>
> Jerry,
>
> Have you tried Eclipse Satine? How does an image printed on Satine (Bright
> White) compare to Hahnemuhle Photo Rag using Paul's curves and the MIS
> VM inkset? I am using a G4 , the 1280, and the neutral curve. I have been
> using EAM and Satine with good results (I took your advice and make a levels
> adjustment on Satine bringing the middle bar to 85). What adjustments are
> necessary, using EAM as a proofing standard, when switching to Photo Rag
> (you say 'nearly' identical)? Is it the same as Satine?
>
> Jerry Campbell
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> > Royal Renaissance is the Media Street name for Photo Rag. It's a
> > hahnemuhle paper, and has fantastic quality, and deep blacks. One of the
> > best papers there is. Yes, there is a good and bad side for printing.
> > Using Paul Roark's curves and the MIS VM inkset, the print settings are
> > nearly identical to those I use for Epson Archival Matte paper.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > Jim Panzer wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the tips Martin and Steadman!
> > >
> > > I did do a print over the weekend that I have printed before on EAM. On
> > > the EAM I have been very happy with the way it turns out, all though when
> I
> > > did the same print on the Royal Ren. the picture was washed out and very
> > > gray toned, no real blacks and no real whites, but I printed the same way I
> > > do with the EAM, and the EAM looks great in my humble opinion. I am just
> > > wondering where I went wrong? This may sounds silly but is there a
> > > preferred side to print on with this paper? I looked for the paper work but
> > > could find anything that stated one side over the other, all though the
> > > surfaces do feel different. I will probably just do an experiment using the
> > > other side, it's just this stuff isn't cheap as I am sure you all know.
> > >
> > > If your going to print and you just want to increase the blacks in you
> > > images is the general way of doing this through curves? OK, thanks
> again.
> > >
> > > Jim P
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Martin Wesley [mailto:mwesley250@e...]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:13 PM
> > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...
> > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Royal Renaissance tips?
> > >
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > > Tyler's RGB separation curves for MIS-VM ink and the Epson 1280 were
> > > specifically made for Hahnemuhle Photo Rag, aka Media Streets Royal
> Ren. So
> > > if you use the proper settings for those curves you will be right on target,
> > > even better than on EAM. I generally never change the paper thickness
> lever
> > > on my 1280's. The 189 gsm feeds just fine.
> > >
> > > I don't know if spraying this paper will gain you much.
> > >
> > > I have never used it for color. You will have to experiment with the driver
> > > settings or have a custom ink/paper profile made which is probably the
> best
> > > way to go. You might want to ask that question on the Archival Color list,
> > > too.
> > >
> > > Martin Wesley
> > > http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html
> > > <http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html>
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jim Panzer" <jimp@r...>
> > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> > > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:32 PM
> > > Subject: [Digital BW] Royal Renaissance tips?
> > >
> > > > Hi, well, I received my box of Media Streets Royal Ren. 189gm paper
> > > > today. I have been using only Epson AM until now. I was wondering if
> > > > anyone might have any tips they could possibly give me before I start
> > > > printing? Like which paper type do I choose, and should I use the (+)
> > > > setting on my printer for thinker paper. Also, should I spray this paper
> > > > afterwards with krylon UV#1305? I am printing on an Epson 1280 with
> MIS
> > > VM,
> > > > through Photoshop using mostly Tyler's colder curves. Is this paper
> good
> > > > for color also? I am using an Epson 820 with stock inks for color too,
> > > but
> > > > mostly I do black and white. Thanks in advance, take care.
> > > >
> > > > Jim P
> > > >
> > > >
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