Digital BW, The Print

EAM is shit for midtones - others love it but it sucks (tin hat on) PR is a
world away but it costs more. I use eam for proofing only and PR or WT for
final prints

Julian

----- Original Message -----
From: "treadwinkle" <VOLveeta@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:58 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] New Piezotone for 1280 user... help please...


I love the colors of these inks.  I've gotten a couple of really
lovely prints, but my primary subjects are actors for headshots.
The transition from shadow to light is a little abrupt.  I've only
used Epson Archival Matte so far, will better papers help?  On a
tight face shot, the transition from shadow to midtone to light is
just a bit too "defined".  I'm blanking on the term, but it's
that "digitalized" or "pixelated" look going from one color to the
next.  It makes the image look pretty flat.

Will the Hahnem\ufffdhle photo rag that I just ordered help this?

Thanks for any info.

Treadwinkle



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Sorry, what is PR and EAM?  Please educate me and if you have a 
better system, let me know.  I'm willing to spend the bucks if it 
will mean I don't have to go back to the dark room.  I'm about ready 
to do that, unfortunately.

Monday, August 26, 2002, 1:28:27 PM, treadwinkle wrote:

t> Sorry, what is PR and EAM?  Please educate me and if you have a 
t> better system, let me know.  I'm willing to spend the bucks if it 
t> will mean I don't have to go back to the dark room.  I'm about ready 
t> to do that, unfortunately.


PR = Photo Rag

EAM = Epson Archival Matte

which supposedly is being replaced by EEM = Epson Enhanced Matte

Best regards,
 Richard  

mailto:richard@...

I'm not ready to give up on Piezotone yet.  I'm relieved to know he 
was talking about paper, not ink! :-)

Treadwinkle

Actually EAM is very good at its price point although its 
archivability is probably overstated. It's surprisingly very white 
(relative to the yellowish cast of the Photo Glossy which is mediocre 
for B and W Digital) and the Epson inks print very decently (but 
still not rich enough blacks) on it with my C80.

Although EAM is very cheap to print out. It doesn't use up the inks 
as much as the horrific Photo Glossy and it is rather durable as a 
print.

I have samples of the Photo Rag and it's fabulous. It's whiter than 
EAM in my opinion (by a slight margin) but it's more expensive. I 
suspect that it's from much cleaner stock than the Hahnemuhe version 
but you pay for it in terms of number of sheets. It's worth for those 
special prints! :)

Alfie

> 
> PR = Photo Rag
> 
> EAM = Epson Archival Matte
> 
> which supposedly is being replaced by EEM = Epson Enhanced Matte
> 
> Best regards,
>  Richard  
> 
> mailto:richard@c...

> EAM in my opinion (by a slight margin) but it's more expensive. I 
> suspect that it's from much cleaner stock than the Hahnemuhe 
version 

slight correction to my last post:

I meant that the Hahnemuhe PR probably comes from cleaner stock than 
the EAM. Which is not dissing the EAM. I do really think that the EAM 
is competent but it has a rather subdued look in its tonality 
relative to the luxury beauty of PR!