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2011-08-27 by sjef.janssen
I use my Nikon Coolscan 5000 to scan my fomapan 100 film to dng files. Now, a 100 iso film should have very fine grain but the scans are very grainy. I use Vuescan on a win 7 machine. I tried the grain reduction but to minor results. Another scanner? Different scanning software (silverfast?). Nikonscan is not running on win7 64 bit so that's out of the question. Is there another solution?
2011-08-27 by Lew Schwartz
I'm using a 5000 to Vuescan FP+ developed in XTol 1:3. The scans at 4000 dpi are terrific imo, no grain reduction necessary. What's your complete setup? On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 11:00 AM, sjef.janssen <sjef@...> wrote: > ** > > > I use my Nikon Coolscan 5000 to scan my fomapan 100 film to dng files. Now, > a 100 iso film should have very fine grain but the scans are very grainy. I > use Vuescan on a win 7 machine. I tried the grain reduction but to minor > results. Another scanner? Different scanning software (silverfast?). > Nikonscan is not running on win7 64 bit so that's out of the question. Is > there another solution? > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2011-08-27 by Tina Manley
I like Silverfast software by Lasersoft. I get great B&W scans and they have targets for Kodachrome which give me better results than I've gotten with anything. It's expensive, but in this case, you get what you pay for. Tina On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 11:00 AM, sjef.janssen <sjef@...> wrote: > ** > > > I use my Nikon Coolscan 5000 to scan my fomapan 100 film to dng files. Now, > a 100 iso film should have very fine grain but the scans are very grainy. I > use Vuescan on a win 7 machine. I tried the grain reduction but to minor > results. Another scanner? Different scanning software (silverfast?). > Nikonscan is not running on win7 64 bit so that's out of the question. Is > there another solution? > > > -- Tina Manley, ASMP www.tinamanley.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2011-08-28 by E.Neilsen
YEs, Nikon scan does run on Win 7 64 bit. the answer has been posted here, I posted it on my forum, and if you Google it, I am sure it will pop up. I installed it NO problem. What developer on your 100 iso film? Eric Neilsen Eric Neilsen Photography 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 www.ericneilsenphotography.com skype me with ejprinter www.ericneilsenphotography.com/forum1 Let's Talk Photography _____
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sjef.janssen Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 10:01 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] grain reduction I use my Nikon Coolscan 5000 to scan my fomapan 100 film to dng files. Now, a 100 iso film should have very fine grain but the scans are very grainy. I use Vuescan on a win 7 machine. I tried the grain reduction but to minor results. Another scanner? Different scanning software (silverfast?). Nikonscan is not running on win7 64 bit so that's out of the question. Is there another solution? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2011-08-28 by Tony Sleep
On 27/08/2011 sjef.janssen wrote: > I use my Nikon Coolscan 5000 to scan my fomapan 100 film to dng > files. Now, a 100 iso film should have very fine grain but the scans > are very grainy. I use Vuescan on a win 7 machine. This is very likely grain aliasing, as discussed here recently - an aliasing effect that arises in the interaction between grain and scanning frequency. Nikon scanners with LED lightsources have always been particularly prone as the illuminant is semi-collimated. Diffuse sources mitigate the issue. A different dev and/or film, or a different scanner, are the only real solutions. -- Regards Tony Sleep http://tonysleep.co.uk
2011-08-28 by sjef.janssen
I develop in diafine using fomapan 100 at iso 100. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "E.Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
> > YEs, Nikon scan does run on Win 7 64 bit. the answer has been posted here, I > posted it on my forum, and if you Google it, I am sure it will pop up. I > installed it NO problem. What developer on your 100 iso film? > > Eric Neilsen > Eric Neilsen Photography > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9 > Dallas, TX 75226 > > www.ericneilsenphotography.com > skype me with ejprinter > www.ericneilsenphotography.com/forum1 > Let's Talk Photography > > _____ > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > sjef.janssen > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 10:01 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] grain reduction > > > I use my Nikon Coolscan 5000 to scan my fomapan 100 film to dng files. Now, > a 100 iso film should have very fine grain but the scans are very grainy. I > use Vuescan on a win 7 machine. I tried the grain reduction but to minor > results. Another scanner? Different scanning software (silverfast?). > Nikonscan is not running on win7 64 bit so that's out of the question. Is > there another solution? > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2011-08-28 by wrkrparasite
I'm brand new here, but I thought I'd chime in my two cents. I personally find Fomapan 100 to be on the grainier end of the 100 ISO spectrum. It's up there with Adox CHS/Efke. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sjef.janssen" <sjef@...> wrote:
