Digital BW, The Print

Hi All,
  Is there a all black cart avail. for the epson 1280 tp replace the 
color? Or do I have to just print with the color cart?

                                                  Thanks Willi

Willi,

Almost. Both ConeTech (PiezoBW) and Lyson plan to release Quadra tone 
ink cartridges for the 1280.

In the meantime you can buy empty cartridges or a continuous inking 
system (CIS) and fill them with the bulk Quadra tone inks available.

http://www.nomorecarts.com/

Keep in mind that you also need some software or adjustment curves to 
go with your new inks. Unless you want to develop your own curves.

The only thing actually ready to go at the moment are the MIS VM inks 
used with Paul Roark's workflow and curves.

http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/quadtone.html
http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/workflow.html

You can also print B&W with color cartridges and if you browse 
through the list you will find some hints on all the different 
methods.

Martin Wesley




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., wnebel@y... wrote:
> Hi All,
>   Is there a all black cart avail. for the epson 1280 tp replace 
the 

> color? Or do I have to just print with the color cart?
> 
>                                                   Thanks Willi

Hi Jerry,
   I'm thinking of going from chemical to digital for darkroom work and am considering the MIS UT inks and Roarke.   How has it been working for you.  Are you getting good tonal range and deep blacks?  Are there any special considerations I should consider before making the leap.    I was also wondering if you have any work prints I could look at to see the
final output.

Thanks,
   Sean


>   I am using my 1280 using the MIS UT inkset and Roarke curves and have not yet had a clog....
>
> Jerry in Houston
>

--
Fine Art Black & White Photography
http://www.sbphoto.net

Got my 4000 and no longer need my 1280.  The 1280 comes with MIS' CFS system.  The 
inks are Ultra-Tone B@W inks all full.  About $700 investment. Yours for $325 and I'll 
ship.  Please respond off list so we don't take up bandwidth.  email:  
davajon@...
Thanks
Joe D.

Hi Joe, 
Just curious how do you plan to print B&W with your 4000...?  The 
UltraTone B&W inks I understand make good quality B&W ...
Steve 


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Davajon" 
<davajon@s...> wrote:
> Got my 4000 and no longer need my 1280.  The 1280 comes with MIS' 
CFS system.  The 
> inks are Ultra-Tone B@W inks all full.  About $700 investment. 
Yours for $325 and I'll 
> ship.  Please respond off list so we don't take up bandwidth.  
email:  

> davajon@s...
> Thanks
> Joe D.

--- brinkker2000 <stevebrink@...> wrote:
Hi Joe, 
Just curious how do you plan to print B&W with your
4000...?  The UltraTone B&W inks I understand make
good quality B&W ...
Steve 

Steve,
I've been trying some prints with the 4000.  Color is
gorgeous!  But so was my 2200 color printing. I can't
see that the 4000 produces "better" color prints even
tho it is alleged by Epson to do so.  But I wanted
16x20 prints and so the 4000.  One ice thing about the
4000: my first color print was 16 1/2 by 24! I took
that first print down to my camera store which has 
some knowledgeable photographers and they were very
impressed.  Now in comparison: my B@W on my 2200 was
very satisfying as long as I did Black Only printing. 
When I used all the inks on the 2200 the results were
unsatisfactory.  My 1280, on the other hand, produces
the most neutral B@W. of any of the printers using a
CFS system from MIS and using their ultrachrome hex
inks. As for the 4000, the B@W prints I have made so
far have exhibited the following characteristics: 
Using the Color/BW setting, the B@W prints produced
have a very faint color cast to them.  It is so faint
that if I hold the print up without comparison to
other prints its looks perfectly neutral.  But when
juxtiposed with a true neutral print it looks very
remotely majenta. I was reluctant to use the word
"majenta" because that word conveys memories to me of
numerous struggles with my other printers with that
tone.  You almost can't see it but it's there.  Now,
using the Black only setting, the 4000 produces the
finest results. No metamerism and no tint.  I took
prints made this way and held them alongside eleven
large silver prints hanging on my walls and my
conclusion was that they can compete without blushing.
 I also looked at the print in daylight, florescent,
halogen, and tungsten.  I couldn\ufffdt see any metamerism.
 It might be there but I can\ufffdt see a sign of it.
Having owned the 4000 only a few days, my feeling so
far is I'm impressed.  I know that much lies ahead as
some really excellent printers who know a whole lot
more than I do about digital printing will be working
with the machine and different workflows, inks, etc.,
and working any kinks out for the rest of us who are
no so well-informed.  I look forward to their imput
with happy expectation.  Meanwhile, I can say that out
of the box, the 4000 has exceeded my expectations in
every way.  Please feel free to email me anytime.
Joe D.


