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2004-04-30 by robayophoto
hi im new to this group. im pulling my hair out trying to get a good toned black and white print from my epson 2200. im ready to go back to the darkroom just to print out my black and white,,, but i want to know where can i get info on print b&w on the epson,, i want nice warm tone prints... please direct where on this site i can find some info. thanks
2004-04-30 by Paul Roark
Keep an eye on http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/qn.html. UT7, the variable-tone B&W inkset for the 2200 will soon be released. Paul www.PaulRoark.com For UT2 information, curves, and settings see: http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ ________________________________________
-----Original Message----- From: robayophoto [mailto:pat@...] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 7:54 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] new to this group hi im new to this group. im pulling my hair out trying to get a good toned black and white print from my epson 2200. im ready to go back to the darkroom just to print out my black and white,,, but i want to know where can i get info on print b&w on the epson,, i want nice warm tone prints... please direct where on this site i can find some info. thanks Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
2004-04-30 by Tyler Boley
If you are on a MAC look at QTR- http://harrington.com/QuadToneRIP.html I believe there are good options for nice warm prints without changing to a 3rd party inkset. Others here will be able to tell you more. Tyler --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "robayophoto" <pat@r...> wrote:
> hi im new to this group. > im pulling my hair out trying to get a good toned black and white > print from my epson 2200. > im ready to go back to the darkroom just to print out my black and > white,,, but i want to know where can i get info on print b&w on the > epson,, i want nice warm tone prints... > > please direct where on this site i can find some info. > > > thanks
2004-04-30 by robayophoto
im using a pc --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" <tyler@t...> wrote: > If you are on a MAC look at QTR- > http://harrington.com/QuadToneRIP.html > I believe there are good options for nice warm prints without changing > to a 3rd party inkset. Others here will be able to tell you more. > Tyler > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "robayophoto" > <pat@r...> wrote: > > hi im new to this group. > > im pulling my hair out trying to get a good toned black and white > > print from my epson 2200. > > im ready to go back to the darkroom just to print out my black and > > white,,, but i want to know where can i get info on print b&w on the
> > epson,, i want nice warm tone prints... > > > > please direct where on this site i can find some info. > > > > > > thanks
2004-04-30 by Tina Manley
At 07:46 PM 4/30/2004 +0000, you wrote: >im ready to go back to the darkroom just to print out my black and >white,,, but i want to know where can i get info on print b&w on the >epson,, i want nice warm tone prints... > >thanks The software mentioned earlier - PhotoKit - has toners that you apply to the photo as layers in PhotoShop. The sepia and brown tones will give you a beautiful warm tone B&W printed with the 2200 and its original inks. You will have to convert the photo to RGB, but that's easy enough. It's the best money I ever spent on software, besides PhotoShop. http://pixelgenius.com/photokit-gallery/index.html Hope this helps - Tina Tina Manley, ASMP www.tinamanley.com http://www.pdiphotos.com http://www.workbookstock.com http://www.newscom.com http://www.americanphotojournalist.com
2004-04-30 by Michael Kitei
Check out www.bowhaus.com/inkjetcontrol/ . They have a free product called open printmaker that does a nice job using the black, light black, inks to produce a warm black print. Mike
From: Tina Manley <images@...> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:59:42 -0400 To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: new to this group At 07:46 PM 4/30/2004 +0000, you wrote: >im ready to go back to the darkroom just to print out my black and >white,,, but i want to know where can i get info on print b&w on the >epson,, i want nice warm tone prints... > >thanks The software mentioned earlier - PhotoKit - has toners that you apply to the photo as layers in PhotoShop. The sepia and brown tones will give you a beautiful warm tone B&W printed with the 2200 and its original inks. You will have to convert the photo to RGB, but that's easy enough. It's the best money I ever spent on software, besides PhotoShop. http://pixelgenius.com/photokit-gallery/index.html Hope this helps - Tina Tina Manley, ASMP www.tinamanley.com http://www.pdiphotos.com http://www.workbookstock.com http://www.newscom.com http://www.americanphotojournalist.com Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Uns ubscribe> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-04-30 by Clayton Jones
>please direct where on this site i can find some info. Info on black and white digital printing at http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm Regards, Clayton
2004-04-30 by Ken Carney
I can tell you what I do, though I don't have a very good technical
explanation. I use Epson UC inks in my 2200. For neutral tone b&w, I just
convert the RGB print to grayscale before printing, and it works fine. If I
attempt to print a neutral b&w print in RGB, then color shift sets in. For
warm-toned prints, I use PhotoKit and either sepia or platinum filters. By
using the Epson paper profiles posted on their site in Jan. 04 I get prints
that are an exact match to the monitor (calibrated with SpyderPro). This is
with the soft-proofing feature of Photoshop CS. Best of luck.
