Digital BW, The Print

I received the 2200, and my Win XP appeared to have a driver already loaded
for it.  The appearance of the driver was just like the usual newer Epson
drivers.  However, the shadow UT2 densities were not smooth.  Being curious
what the driver on the CD that came with the printer would look like, I
loaded that one.  Suddenly the shadow tones were smooth.

 

Questions - Has anyone else noticed driver differences?  Do most stay with
the pre-loaded XP driver or load the one from the CD?

 

(UT2 will not run as is on the 2200; some work is needed.)

 

Paul

www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>    

 

For UT2-Readme information and settings see:

http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ 



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Paul,

Now you've got me wondering.  I recently downloaded the 2200 driver 
from Epson's website as it was a newer version than what originally 
came with my printer.  I'm assuming the driver on their site is the 
same as came on the CD, but I'm not sure.  I'm also wondering if I 
should do some comparisons (regarding B&W) between the old driver 
and the newer one ???  Haven't noticed any problems though with the 
new driver.

Tony Bonanno

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Questions - Has anyone else noticed driver differences?  Do most 
stay with

> the pre-loaded XP driver or load the one from the CD?
> 
>  
> 
> (UT2 will not run as is on the 2200; some work is needed.)
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>    
> 
>  
> 
> For UT2-Readme information and settings see:
> 
> http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Paul,

Should have mentioned that the Windows XP driver from Epson for the 
2200 that I'm using is version 5.40.

Tony

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Bonanno" 
<tony@y...> wrote:
> Paul,
> 
> Now you've got me wondering.  I recently downloaded the 2200 
driver 
> from Epson's website as it was a newer version than what 
originally 
> came with my printer.  I'm assuming the driver on their site is 
the 
> same as came on the CD, but I'm not sure.  I'm also wondering if I 
> should do some comparisons (regarding B&W) between the old driver 
> and the newer one ???  Haven't noticed any problems though with 
the 

> new driver.
> 
> Tony Bonanno
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
> <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > Questions - Has anyone else noticed driver differences?  Do most 
> stay with
> > the pre-loaded XP driver or load the one from the CD?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > (UT2 will not run as is on the 2200; some work is needed.)
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> > www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>    
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > For UT2-Readme information and settings see:
> > 
> > http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Paul... for any of the Epson printers (and prob any other brand) I would use the latest driver available on the Epson (or whatever) website.  The drivers on XP and the included XP CD are almost never the latest available.... Go to the epson site, check the version numbers, download the latest and use them.

Jerry in Houston

<<I received the 2200, and my Win XP appeared to have a 
driver already loaded
for it.  The appearance of the driver was just like 
the usual newer Epson
drivers.  However, the shadow UT2 densities were not 
smooth.  Being curious
what the driver on the CD that came with the printer 
would look like, I
loaded that one.  Suddenly the shadow tones were 
smooth.

 

Questions - Has anyone else noticed driver 
differences?  Do most stay with
the pre-loaded XP driver or load the one from the CD?>>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Tony,
I had a bad experience with the version 5.4 drivers. Once installed, all of
my colour printing got super saturated. All of my B&W printing, using Carl
Schofield's method from the Luminous Landscape site, became pinkish or
greenish hues. I tried all solutions in vain. I replaced the 5.31 version
and all returned to normal.
I won't use the 5.4 version after that experience.

Owen Evans
J.33.3

" Many men stumble across the truth, but most
manage to pick themselves up and continue
as if nothing had happened."
--Winston Churchill--

Hi Owen,

I have two Windows XP workstations in the studio, one of them still 
has the old version 5.31 driver on it.  I just made a few comparison 
prints between the two drivers (5.40 & 5.31) using EEM paper and my 
normal workflow which includes the Gray Balancer software (I seem to 
be one of the few getting good results with the Gray Balancer for 
controlling metamerism).  The test pics, for all practical purposes, 
were the same.  Not sure what happened on your system or whether the 
use of the Gray Balancer canceled out any differences ???  I haven't 
tried Carl Schofield's method though.  May try it soon and see if 
any differences.

