Digital BW, The Print

A few of us have been doing an informal BO postcard exchange. Getting 
some excellent examples for comparison. If you want to join in email 
me direct - no rules no deadlines. 5 X 7 prints are surviving the mail
well - they require $.37 postage.

AZ

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Hello Alan,

>A few of us have been doing an informal BO postcard exchange.

I tried sending you an email but it bounced.  Can you send me one and
see if it gets to me?

Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

At 12:59 PM Thursday 3/18/04, you wrote:
>I tried sending you an email but it bounced.  Can you send me one and
>see if it gets to me?

Same here.

Richard

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Same here, I got a delivery failure.
Cheers,
George

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> Hello Alan,
> 
> >A few of us have been doing an informal BO postcard exchange.
> 
> I tried sending you an email but it bounced.  Can you send me one and
> see if it gets to me?
> 
> Regards,
> Clayton
> 
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Does anybody know of a film scanner in which the film
holder can be modified to scan the entire frame of
film with the black borders?

My darkroom days were filled with filed negative
carriers - as I prefer the look of printing the
unexposed film edges.

Oh, and the photoshop plugins that simulate the look
are a bit cheesy.

So, I am looking for a dedicated film scanner that
will provide at least a 26x38 read area.  Have any of
you filed or altered your film scanners to do this?

Thanks in advance,
Don

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On 3/19/04 1:11 PM, "D. Hill" <hill14701@...> wrote:

> Does anybody know of a film scanner in which the film
> holder can be modified to scan the entire frame of
> film with the black borders?


My Howtek 4500 does this.  I scan all my film this way.

Lawrence


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D. Hill wrote:
> Does anybody know of a film scanner in which the film
> holder can be modified to scan the entire frame of
> film with the black borders?
> 
> My darkroom days were filled with filed negative
> carriers - as I prefer the look of printing the
> unexposed film edges.
> 
> Oh, and the photoshop plugins that simulate the look
> are a bit cheesy.
> 
> So, I am looking for a dedicated film scanner that
> will provide at least a 26x38 read area.  Have any of
> you filed or altered your film scanners to do this?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Don

The Wess ABX500K  slide mounts are exactly 36 x 24.4 mm wide. 
That is most of the time enough to get the edges scanned without 
too much stray light entering. You can always scrape the window a 
bit wider with a knife. I've a reputation of filling out enlarger 
carriers and reshaping scanner carriers but in this case I prefer 
the slide mounts + slide carrier.

If you want the sprocket holes etc included then you need a MF 
scanner with a glass carrier. There's a lot lost by the stray 
light though.

Ernst

The film strip holders for my Minolta Dimage Scan Elite 5400 
allows the entire frame to be scanned, but, of course, doesn't go 
out to the sprocket holes (something I thought was cool looking 
a long time ago, but which I quickly grew weary of).  It *is* 
important to me that the entire "live" film area be available when I 
want it (which is most of the time).

With mounted slides, of course. It's a bit tougher: most plastic 
mounts don't work well in the slide film holders of many film 
scanners, especially dedicated 35mm scanners.  There is - or 
was - one cardboard mount used by some European labs which 
used an oversize, square aperture going just beyond 24x36mm.

- Barrett

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "D. Hill" 
<hill14701@y...> wrote:

> Does anybody know of a film scanner in which the film
> holder can be modified to scan the entire frame of
> film with the black borders?
> 
> My darkroom days were filled with filed negative
> carriers - as I prefer the look of printing the
> unexposed film edges.
> 
> Oh, and the photoshop plugins that simulate the look
> are a bit cheesy.
> 
> So, I am looking for a dedicated film scanner that
> will provide at least a 26x38 read area.  Have any of
> you filed or altered your film scanners to do this?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Don
> 
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Barrett,

Thanks for your input as this is the scanner I am
considering for purchase, and it is great to hear that
you can get the full view of the negative.  I am not
interested in scanning out to the film sprockets, but
just a sliver of the unexposed edge around the image. 
I am not opposed to using a enlarged slide mount.

If I recall, there are gepe slide mounts that have a
40x40mm opening - possibly these would allow the
largest film scan available. Specs of the unit show
that it scans at 24.61 x 36.69mm - so I may be able to
utilize this scanner.

Thanks again for the input.

Don 

--- Barrett Benton <bwbenton@...> wrote:
> The film strip holders for my Minolta Dimage Scan
> Elite 5400 
> allows the entire frame to be scanned, but, of
> course, doesn't go 
> out to the sprocket holes (something I thought was
> cool looking 
> a long time ago, but which I quickly grew weary of).
>  It *is* 
> important to me that the entire "live" film area be
> available when I 
> want it (which is most of the time).
> 
> With mounted slides, of course. It's a bit tougher:
> most plastic 
> mounts don't work well in the slide film holders of
> many film 
> scanners, especially dedicated 35mm scanners.  There
> is - or 
> was - one cardboard mount used by some European labs
> which 
> used an oversize, square aperture going just beyond
> 24x36mm.
> 
> - Barrett


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Your other alternative is a 120 format scanner with a glass neg 
carrier, such as the Nikon 8000/9000ED. The glass carrier is 250.00 
extra, but does a good job of keeping either format completely flat, 
and obviuosly would give you all your 35mm slide, and then some.
Also, a flatbed would do the same, though a flatbed that's as sharp 
as either the Polaroid or the Nikon might cost even more.

Steven Karafyllakis


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "D. Hill" 
<hill14701@y...> wrote:

> Barrett,
> 
> Thanks for your input as this is the scanner I am
> considering for purchase, and it is great to hear that
> you can get the full view of the negative.  I am not
> interested in scanning out to the film sprockets, but
> just a sliver of the unexposed edge around the image. 
> I am not opposed to using a enlarged slide mount.
> 
> If I recall, there are gepe slide mounts that have a
> 40x40mm opening - possibly these would allow the
> largest film scan available. Specs of the unit show
> that it scans at 24.61 x 36.69mm - so I may be able to
> utilize this scanner.
> 
> Thanks again for the input.
> 
> Don 
> 
> --- Barrett Benton <bwbenton@b...> wrote:
> > The film strip holders for my Minolta Dimage Scan
> > Elite 5400 
> > allows the entire frame to be scanned, but, of
> > course, doesn't go 
> > out to the sprocket holes (something I thought was
> > cool looking 
> > a long time ago, but which I quickly grew weary of).
> >  It *is* 
> > important to me that the entire "live" film area be
> > available when I 
> > want it (which is most of the time).
> > 
> > With mounted slides, of course. It's a bit tougher:
> > most plastic 
> > mounts don't work well in the slide film holders of
> > many film 
> > scanners, especially dedicated 35mm scanners.  There
> > is - or 
> > was - one cardboard mount used by some European labs
> > which 
> > used an oversize, square aperture going just beyond
> > 24x36mm.
> > 
> > - Barrett
> 
> 
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