Digital BW, The Print

Paul: do you/MIS have any plans to port the UT-2 inkset and workflow 
to wide-format printers?  (I know you've said you're looking at doing 
it for the 4000, but I'm wondering about wider format, like current 
(or older) printers in the 44 inch range).

I ask because I'm considering getting a wide-format printer w. a 
grayscale inkset, and don't want to spend a zillion dollars on an RIP 
(e.g., the Septone system for the Epson 7600/9600 costs $2400 because 
you have to buy their RIP to use the inks).  Alternatively, if you 
don't envision the UT-2 inkset going the wide format route, any input 
on carbon-based wide format inksets that don't require the use of an 
expensive RIP?

>Paul: do you/MIS have any plans to port the UT-2 inkset and workflow 
>to wide-format printers?  ...

It's uncertain at this point.  I may not bother with my 7500.  Frankly, I'm
not sure the 7500 is up to the job of running the UT2 inkset, but it does
very well with UT1 & matte paper.

>any input on carbon-based wide format inksets that don't require the 
>use of an expensive RIP?

Well, the 7500/7000/9500/9000 all run UT fine.  I use the 7000 driver even
with the 7500, and that is what my curves were written for.  Some Mac users
report that they cannot get the 7000 driver to run the 7500.  I'm not a Mac
person, so I don't know why the system won't allow this.  On PC one can
manually set the printer & port.


Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

But does the UT 1 inkset run fine on thesse printers without the use 
of an RIP or complicated software tweaks?  That's what I'm trying to 
get away fromand what interests me about the very little I know about 
the UT-2 inkset.

Perhaps a better question, for the benefit of those like me who have 
no experience with either inkset, is: what exactly is easier about 
using the UT-2 inkset v. the UT-1 inkset?


> 
> Well, the 7500/7000/9500/9000 all run UT fine.  I use the 7000 
driver even
> with the 7500, and that is what my curves were written for.  Some 
Mac users
> report that they cannot get the 7000 driver to run the 7500.  I'm 
not a Mac
> person, so I don't know why the system won't allow this.  On PC one 
can

> manually set the printer & port.
> 
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com

>But does the UT 1 inkset run fine on thesse printers without the use 
>of an RIP or complicated software tweaks?  That's what I'm trying to 
>get away from and what interests me about the very little I know about 
>the UT-2 inkset.

Photoshop image adjustment curves are used to control the inks.  The basic
workflow is to edit in grayscale, save that file, then convert the image to
RGB, apply the tone curve you want, print and delete the RGB file.

>Perhaps a better question, for the benefit of those like me who have 
>no experience with either inkset, is: what exactly is easier about 
>using the UT-2 inkset v. the UT-1 inkset?

I don't think the UT2 inkset is easier the way I use it.  I continue to use
curves to control printing.  However, it will print in the medium tones
without the use of curves.  This opens up non-Photoshop applications, which
is important to some.  My interest in the inkset has more to do with the
sepia end and its better glossy printing.

Paul

www.PaulRoark.com 
______________________________

> 
>> the 7500/7000/9500/9000 all run UT fine.  I use the 7000 driver even
>> with the 7500, and that is what my curves were written for.  
>>Some Mac users report that they cannot get the 7000 driver to run 
>>the 7500.  I'm not a Mac person, so I don't know why the system 
>>won't allow this.  On PC one can manually set the printer & port.

Paul,

As I am not looking for a sepia toner, is it possible
to use the blue toner in the Y and LC positions to
retain the ease of UT-2?

Thanks,
Don
 
--- Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote:

> 
> I don't think the UT2 inkset is easier the way I use
> it.  I continue to use
> curves to control printing.  However, it will print
> in the medium tones
> without the use of curves.  This opens up
> non-Photoshop applications, which
> is important to some.  My interest in the inkset has
> more to do with the
> sepia end and its better glossy printing.
> 
> Paul
> 
> www.PaulRoark.com 


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Don,

>As I am not looking for a sepia toner, is it possible
>to use the blue toner in the Y and LC positions to
>retain the ease of UT-2?

If you have a large format 7000, 7500, 9000, or 9500 printer and are able to
use the 7500 or 9500 driver to drive it, then the UT1 inkset (no sepia
toner) is what I recommend.  Converting a grayscale file to RGB and applying
a curve for printing is not difficult -- as long as the curves are already
written.  

I don't think the UT2 inkset is going to be easier for you on these
printers.  If you try to modify it, then things really get complex.  Unless
you are very experienced, I'd stick with an inkset and workflow that have
been made for each other and well tested -- like the UT1 and 7500 (7000
driver) curves for the above printers.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 
_______________________________


--- Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote:

> 
> I don't think the UT2 inkset is easier the way I use
> it.  I continue to use
> curves to control printing.  However, it will print
> in the medium tones
> without the use of curves.  This opens up
> non-Photoshop applications, which
> is important to some.  My interest in the inkset has
> more to do with the
> sepia end and its better glossy printing.
> 
> Paul
> 
> www.PaulRoark.com 


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Paul,

I'm using a 1280 for printing.  I have used the R9
driver up to this point - but would prefer to use the
epson driver.

This morning I ordered a UT-2 cartridge to try it out.

Thanks,
Don

--- Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote:
> Don,
> 
> >As I am not looking for a sepia toner, is it
> possible
> >to use the blue toner in the Y and LC positions to
> >retain the ease of UT-2?
> 
> If you have a large format 7000, 7500, 9000, or 9500
> printer and are able to
> use the 7500 or 9500 driver to drive it, then the
> UT1 inkset (no sepia
> toner) is what I recommend.  Converting a grayscale
> file to RGB and applying
> a curve for printing is not difficult -- as long as
> the curves are already
> written.  
> 
> I don't think the UT2 inkset is going to be easier
> for you on these
> printers.  If you try to modify it, then things
> really get complex.  Unless
> you are very experienced, I'd stick with an inkset
> and workflow that have
> been made for each other and well tested -- like the
> UT1 and 7500 (7000
> driver) curves for the above printers.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> _______________________________


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I was just surfing around while considering to
purchase a Minolta Scan Dual III, when my suprised
eyes found the Scan Dual IV due in February.

It has 3200 optical resolution, and a USB 2.0
connection.  I think I'll sell the epson flatbed and
buy one of these...

The specs look fantastic - and I was impressed with
the quality of the Scan Dual II

Don


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