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Hi Joe,

I have been trying to find a dealer that has any Epson 4000s for sale that
you aren't a wait list for months. Any suggestions who I might call?

Second question, is there any reason to peruse using quadtone inks in the
4000 and a different workflow and apply curves that partition the inks? I
run my prints right now on an Epson 3000 using Full Spectrum quad tone ink
set on Somerset Velvet and Somerset Photo Enhanced papers. I get mixed
results and am still working with it. My biggest complaint is that the
Somerset Velvet paper hangs up and the ink runs wild on to the rollers and
it is a mess to clean up. Also if the heads are miss aligned just a fraction
of the line on the alignment check, micro banding happens. You have to check
and test after every print made. I am hoping to have better consistency with
the 4000 and quicker print times to finish a print.

I will look forward to further comments by you as you proceed further with
your printing with the 4000

Charlie Dennis

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Davajon [mailto:davajon@...]
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 11:23 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 1280
>
>
> --- brinkker2000 <stevebrink@...> wrote:
> Hi Joe,
> Just curious how do you plan to print B&W with your
> 4000...?  The UltraTone B&W inks I understand make
> good quality B&W ...
> Steve
>
> Steve,
> I've been trying some prints with the 4000.  Color is
> gorgeous!  But so was my 2200 color printing. I can't
> see that the 4000 produces "better" color prints even
> tho it is alleged by Epson to do so.  But I wanted
> 16x20 prints and so the 4000.  One ice thing about the
> 4000: my first color print was 16 1/2 by 24! I took
> that first print down to my camera store which has
> some knowledgeable photographers and they were very
> impressed.  Now in comparison: my B@W on my 2200 was
> very satisfying as long as I did Black Only printing.
> When I used all the inks on the 2200 the results were
> unsatisfactory.  My 1280, on the other hand, produces
> the most neutral B@W. of any of the printers using a
> CFS system from MIS and using their ultrachrome hex
> inks. As for the 4000, the B@W prints I have made so
> far have exhibited the following characteristics:
> Using the Color/BW setting, the B@W prints produced
> have a very faint color cast to them.  It is so faint
> that if I hold the print up without comparison to
> other prints its looks perfectly neutral.  But when
> juxtiposed with a true neutral print it looks very
> remotely majenta. I was reluctant to use the word
> "majenta" because that word conveys memories to me of
> numerous struggles with my other printers with that
> tone.  You almost can't see it but it's there.  Now,
> using the Black only setting, the 4000 produces the
> finest results. No metamerism and no tint.  I took
> prints made this way and held them alongside eleven
> large silver prints hanging on my walls and my
> conclusion was that they can compete without blushing.
>  I also looked at the print in daylight, florescent,
> halogen, and tungsten.  I couldn\ufffdt see any metamerism.
>  It might be there but I can\ufffdt see a sign of it.
> Having owned the 4000 only a few days, my feeling so
> far is I'm impressed.  I know that much lies ahead as
> some really excellent printers who know a whole lot
> more than I do about digital printing will be working
> with the machine and different workflows, inks, etc.,
> and working any kinks out for the rest of us who are
> no so well-informed.  I look forward to their imput
> with happy expectation.  Meanwhile, I can say that out
> of the box, the 4000 has exceeded my expectations in
> every way.  Please feel free to email me anytime.
> Joe D.
>
>
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--- Charlie Dennis <scprints@...> wrote:

---------------------------------
Hi Joe,

I have been trying to find a dealer that has any Epson
4000s for sale that
you aren't a wait list for months. Any suggestions who
I might call?