> > I use my Nikon Coolscan 5000 to scan my fomapan 100 film to dng files. Now, a 100 iso film should have very fine grain but the scans are very grainy. I use Vuescan on a win 7 machine. I tried the grain reduction but to minor results. Another scanner? Different scanning software (silverfast?). Nikonscan is not running on win7 64 bit so that's out of the question. Is there another solution? >
2011-08-29 by Michael-K
I question whether it is a cause of the software used. I'm inclined to look at hardware issue as Tony suggested. I've also found that I can reboot my entire system, i.e., scanner and computer, and get a slightly different scan. You might also try reversing the film from it's normal scanning orientation; one may never know for sure what works until you try even the implausible ideas. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2011-08-29 by sjef.janssen
Thanks for your reply, Eric. I googled and tried to look at your forum but for your forum I should log in. Maybe you can point me at the thread on this forum where the procedure of installing Nikon scan om Win 7 is described. Thanks!! --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "E.Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
> > YEs, Nikon scan does run on Win 7 64 bit. the answer has been posted here, I > posted it on my forum, and if you Google it, I am sure it will pop up. I > installed it NO problem. What developer on your 100 iso film? > > Eric Neilsen > Eric Neilsen Photography > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9 > Dallas, TX 75226 > > www.ericneilsenphotography.com > skype me with ejprinter > www.ericneilsenphotography.com/forum1 > Let's Talk Photography > > _____ > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > sjef.janssen > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 10:01 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] grain reduction > > > I use my Nikon Coolscan 5000 to scan my fomapan 100 film to dng files. Now, > a 100 iso film should have very fine grain but the scans are very grainy. I > use Vuescan on a win 7 machine. I tried the grain reduction but to minor > results. Another scanner? Different scanning software (silverfast?). > Nikonscan is not running on win7 64 bit so that's out of the question. Is > there another solution? > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2011-08-29 by E.Neilsen
Sorry, I have been getting spam attacks on my forum and switched to a password to even get on. 10 bogus requests from spammers from all over the world every day got to me. I am in the process of redirecting to a new page to request one. Email me directly for a pass word. I will be quite business once my day starts rolling. I haven't used that film dev combo, so I am sorry I can speak to grain specifically from it. My first thought would be to try another film strip from your archive to judge against to make sure the scanners not all mucked up. Of course , it's not the best solution because specific patterns is what's the problem : ( Eric Neilsen Eric Neilsen Photography 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 www.ericneilsenphotography.com skype me with ejprinter www.ericneilsenphotography.com/forum1 (request a password) Let's Talk Photography _____
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sjef.janssen Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 7:20 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] grain reduction Thanks for your reply, Eric. I googled and tried to look at your forum but for your forum I should log in. Maybe you can point me at the thread on this forum where the procedure of installing Nikon scan om Win 7 is described. Thanks!! --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> , "E.Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@...> wrote: > > YEs, Nikon scan does run on Win 7 64 bit. the answer has been posted here, I > posted it on my forum, and if you Google it, I am sure it will pop up. I > installed it NO problem. What developer on your 100 iso film? > > Eric Neilsen > Eric Neilsen Photography > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9 > Dallas, TX 75226 > > www.ericneilsenphotography.com > skype me with ejprinter > www.ericneilsenphotography.com/forum1 > Let's Talk Photography > > _____ > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of > sjef.janssen > Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 10:01 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [Digital BW] grain reduction > > > I use my Nikon Coolscan 5000 to scan my fomapan 100 film to dng files. Now, > a 100 iso film should have very fine grain but the scans are very grainy. I > use Vuescan on a win 7 machine. I tried the grain reduction but to minor > results. Another scanner? Different scanning software (silverfast?). > Nikonscan is not running on win7 64 bit so that's out of the question. Is > there another solution? > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2011-08-29 by Eric
I assume you're scanning in RGB otherwise it will be grainy. Also, check what the sharpening level is set at as that increases the appearance of grain as well. Once in pshop, pick the channel that looks the best (R, G or B) and delete the rest. Eric --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sjef.janssen" <sjef@...> wrote:
> > I use my Nikon Coolscan 5000 to scan my fomapan 100 film to dng files. Now, a 100 iso film should have very fine grain but the scans are very grainy. I use Vuescan on a win 7 machine. I tried the grain reduction but to minor results. Another scanner? Different scanning software (silverfast?). Nikonscan is not running on win7 64 bit so that's out of the question. Is there another solution? >