Tony Bonanno

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Owen P. Evans" 
<owenpevans@r...> wrote:
> Hi Tony,
> I had a bad experience with the version 5.4 drivers. Once 
installed, all of
> my colour printing got super saturated. All of my B&W printing, 
using Carl
> Schofield's method from the Luminous Landscape site, became 
pinkish or
> greenish hues. I tried all solutions in vain. I replaced the 5.31 
version

> and all returned to normal.
> I won't use the 5.4 version after that experience.
> 
> Owen Evans
> J.33.3
> 
> " Many men stumble across the truth, but most
> manage to pick themselves up and continue
> as if nothing had happened."
> --Winston Churchill--

Given the way that MSFT QA's non MSFT written drivers this advice is 100%
true.  Most of the in-box printer drivers in XP were required to be finished
prior to XP shipping.  In addition MSFT has restrictions on things like
status monitors and other items being included in-box so you will almost
always get better features by using the download versions.
 
regards
Brentley

  _____  

From: Jerry in Houston [mailto:glewis4457@...] 
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 17:35
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: 2200 drivers



Paul... for any of the Epson printers (and prob any other brand) I would use
the latest driver available on the Epson (or whatever) website.  The drivers
on XP and the included XP CD are almost never the latest available.... Go to
the epson site, check the version numbers, download the latest and use them.

Jerry in Houston

<<I received the 2200, and my Win XP appeared to have a 
driver already loaded
for it.  The appearance of the driver was just like 
the usual newer Epson
drivers.  However, the shadow UT2 densities were not 
smooth.  Being curious
what the driver on the CD that came with the printer 
would look like, I
loaded that one.  Suddenly the shadow tones were 
smooth.



Questions - Has anyone else noticed driver 
differences?  Do most stay with
the pre-loaded XP driver or load the one from the CD?>>



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Hi Paul-

Just noticed your post...I've been gone for a few days...bet you love 
the 2200 !!!

As for the drivers, I use the one from the cd that came with the 
printer. A number of folks upgraded to the 5.4x versions that are 
available on the Epson website and regretted it...especially any who 
were using Image Print or other RIPs. Don't exactly know why, but the 
5.31 is stable, works and I'm sticking with it for now.

cheers,

Tom O'Connell


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> I received the 2200, and my Win XP appeared to have a driver 
already loaded
> for it.  The appearance of the driver was just like the usual newer 
Epson
> drivers.  However, the shadow UT2 densities were not smooth.  Being 
curious
> what the driver on the CD that came with the printer would look 
like, I
> loaded that one.  Suddenly the shadow tones were smooth.
> 
>  
> 
> Questions - Has anyone else noticed driver differences?  Do most 
stay with

> the pre-loaded XP driver or load the one from the CD?
> 
>  
> 
> (UT2 will not run as is on the 2200; some work is needed.)
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>    
> 
>  
> 
> For UT2-Readme information and settings see:
> 
> http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Tom,

>Just noticed your post...I've been gone for a few days...
>bet you love the 2200 !!!

Well ...  

Let's say that for most B&W printers a good refurbished 1280 looks like a
real bargain to me.  Those separate 2200 carts are handy for someone like
me, but all those chips to mess with for quality that is not visibly better
to me is a real questionable expenditure of money.  The speed is the main
difference that might matter to most if a CFS were installed.

>As for the drivers, I use the one from the cd that came with the 
>printer. ...

I'm using the 5.40 that came with the CD.  It seems to be fine.   Hopefully
any upgrades at this point will not alter the ramps for the curves I've
written.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com  

For UT2 information and settings see:
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ 

__________________________________________

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> I received the 2200, and my Win XP appeared to have a driver 
already loaded
> for it.  The appearance of the driver was just like the usual newer 
Epson
> drivers.  However, the shadow UT2 densities were not smooth.  Being 
curious
> what the driver on the CD that came with the printer would look 
like, I
> loaded that one.  Suddenly the shadow tones were smooth.
> 
>  
> 
> Questions - Has anyone else noticed driver differences?  Do most 
stay with
> the pre-loaded XP driver or load the one from the CD?
> 
>  
> 
> (UT2 will not run as is on the 2200; some work is needed.)
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>    
> 
>  
> 
> For UT2-Readme information and settings see:
> 
> http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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