Hi Steve,
Unfortunately, I can\ufffdt help you with most of your
questions.  I have only used MIS\ufffds UT B@W inks in my
1280.   I\ufffdve had good success with that combination. 
I have used curves only sparingly and my workflow is
straigtforward.  The only papers I have used are The
Condor, HM rag, Epson Matte. (Speaking strictly of
B@W). I know the 4000 has automatically aligned heads
so that should prevent microbanding.  My 4000 has, so
far, performed beautifully as I explained in a recent
post.  Where can you get a 4000?  I tried everywhere
before calling Epson and asking them.  They suggested
I can one of their main venders so I did, and that\ufffds
how I got mine. You might try to contact \ufffdEd\ufffd at
Eximvaios.com.  He was very helpful and I had my
machine a week after calling him.  The 4000 was
dropped shipped to me and I didn\ufffdt have to pay
shipping.  Try calling:  1-888-864-6660  and ask for
Ed.  Let me know if this helps you get one.  




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Hi all
I am having problems with my Epson 1280, which wasn't used for a while. I have used the windex trick to clean it, and aligned the heads with the software. I have a overprint at all dpis of blue lines, the head is still  not aligned right and my color is off ( too cyan) I am using 
gray market dye carts from MIS. I just spoke to a repair person in Florida who told me that the printer is not repairable because to replace the heads would be to costly.
Also every time a a put in a non epson cart I get a pop up saying I am putting in a non epson cart. Is this common?..Anybody have any opinions? Should  I try to repair it ? Any help would be appreciated.
 
Deborah




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HI:

I would get a set of cleaning carts and clean the heck out of the 
heads. I would also try a set of EP carts after this. When I switched 
from a CFS to pigment carts this is what I had to do to get my 
printer working again.

Regards,

Jeff

--- jeffleeg8 <jeff120749@...> wrote:

---------------------------------
HI:

I would get a set of cleaning carts and clean the heck
out of the 
heads. I would also try a set of EP carts after this.
When I switched 
from a CFS to pigment carts this is what I had to do
to get my 
printer working again.

Regards,

Jeff

Hi,
I switched from MIS B@W CIS carts to Epson Color carts
and had perfect color again with just two cleaning
cycles.  No problem.
Joe




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This naive fellow has just gone thru a learning process for printing
B&W with the Epson 220 with MIS ebony neutral black substitutes.
The D max seems weak but I was overall delighted with the printer. I
now wish to move up to a larger paper size, eventually of archival
quality.

Epson is offering a new Epson 1280 for $224, after rebates. Will this
be a good step for me to take? And will MIS be able to offer me the
six B&W inks? (I notice that the Epson 1280 comes with one color and
one black ink. That is confusing to me)

Thankyou so much for giving me a hand          Basejan@...

Jack,

I posted a similar question a week or two ago under PRINTER FOR 11X14
number 82751 I think. The consensus was that the printer has
reliability issues. When I posted the question, refurbed 1280s were at
10% off so they were about $169!

Scott

Hi Basil,

>... just gone thru a learning process for printing B&W 
>with the  Epson 220 with MIS ebony neutral black substitutes.
>The D max seems weak ...

No matte paper has a huge dmax, but with the right one, you should be
getting a good, deep black.  Hahnemuhle Photo Rag has often been considered
the best matte paper, in part due to its good dmax.  Now Premier Art Matte
BW gets the same dmax at a fraction of the price.  If you have not tried it,
you might want to.  
See http://www.premierimagingproducts.com/pm_mattebw.php  and
http://www.itsupplies.com/cgi-bin/itsupplies.storefront/45ad104d055350f02740
4200c14c05f9/Catalog/1623
(cut and paste URL) (ITSupplies sells the Matte BW under one of the older
names, like double sided matte or premier matte.  Look for Premier Art and
210 gsm.)  For a cotton paper with no optical brighteners and a good dmax,
look at Premier Art's Hot Press.  I'm using the 325 weight for my museum
archiving work.

>Epson is offering a new Epson 1280 for $224, after rebates.

They're getting rid of inventory due to the expected introduction of the new
Epson 1400.  See
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=ye
s&oid=63066043&gclid=CI319MTD5YkCFQn4YgoddlXsJg (Cut and paste URL or just
go to Epson and search "1400.")

The 1400 uses the new technology first seen in the 260.  It is un-tested
with pigments at the moment.  However, I expect it to replace the 1280 and
be a major development in printing.

> Will this [the 1280] be a good step for me to take? 

The 1400 is not currently available, nor are the carts for it or inksets
that have been tested with it.  So, the 1400 is not a sure thing.