Regards,
--Ken Carney
www.kencarney.com > -----Original Message----- > From: robayophoto [mailto:pat@...] > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:54 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] new to this group > > hi im new to this group. > im pulling my hair out trying to get a good toned black and > white print from my epson 2200. > im ready to go back to the darkroom just to print out my > black and white,,, but i want to know where can i get info on > print b&w on the epson,, i want nice warm tone prints... > > please direct where on this site i can find some info. > > > thanks > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits > for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. > Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. > http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 > http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/ucIolB/TM > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------~-> > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or > you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership > preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier > messages to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks > or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be > removed from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of > digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic > posts may be removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group > rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and > decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group > Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE > THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, > INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN > IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH > DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED > ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
2004-05-03 by Don
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Carney" <kcarney1@c...> wrote: > I can tell you what I do, though I don't have a very good technical > explanation. I use Epson UC inks in my 2200. For neutral tone b&w, in. For > warm-toned prints, I use PhotoKit and either sepia or platinum filters. By > using the Epson paper profiles posted on their site in Jan. 04 I get prints > that are an exact match to the monitor (calibrated with SpyderPro). Ken, I always seem to get a major increase in apparent grain or "noise" when I apply the Photokit toners such as platinum. Have you noticed this and if so, how have you been able to combat the issue? Thanks for any info. Ol' Don in Broken Arrow
2004-05-04 by Ken Carney
> I always seem to get a major increase in apparent grain or "noise"
> when I apply the Photokit toners such as platinum. Have you
> noticed this and if so, how have you been able to combat the
> issue? Thanks for any info.
>
> Ol' Don in Broken Arrow
No, so far that is at least one problem I've not had. I'm using XP and
Photoshop 8, working with 16-bit images (actually I guess 14-bit coming from
the Nikon scanner and 12-bit coming from the Canon). I'm not sure 16 vs 8
bit makes that big a difference now, but I use it because "it's there" and I
don't know what's coming down the road re printers. Better I hope. I
flatten the image and use the PK output sharpener and soft-proofing before
printing. What are you using? BTW do you ever go to the Quartz Mountain
workshops? I'm in OKC and last year we had one with Kevin Bubriski that was
excellent.
Regards,
--Ken Carney
www.kencarney.com2004-05-04 by Don
> No, so far that is at least one problem I've not had. I'm using XP and > Photoshop 8, working with 16-bit images (actually I guess 14-bit coming from > the Nikon scanner and 12-bit coming from the Canon). I'm not sure 16 vs 8 > bit makes that big a difference now, but I use it because "it's there" and I > don't know what's coming down the road re printers. Better I hope. I > flatten the image and use the PK output sharpener and soft-proofing before > printing. What are you using? BTW do you ever go to the Quartz Mountain > workshops? I'm in OKC and last year we had one with Kevin Bubriski that was > excellent. > Thanks for the reply Ken. You know, I've just been using 8 bit files even though I have CS.... ;-( Maybe I should rethink that! Just seems that whenever I do a conversion to B&W filters or toning in Photokit that I see an increase in Noise. Looks like you also have the Photokit Sharpener. Does ot work well for you? I've always used masks and done several levels of manual sharpening. I wouldn't mind automating that if possible! Hmmm. I don't know about the Quartz Mountain stuff but that sounds interesting. If you know of a web site or someplace I could get more info please shoot me an e-mail if you get the chance. I've enjoyed looking at your site several times and wondered if you were in OKC. Ol' Don in Broken Arrow