Digital BW, The Print

Thanks Peter. I see I have to some more study on this program, but on
the 
mac, it doesn't seem to be all that intuitive. Once again, WHY is it so
much better than, say, the Agfa or Polaroid or Nikon software?

Jerry

zonepeter wrote:

> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson
> <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> > I have a question concerning VUEscan. I've been through every panel
> in
> > the advanced mode, but I can't find a thing on adjusting levels or
> > curves. Also, the highest resolution I can scan at for the Agfa
> T2500 is
> > 1250 DPI.  That isn't good enough for 6x6 films, I need the full
> 2500
> > DPI.  Am I missing something, or doesn't vuescan support higher DPI
> or
> > levels or curves? Also, VUEscan runs directly from its folder on the
> > desktop. SHouldn't it actually be installed in the system folder?
> There
> > is no installation program to do this.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jerry
> 
> Jerry,
> I have a Microtek 2500,which I think is the same as the Duoscan.
> I have only sampled Vuescan, but it seems to work well.  Try the
> following to get 2500 DPI: in the device tab go into the scan mode
> box.  Select Transparency X2  This will double the resolution and
> activate the 4" high resolution area.
> Hope this helps.
> Peter
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For BW I got better, 'fatter' histos than with silverfast or the epson
twain. For colour it varies greatly between scanner types I've found -
sometimes generating weird casts. Just scan as a 16bit 'image' file at full
optical res with the endpoints wide open if you are having problems with
them. Adjust in PS so you have one pixel clipping at each end and then
compare that scan with your fave method - as a raw scan mind you.

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Olson" <jerryolson@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Vuescan


> Thanks Peter. I see I have to some more study on this program, but on
> the
> mac, it doesn't seem to be all that intuitive. Once again, WHY is it so
> much better than, say, the Agfa or Polaroid or Nikon software?
>
> Jerry
>
> zonepeter wrote:
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson
> > <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> > > I have a question concerning VUEscan. I've been through every panel
> > in
> > > the advanced mode, but I can't find a thing on adjusting levels or
> > > curves. Also, the highest resolution I can scan at for the Agfa
> > T2500 is
> > > 1250 DPI.  That isn't good enough for 6x6 films, I need the full
> > 2500
> > > DPI.  Am I missing something, or doesn't vuescan support higher DPI
> > or
> > > levels or curves? Also, VUEscan runs directly from its folder on the
> > > desktop. SHouldn't it actually be installed in the system folder?
> > There
> > > is no installation program to do this.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Jerry
> >
> > Jerry,
> > I have a Microtek 2500,which I think is the same as the Duoscan.
> > I have only sampled Vuescan, but it seems to work well.  Try the
> > following to get 2500 DPI: in the device tab go into the scan mode
> > box.  Select Transparency X2  This will double the resolution and
> > activate the 4" high resolution area.
> > Hope this helps.
> > Peter
> >
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and
other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
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Since no one else took the bait ("...again, WHY is it so
> much better..."), I'll throw my 2 cents in.

I haven't used Polariod or Nikon scanning software, I've used two 
flavors of Agfa software, one that comes with their cheap scanners 
and one that they ship with their more expensive scanners, and the 
Canon software that comes with their 35mm film scanner. Based on that 
background, I'd say the advantages of Vuescan are:

1. It makes it pretty easy to get a so-called "raw" scan
2. If you want to try different adjustments within Vuescan on an 
image, you can do so using the in-memory copy of the image. With most 
other scanning software, you would have to re-scan the neg each time, 
which would be a much slower process.
3. It comes with a bunch of canned curves to handle color negative 
films.
4. For some reason, it manages to run the scanner faster than the 
manufacturer's software.

...Ben


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson 
<jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> Thanks Peter. I see I have to some more study on this program, but 
on
> the 
> mac, it doesn't seem to be all that intuitive. Once again, WHY is 
it so
> much better than, say, the Agfa or Polaroid or Nikon software?
> 
> Jerry
> 
> zonepeter wrote:
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson
> > <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> > > I have a question concerning VUEscan. I've been through every 
panel
> > in
> > > the advanced mode, but I can't find a thing on adjusting levels 
or
> > > curves. Also, the highest resolution I can scan at for the Agfa
> > T2500 is
> > > 1250 DPI.  That isn't good enough for 6x6 films, I need the full
> > 2500
> > > DPI.  Am I missing something, or doesn't vuescan support higher 
DPI
> > or
> > > levels or curves? Also, VUEscan runs directly from its folder 
on the
> > > desktop. SHouldn't it actually be installed in the system 
folder?
> > There
> > > is no installation program to do this.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > 
> > Jerry,
> > I have a Microtek 2500,which I think is the same as the Duoscan.
> > I have only sampled Vuescan, but it seems to work well.  Try the
> > following to get 2500 DPI: in the device tab go into the scan mode
> > box.  Select Transparency X2  This will double the resolution and
> > activate the 4" high resolution area.
> > Hope this helps.
> > Peter
> > 
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, 
Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page 
is at:
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> > 
> > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you 
wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by 
visiting this same page.
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> > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier 
messages to keep them short.
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header.
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&amp;amp;quot;flames.&amp;amp;quot;
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> > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the 
various resources on the homepage.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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It is only "so much better" because some other scanner software is so 
bad.  Frankly, with my EPSON Perfection 2450 dummy software I get 
better starting point scans from the scanner than from Vuescan, but 
with my Dual Scan II (who's software really sucks) I only get good 
scans when I use Vuescan.  Vuescan does it's job pretty well...

mark

...
> Since no one else took the bait ("...again, WHY is it so
> > much better..."), I'll throw my 2 cents in.
...