The 1280 is capable of excellent prints.  However, it has a spotty record
with respect to reliability when pigments are used.  I suspect that the
carts do not fit it as reliably as the more current models, and I also
suspect the small screen in the head was made just for dyes, making it more
likely to clog with pigments.  More modern Epson printers do not seem to
have these problems.  Nonetheless, many have used the 1280 successfully for
years.

>And will MIS be able to offer me the six B&W inks?

The 1280 uses a single color cart that has 5 chambers.  This is considered
one of its shortcomings.  If you buy the cart pre-filled, when one chamber
is empty, you need to replace or refill the entire cart.  I also suspect the
single cart is part of the problem with third part carts not fitting as
reliably.  The printer inlets and cart outlets all need to be manufactured
very precisely.  When printers use individual carts for each color, the
carts may self-center over the inlet peg better.

So, bottom line, the 1280 is a bargain, but it is also an old and relatively
slow printer on the way out that has not had the reliability of the more
modern Epson printers.

Personally, I'm anxious to get my hands on a 1400 and see what we can do
with it, but I don't know when it will be available, or even if it will work
with pigments (but I strongly suspect it will).

Good luck with your B&W printing.

Paul 
www.PaulRoark.com

In a message dated 1/16/07 1:26:56 PM, basejan@... writes:


> This naive fellow has just gone thru a learning process for printing
> B&W with the Epson 220 with MIS ebony neutral black substitutes.
> The D max seems weak but I was overall delighted with the printer. I
> now wish to move up to a larger paper size, eventually of archival
> quality.
> 
> Epson is offering a new Epson 1280 for $224, after rebates. Will this
> be a good step for me to take? And will MIS be able to offer me the
> six B&W inks? (I notice that the Epson 1280 comes with one color and
> one black ink. That is confusing to me)
> 
> Thankyou so much for giving me a hand          Basejan@...
> 

No, No, No.   You'd be moving backwards and wasting money that could be 
applied to a printer with either leading edge tech, or at least designed to do what 
you have in mind. The 1280 (I ran 3 of 'em)
was a good workhorse that was originally a dye printer, but with a piezo 
inkjet was convertible to pigment. The head uses 2 cartridges, one with black ink, 
the other with 5 color inks. Unless you plan to also buy a CIS system and ink 
bottles ( another few hundred dollars), you're limited as to B/W. I ran 
PiezoTone inksets in 2 CIS units, and hassled with air getting in the tubes, nozzle 
clogs and ink spills. Prints were great, but at what level of frustration?
Results with thE R2400 and 2200's have pretty much sounded taps for the 1280 
and we're only talking a few dollars more, w/o the hassles. My vote is NO.

Richard (Brooklyn)


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MIS does have spongeless cartridges for the 1280 -- before these,
refilling was pure hell -- so there are plenty of ink choices
available. My 1280 died and I still have a large supply of ink and
spongeless cartridges, so I am temped to get one of these, but only as
a throw-away. It's a temporary solution so I can match existing
prints; everyone else should steer clear unless they know what they
are in for :). 
 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, CorrPro96@... wrote:
>
> 
> In a message dated 1/16/07 1:26:56 PM, basejan@... writes:
> 
> 
> > This naive fellow has just gone thru a learning process for printing
> > B&W with the Epson 220 with MIS ebony neutral black substitutes.
> > The D max seems weak but I was overall delighted with the printer. I
> > now wish to move up to a larger paper size, eventually of archival
> > quality.
> > 
> > Epson is offering a new Epson 1280 for $224, after rebates. Will this
> > be a good step for me to take? And will MIS be able to offer me the
> > six B&W inks? (I notice that the Epson 1280 comes with one color and
> > one black ink. That is confusing to me)
> > 
> > Thankyou so much for giving me a hand          Basejan@...
> > 
> 
> No, No, No.   You'd be moving backwards and wasting money that could be 
> applied to a printer with either leading edge tech, or at least
designed to do what 
> you have in mind. The 1280 (I ran 3 of 'em)
> was a good workhorse that was originally a dye printer, but with a
piezo 
> inkjet was convertible to pigment. The head uses 2 cartridges, one
with black ink, 
> the other with 5 color inks. Unless you plan to also buy a CIS
system and ink 
> bottles ( another few hundred dollars), you're limited as to B/W. I ran 
> PiezoTone inksets in 2 CIS units, and hassled with air getting in
the tubes, nozzle 
> clogs and ink spills. Prints were great, but at what level of
frustration?
> Results with thE R2400 and 2200's have pretty much sounded taps for
the 1280 
> and we're only talking a few dollars more, w/o the hassles. My vote
is NO.

