Digital BW, The Print

Does anyone know if there are curves available or planned for the new 
Ultratone inks and an Epson 1200?  

Steve

Steve,

The Ultra Tone inkset has the same densities as the MIS VM inkset, so the
existing curves should work fairly well.  I designed the UT inkset so that
it gave me a neutral ("selenium") tone with the old 1160 "nc" curves.

That said, all inks absorb with slightly different characteristics, so
optimized curves may be better.  However, most of the image improvement that
has been noted with the 1160 and its new curves is due to my having learned
a lot about curves in the last 2 years.  The old curves worked about as well
for UT inkset as they did with the vm inkset.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com
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Subject: [Digital BW] Ultratone inks and the 1200


Does anyone know if there are curves available or planned for the new
Ultratone inks and an Epson 1200?

Steve



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Paul,

Does your statement -- "However, most of the image improvement that
has been noted with the 1160 and its new curves is due to my having learned a lot about curves in the last 2 years.  The old curves worked about as well for UT inkset as they did with the vm inkset." --  imply that the ultratone curves for the 1160 would give better results than the old 1160 VM curves when using VM ink?

Further questions -- is the black ink the only one that is necessary to change to get rid of the problems with semi-gloss paper?  If so, is it reasonable to just swap out the black cartridge when printing on semi-gloss?  How many purge pages does it take to clear?  I am assuming the cartridges self seal -- is this right?

Bob

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From: "Robert Paup"
<snip>> Further questions -- is the black ink the only one that is necessary
to change to get rid of the problems with semi-gloss paper?  If so, is it
reasonable to just swap out the black cartridge when printing on semi-gloss?
How many purge pages does it take to clear?  I am assuming the cartridges
self seal -- is this right?
>
> Bob

The 1160 carts do not self seal - that feature was introduced with later
model printers. You will have to get some rivets from MIS, or one of the
other plugs available for the exit ports on the carts.  -BK

Bob,

>Does your statement -- "However, most of the image improvement that
>has been noted with the 1160 and its new curves is due to my having learned
>a lot about curves in the last 2 years.  The old curves worked about as
well >for UT inkset as they did with the vm inkset." --  imply that the
ultratone >curves for the 1160 would give better results than the old 1160
VM
>curves when using VM ink?

Probably not.  The highlights will be smoother.  However, there are some
absorption differences that may make the ramp with the old vm inks less
smooth.

>Further questions -- is the black ink the only one that is necessary
>to change to get rid of the problems with semi-gloss paper?

Yes.  Just stick in a "Photo black"  (like I just did this morning).

> If so, is it reasonable to just swap out the black cartridge when printing
>on semi-gloss?

Yes.

> How many purge pages does it take to clear?  I am assuming the
>cartridges self seal -- is this right?

I just put in a fresh/new cart, and it took no cleaning.  However, when I
put in a half used cart, there is typically some air that gets in the line.
I think 3 cleaning cycles is typically what it takes, but I've never paid
that much attention.  Printing purge pages is too slow for an impatient
person like me.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

>The 1160 carts do not self seal - that feature was introduced with later
>model printers. You will have to get some rivets from MIS, or one of the
>other plugs available for the exit ports on the carts.  -BK


I don't like their rivets.  I just put some tape over the outlets.  They
leak very little.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

Anyone try using both the Eboni and Photo blacks in CFS's and 
swapping them out when going from matte to glossy? Seems like tape 
would work here. My only concern would be with clogging in the line 
if either black were left idle for too long.

Chris Hargens

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> 
> >The 1160 carts do not self seal - that feature was introduced with 
laterI , or one of the
> >other plugs available for the exit ports on the carts.  -BK
> 
> 
> I don't like their rivets.  I just put some tape over the outlets.  
They

> leak very little.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com