- and therefore people started using

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Re: Monitor calibration

2006-01-30 by Greg

I find the i1 spectro to be too heavy for my LCD as it seems to distort the surface enough to throw the profile off. My Optix XR does a better job, if only for

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[Digital BW] Re: more paper news

2006-01-30 by Shilesh Jani

Bob, I agree 100% with your post. What Scott fails to understand is that the vendor had no Wilhelm-like data from a highly contolled enviroment. Such tests can

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Choice of Paper for print sales

2006-01-30 by Derrick

Hi, it s probably a lot of personal preferences but can anyone recommend me what type of papers (brand, type, etc) to use if i want to prepare some prints for

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Re: I'm New & Would Like Some Advice

2006-01-30 by rgb2bw

Kevin, Here is how I browse this forum. When I am in the messages section, I change View to Simple, and change As to Thread. Yahoo then indents all the

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Re: [Digital BW] Re: more paper news

2006-01-30 by Walt Mucha

Man, you really ought to check your logic first and your math second. I d do it for you, but, I don t want to embaress you. :-) Walt ... From: scott_now_coming

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Monitor calibration

2006-01-30 by Larry Burk

I posted this to another group a few days ago and received a respone which was rather generic although useful. If somehere has more specific information as to

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Re: more paper news

2006-01-30 by Shilesh Jani

Clayton, Thank you for interjecting some sanity. Shilesh ... is ... light. ... decide

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[Digital BW] Re: more paper news

2006-01-30 by Shilesh Jani

... Exactly the same can therefore be said for Epson Dye inks; remember I tested the Dye inks at the same time. So why bother with NanoCrome? We drive 3

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Re: For Scott - more paper news

2006-01-30 by Shilesh Jani

... So what does this from you mean?: I think people that discounted the Nanochrome inks because of Shilesh s test, should re-think their position. You care,

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Re: For Scott - more paper news

2006-01-30 by scott_now_coming

First of all , we re not buddies . Second, I could care less about NanoChrome. Third, unless you plan on diplaying you photos in direct sunlight, keep running

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[Digital BW] Re: more paper news

2006-01-30 by Shilesh Jani

Scott, Ouch, I feel neutered; I am a he, not a she. But that s tough to fugure out with aname like mine. I once reminded a coworker, my name is Shilesh, not

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[Digital BW] Re: more paper news

2006-01-30 by scott_now_coming

Wilhelm also uses flour. lighting for his test. I think that s what really iritates people about his testing. I know I d feel better about his testing results

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For Scott - more paper news

2006-01-30 by Shilesh Jani

Scott, I don t know how I missed this post of yours today. A preamble: You are not doing NanChrome any favors, I hope you know that. Why? Because these inks

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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Lux meters

2006-01-29 by John

David, in your considerd opinion, given what you say below, if the following refered to the NanoChromes or any other dye type Inkjet Ink placed in exactly

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Re: Lux meters

2006-01-29 by Shilesh Jani

Oh, cool! The best laugh today. I just packed THE prints in a box for FedEx to you. I don t know how light-tight the box is ;-) whether in UV, UV-VIS, IR,

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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Lux meters

2006-01-29 by CDTobie@aol.com

... I ve not considered using them for that; but I often use Epson dyes on non-swellable gloss media as an ozone meter... any location where that shifts to

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Re: Lux meters

2006-01-29 by Greg

... OK people are going to start yelling about the OT content, but this seemed to apply to the last post:

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BW printing on EPSON2400 - Help needed

2006-01-29 by j25nde

I recently bought an EPSON2400 for B&W printing. The sample prints that I saw from this printer were breathtaking. My own print are far from that. Maybe I m

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Re: [Digital BW] Re: more paper news

2006-01-29 by Larry Wangelin

Tom, He is the Gold Standard of testing IMHO. Sure he has had bumps along the way but he is concise and he tempers his results with his methodology. He also

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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Lux meters

2006-01-29 by Michael Vendrell

Thank you for the laugh! Finally... a bit of humor in this, by now very old and tired, eyes vs meters controversy. Michael Vendrell ...

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Re: Lux meters

2006-01-29 by Shilesh Jani

I am a jestful mood today. But, once calibrated, some paper/ink combinations would make pretty good cumulative light meters. This is fun!

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[Digital BW] Re: more paper news

2006-01-29 by Greg

... stuff. Maybe that s one reason Wilhelm gets so much grief. He oughta get paid well for doing what he does. ... The Image Permanence Institute at RIT gets

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Lux meters

2006-01-29 by Greg

I know there are a few meters that work in conjunction with a computer, so in theory you could monitor the amount of light during a very long interval. Check

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Re: [Digital BW] Re: more paper news

2006-01-29 by Tom Baker

Yep. Shoot the messenger definitely seems to be in play in this stuff. Maybe that s one reason Wilhelm gets so much grief. He oughta get paid well for doing

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[Digital BW] Re: more paper news

2006-01-29 by scott_now_coming

He didn t know exactly how much light hit each print either. Not exactly , no, because he took readings every hour and added them together. And if I

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Re: more paper news

2006-01-29 by Clayton Jones

Scott, Walt, ... I have to agree with Walt. The test does have some validity because of the other control prints. If two fade and one doesn t under the same

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Re: [Digital BW] Re: more paper news

2006-01-29 by Bob Frost

Scott, Fading does not just depend on light, it also depends on airflow over the print, and the concentrations of oxygen, ozone, etc, etc in the air. So you

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[Digital BW] Re: more paper news

2006-01-29 by Greg

... DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, scott_now_coming ... was ... As I said, I won t get into this anymore at this time. When I get the prints,

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[Digital BW] Re: more paper news

2006-01-29 by Shilesh Jani

OK, now this is pure entertainment - no other value can be gained from these conversations, I am LOL: Did you see me make any meaning to my test? Did I not

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[Digital BW] Re: more paper news

2006-01-29 by scott_now_coming

You re an engineer and you can t see where your test was flawed? I m just a photographer, and it was readily evident to me how you failed to make a test with

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[Digital BW] Re: more paper news

2006-01-29 by scott_now_coming

Shilesh measured the fading, just not the amount of light the test was exposed to. That s what s really needed. Scott -- In

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[Digital BW] Re: more paper news

2006-01-29 by scott_now_coming

Well yes, there wasn t a TOTAL LUX amount for this given test. To me, regardless of whatever the total LUX was in this test, what the fade results were for

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[Digital BW] Re: more paper news

2006-01-29 by Shilesh Jani

Totally out of context, but try this: Make photocopies of the prints and see if the same people buy that in preference over your originals. Sorry, but no

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Re: [Digital BW] Re: more paper news

2006-01-29 by Gary Brown

-Excuse my pedantic state of mind. I am an engineer and have no -patience for opinion, other than it being a spark that sends me into -the lab. -Shilesh You

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