> 
> Richard (Brooklyn)
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I can second or third the comments about the 1280. I have one - it's  
my only largish printer - and I've made lovely large prints using  
spongeless carts and MIS UT2 inks. However, each time I went to print  
I had to go through a cycle of manual (windex) and automatic  
(cleaning cycles) cleaning that could take ages, after which  
inevitably I had to let the printer rest. So I save up my prints, do  
a big cleanup, and then do a bunch of prints. It's a hassle. I love  
the inks, though.

I use Cone PiezoTone inks in my 1290 (european 1280) with MIS  
spongless carts. This works OK regarding to clogs and need for  
cleaning cycles. I think maybe this printer will work even better  
with Cone K6/7 inks wich I have heard may give completely troublefree  
operation. People report that their problems with clogs have  
dissapared after switching to K6/7 inks. If there was 1290 user among  
these users I don´t know and printers  of the same model may behave  
differently regarding to the same inks.  To conclude I personally  
would go for Cone k6/7 inks if I started out with a 1290 now. - And I  
am going to try Cone Sepia K6 soon...

Well, I scored a nice buy. I found a WORKING Epson 1280 for -- believe it or not -- $25. I just ordered the MIS UT2 inksets and look forward to seeing what I can do now with the R200 and the larger format 1280. 

I'm gonna need a really long USB cord. ;^)

FWIW - some printers are only rated up to about 5metres with USB cables -
after that strange things might happen. I had a 8m cable on a printer in my
office, not a photo type printer, but the scanner and various things
wouldn't co-operate. Changed to 5m cable and all was well...
Not saying this will be a problem for you , but just be aware of it...
Steve
 
  
Well, I scored a nice buy. I found a WORKING Epson 1280 for -- believe it or
not -- $25. I just ordered the MIS UT2 inksets and look forward to seeing
what I can do now with the R200 and the larger format 1280. 

I'm gonna need a really long USB cord. ;^)



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Steve: Thanks. Yes, I am aware. But I only need about 10 to 15 feet -- so 2 to 3 
meters. So it is not a worry for me.

 "It's a good life and somebody has got to live it."
http://www.rustysterling.com




________________________________

From: Steve Woolfenden <swoolf@...>
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 2:19:15 AM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Epson 1280

  
FWIW - some printers are only rated up to about 5metres with USB cables -
after that strange things might happen. I had a 8m cable on a printer in my
office, not a photo type printer, but the scanner and various things
wouldn't co-operate. Changed to 5m cable and all was well...
Not saying this will be a problem for you , but just be aware of it...
Steve


Well, I scored a nice buy. I found a WORKING Epson 1280 for -- believe it or
not -- $25. I just ordered the MIS UT2 inksets and look forward to seeing
what I can do now with the R200 and the larger format 1280. 

I'm gonna need a really long USB cord. ;^)

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

FWIW I'm running my 1280 with an 8 foot USB cable on a PC and all is well.

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rusty
Sterling
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 12:00 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson 1280

 

  

Steve: Thanks. Yes, I am aware. But I only need about 10 to 15 feet -- so 2
to 3 
meters. So it is not a worry for me.

"It's a good life and somebody has got to live it."
http://www.rustysterling.com

________________________________
From: Steve Woolfenden <swoolf@... <mailto:swoolf%40global.co.za> >
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 2:19:15 AM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Epson 1280

FWIW - some printers are only rated up to about 5metres with USB cables -
after that strange things might happen. I had a 8m cable on a printer in my
office, not a photo type printer, but the scanner and various things
wouldn't co-operate. Changed to 5m cable and all was well...
Not saying this will be a problem for you , but just be aware of it...
Steve

Well, I scored a nice buy. I found a WORKING Epson 1280 for -- believe it or
not -- $25. I just ordered the MIS UT2 inksets and look forward to seeing
what I can do now with the R200 and the larger format 1280. 

