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2002-09-12 by Editor P.O.V. Image Service
heliar333 wrote: >There are many tutorials on duotones in PS. > > > And I have posted some of my own for use with full-color and Small Gamut inksets at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSONx7x_Printers/files/PhotoShop%20Quads%20for%20RGB/ Keith [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-11-11 by Tony Riley
Can you try and explain the problem a little more clearly Steve? Whats wrong with using the Photoshop Duotone (tritone/quadtone whatever) to develop such a file? Alternatively you could use the Hue and Saturation 'colorize' route? TonyR On 11/11/2005 09:12:15, Steve Kale (stevekale@...) wrote: > I'll give this a try but wouldn't it pick up the reduced dynamic range of > the print. I should have been more specific perhaps. > I'd like to tint the > image file similar to say a warm print but keep the full dynamic range (as > opposed to a file "soft-proof"). For example, if someone wants to send an > image to a magazine and have it printed with the same hue as their QTR warm
> curve but won't > have input into the printing process (and so need to send a > colour image rather than a greyscale).
2005-11-11 by Steve Kale
Tony that was my question - how to get PS's duotone to match hue. I can see in concept that it would work but can't get it down in practice short of an enormous amount of fiddling and guess work. Is there a more regimented/precise way to go about matching the hue or is it really a case of a lot of fiddling?
> From: Tony Riley <listsubs@...> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:18:34 -0000 > To: <digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Duotones > > Can you try and explain the problem a little more clearly Steve? > Whats wrong with using the Photoshop Duotone (tritone/quadtone whatever) to > develop such a file? > Alternatively you could use the Hue and Saturation 'colorize' route? > > TonyR > > On 11/11/2005 09:12:15, Steve Kale (stevekale@...) wrote: >> I'll give this a try but wouldn't it pick up the reduced dynamic range of >> the print. I should have been more specific perhaps. >> I'd like to tint the >> image file similar to say a warm print but keep the full dynamic range (as >> opposed to a file "soft-proof"). For example, if someone wants to send an >> image to a magazine and have it printed with the same hue as their QTR > warm >> curve but won't >> have input into the printing process (and so need to send a >> colour image rather than a greyscale).
2005-11-11 by Tony Riley
Duotones etc work on the principal that you are blending two different pantone colors via two separate plates on press. There is no way to translate an RGB file (that I know of) to a duotone directly. You must first convert to monochrome and then create the duotone. You can load a palette of pantone colors and select from swatches - have you tried that? Once you have created a pleasing duotone you can reconvert to RGB but that is the opposite to what you would like to do. TonyR
On 11/11/2005 09:32:43, Steve Kale (stevekale@...) wrote: > Tony that was my question - how to get > PS's duotone to match hue. I can see > in concept that it would work but can't > get it down in practice short of an > enormous amount of fiddling and guess work. Is there a more > regimented/precise way to go about matching the hue or is it really a > case > of a lot of fiddling?
2005-11-11 by Gary Brown
Fiddling. Gary
----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Kale" <stevekale@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 2:32 AM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Duotones Tony that was my question - how to get PS's duotone to match hue. I can see in concept that it would work but can't get it down in practice short of an enormous amount of fiddling and guess work. Is there a more regimented/precise way to go about matching the hue or is it really a case of a lot of fiddling? > From: Tony Riley <listsubs@...> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:18:34 -0000 > To: <digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Duotones > > Can you try and explain the problem a little more clearly Steve? > Whats wrong with using the Photoshop Duotone (tritone/quadtone whatever) > to > develop such a file? > Alternatively you could use the Hue and Saturation 'colorize' route? > > TonyR > > On 11/11/2005 09:12:15, Steve Kale (stevekale@...) wrote: >> I'll give this a try but wouldn't it pick up the reduced dynamic range of >> the print. I should have been more specific perhaps. >> I'd like to tint the >> image file similar to say a warm print but keep the full dynamic range >> (as >> opposed to a file "soft-proof"). For example, if someone wants to send >> an >> image to a magazine and have it printed with the same hue as their QTR > warm >> curve but won't >> have input into the printing process (and so need to send a >> colour image rather than a greyscale). Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
2005-11-11 by Steve Kale
The question is how to pick the right tones...easily.
> From: Tony Riley <listsubs@...> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:55:29 -0000 > To: <digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Duotones > > Duotones etc work on the principal that you are blending two different > pantone colors via two separate plates on press. > There is no way to translate an RGB file (that I know of) to a duotone > directly. You must first convert to monochrome and then create the duotone. > You can load a palette of pantone colors and select from swatches - have you > tried that? > Once you have created a pleasing duotone you can reconvert to RGB but that > is the opposite to what you would like to do. > > TonyR > > On 11/11/2005 09:32:43, Steve Kale (stevekale@...) wrote: >> Tony that was my question - how to get >> PS's duotone to match hue. I can see >> in concept that it would work but can't >> get it down in practice short of an >> enormous amount of fiddling and guess work. Is there a more >> regimented/precise way to go about matching the hue or is it really a >> case >> of a lot of fiddling?
2005-11-11 by Tony Riley
On 11/11/2005 13:57:35, john dean (deanwork2003@...) wrote: > Can anyone refer me to a good tutorial with specific examples of > working with duotone, tritone, and quadtone, files? There must be > something good online. I've done very little of this since I don't > generally output to offset. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/duotone.shtml TonyR
2005-11-11 by john dean
Thank you Tony. I appreciate it. John --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Riley" <listsubs@a...> wrote:
> > On 11/11/2005 13:57:35, john dean (deanwork2003@y...) wrote: > > Can anyone refer me to a good tutorial with specific examples of > > working with duotone, tritone, and quadtone, files? There must be > > something good online. I've done very little of this since I don't > > generally output to offset. > > > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/duotone.shtml > > TonyR >