I'm gonna need a really long USB cord. ;^)

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I just ordered my MIS UT2 cartridges last night and I'm looking forward to 
seeing what I can do with the 1280. I do have a 2880 but I still have color 
printing needs and don't want to convert it to B&W only. So the 1280 will give 
me the wide format I need.

 "It's a good life and somebody has got to live it."
http://www.rustysterling.com




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From: Tom Maugham <Thomas@...>
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 9:07:59 AM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Epson 1280

  
FWIW I'm running my 1280 with an 8 foot USB cable on a PC and all is well.

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rusty
Sterling
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 12:00 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson 1280

Steve: Thanks. Yes, I am aware. But I only need about 10 to 15 feet -- so 2
to 3 
meters. So it is not a worry for me.

"It's a good life and somebody has got to live it."
http://www.rustysterling.com

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From: Steve Woolfenden <swoolf@... <mailto:swoolf%40global.co.za> >
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 2:19:15 AM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Epson 1280

FWIW - some printers are only rated up to about 5metres with USB cables -
after that strange things might happen. I had a 8m cable on a printer in my
office, not a photo type printer, but the scanner and various things
wouldn't co-operate. Changed to 5m cable and all was well...
Not saying this will be a problem for you , but just be aware of it...
Steve

Well, I scored a nice buy. I found a WORKING Epson 1280 for -- believe it or
not -- $25. I just ordered the MIS UT2 inksets and look forward to seeing
what I can do now with the R200 and the larger format 1280. 

I'm gonna need a really long USB cord. ;^)

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Let us know how you fare.  I made the post about prepping the R300, but I have a 1280s too.  I guess I'll either transition the 1280 to BW only eventually, or wind up with a 1400.

If I can figure this stuff out...

David

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Rusty Sterling <rustysterling@...> wrote:

>
> I just ordered my MIS UT2 cartridges last night and I'm looking forward to 
> seeing what I can do with the 1280. I do have a 2880 but I still have color 
> printing needs and don't want to convert it to B&W only. So the 1280 will give 
> me the wide format I need.
> 
>  "It's a good life and somebody has got to live it."
> http://www.rustysterling.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Tom Maugham <Thomas@...>
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 9:07:59 AM
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Epson 1280
> 
>   
> FWIW I'm running my 1280 with an 8 foot USB cable on a PC and all is well.
> 
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rusty
> Sterling
> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 12:00 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson 1280
> 
> Steve: Thanks. Yes, I am aware. But I only need about 10 to 15 feet -- so 2
> to 3 
> meters. So it is not a worry for me.
> 
> "It's a good life and somebody has got to live it."
> http://www.rustysterling.com
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Steve Woolfenden <swoolf@... <mailto:swoolf%40global.co.za> >
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 2:19:15 AM
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Epson 1280
> 
> FWIW - some printers are only rated up to about 5metres with USB cables -
> after that strange things might happen. I had a 8m cable on a printer in my
> office, not a photo type printer, but the scanner and various things
> wouldn't co-operate. Changed to 5m cable and all was well...
> Not saying this will be a problem for you , but just be aware of it...
> Steve
> 
> Well, I scored a nice buy. I found a WORKING Epson 1280 for -- believe it or
> not -- $25. I just ordered the MIS UT2 inksets and look forward to seeing
> what I can do now with the R200 and the larger format 1280. 
> 
> I'm gonna need a really long USB cord. ;^)
> 
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>If I can figure this stuff out...

LOL. You sound like me. 

I choose the 1280 because there is a workflow with the UT2 inkset that let's me 
use the Epson driver instead of QTR. I'm still struggling with QTR but starting 
to get it working with my R200. I'm anxious to see what I can get with the 1280.

 "It's a good life and somebody has got to live it."
http://www.rustysterling.com




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From: dlwearl26 <dlwearl26@...>
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 9:34:17 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 1280

  
Let us know how you fare.  I made the post about prepping the R300, but I have a 
1280s too.  I guess I'll either transition the 1280 to BW only eventually, or 
wind up with a 1400.

If I can figure this stuff out...

David

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Rusty Sterling 
<rustysterling@...> wrote:
>
> I just ordered my MIS UT2 cartridges last night and I'm looking forward to 
> seeing what I can do with the 1280. I do have a 2880 but I still have color 
> printing needs and don't want to convert it to B&W only. So the 1280 will give 

> me the wide format I need.
> 
>  "It's a good life and somebody has got to live it."
> http://www.rustysterling.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Tom Maugham <Thomas@...>
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 9:07:59 AM
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Epson 1280
> 
> 
> FWIW I'm running my 1280 with an 8 foot USB cable on a PC and all is well.
> 
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rusty
> Sterling
> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 12:00 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson 1280
> 
> Steve: Thanks. Yes, I am aware. But I only need about 10 to 15 feet -- so 2
> to 3 
> meters. So it is not a worry for me.
> 
> "It's a good life and somebody has got to live it."
> http://www.rustysterling.com
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Steve Woolfenden <swoolf@... <mailto:swoolf%40global.co.za> >
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> 
> Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 2:19:15 AM
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Epson 1280
> 
> FWIW - some printers are only rated up to about 5metres with USB cables -
> after that strange things might happen. I had a 8m cable on a printer in my
> office, not a photo type printer, but the scanner and various things
> wouldn't co-operate. Changed to 5m cable and all was well...
> Not saying this will be a problem for you , but just be aware of it...
> Steve
> 
> Well, I scored a nice buy. I found a WORKING Epson 1280 for -- believe it or
> not -- $25. I just ordered the MIS UT2 inksets and look forward to seeing
> what I can do now with the R200 and the larger format 1280. 
> 
> I'm gonna need a really long USB cord. ;^)
> 
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Yup, that's only about 2,5 metres , its after 5M that the trouble seems to
start..
Steve
FWIW I'm running my 1280 with an 8 foot USB cable on a PC and all is well.

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> 
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Rusty
Sterling
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 12:00 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson 1280

Steve: Thanks. Yes, I am aware. But I only need about 10 to 15 feet -- so 2
to 3 
meters. So it is not a worry for me.

"It's a good life and somebody has got to live it."
http://www.rustysterling.com

________________________________
From: Steve Woolfenden <swoolf@... <mailto:swoolf%40global.co.za>
<mailto:swoolf%40global.co.za> >
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> 
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 2:19:15 AM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Epson 1280

FWIW - some printers are only rated up to about 5metres with USB cables -
after that strange things might happen. I had a 8m cable on a printer in my
office, not a photo type printer, but the scanner and various things
wouldn't co-operate. Changed to 5m cable and all was well...
Not saying this will be a problem for you , but just be aware of it...
Steve

Well, I scored a nice buy. I found a WORKING Epson 1280 for -- believe it or
not -- $25. I just ordered the MIS UT2 inksets and look forward to seeing
what I can do now with the R200 and the larger format 1280. 

I'm gonna need a really long USB cord. ;^)

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> Yup, that's only about 2,5 metres , its after 5M that the trouble seems to
> start..

Not surprising - USB was only designed to work with 3 metre cables for 
low-speed devices, and 5 metre lengths for highspeed devices.

http://www.usb.org/about/faq/ans5

bob Frost

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From: "Steve Woolfenden" <swoolf@...>

It would have been nice if "they" had chosen to let us mere mortals know
this beforehand - would have saved me a lot of time and aggravation , and
blood pressure issues..
I would like to string up the #$%^%^&'s who make the 8m cable I bought and
the little snot in the shop I bought it from...
Steve
 
> Yup, that's only about 2,5 metres , its after 5M that the trouble seems to
> start..

Not surprising - USB was only designed to work with 3 metre cables for 
low-speed devices, and 5 metre lengths for highspeed devices.

http://www.usb.org/about/faq/ans5

bob Frost

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From: "Steve Woolfenden" <swoolf@... <mailto:swoolf%40global.co.za>
>





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You can buy a powered USB repeater, they are not expensive and may help with
your problem.
 
Here is an example
http://www.amazon.com/Speed-Active-Extension-Repeater-Cable/dp/B000FSTKO4
 
Hope this helps
 
MK

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Woolfenden
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 8:27 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Epson 1280


  

It would have been nice if "they" had chosen to let us mere mortals know
this beforehand - would have saved me a lot of time and aggravation , and
blood pressure issues..
I would like to string up the #$%^%^&'s who make the 8m cable I bought and
the little snot in the shop I bought it from...
Steve





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